You know what really irks me...

[jackson2422]

Common sense is not boarding a standing room only train knowing you need a seat.

Whatever. I think you missed the point.

 

[livndisney]

Whatever. I think you missed the point.

Looks like one more thing we disagree on. I think you are missing the point many are making.

 

[LilyWDW]

Whatever. I think you missed the point.

Nope, just see it differently then you do. Well I do... I won't speak for the person you quoted, but I agree with them. It irks me when people don't take personal responsibility for themselves and their family members. If one needs a seat, then they need to do what they have to to get a seat. Wait for another bus/monorail, pay for a taxi, or rent a car.

This is why these threads never end well. People will never see eye to eye on these issues. Some see it as a manners issue and some see it as a personal responsibility issue.

 

[livndisney]

Nope, just see it differently then you do. Well I do... I won't speak for the person you quoted, but I agree with them. It irks me when people don't take personal responsibility for themselves and their family members. If one needs a seat, then they need to do what they have to to get a seat. Wait for another bus/monorail, pay for a taxi, or rent a car.

This is why these threads never end well. People will never see eye to eye on these issues. Some see it as a manners issue and some see it as a personal responsibility issue.

How about "having good manners means taking responsibility for yourself/family and using common sense by not boarding a full bus/train when you need a seat"?

 

[LilyWDW]

How about "having good manners means taking responsibility for yourself/family and using common sense by not boarding a full bus/train when you need a seat"?

Hm... very true and I have never thought about it like that. So I appreciate the input! Considering many consider manners as a "do unto others..." type of thing, I can say personally that I could never board a full bus and expect others to stand for me. I would do what was needed to care for myself. To do otherwise would be quite rude.

 

[Princess on the Run]

My 3 sons are the first to offer up their seats because they are still young enough to think of getting to stand on the bus/monorail as a treat.

 

[maxiesmom]

How about "having good manners means taking responsibility for yourself/family and using common sense by not boarding a full bus/train when you need a seat"?

I like this.

 

[monarchsfan16]

The nice thing about the monorail is that more often than not, (other than leaving the parks at closing), if one car is full, another still has a seat. I've NEVER had to stand going TO Epcot, because I always walk to the furthest car.

 

[Salrx95]

While I agree with the premise you should have waited for an open car with seats if you were not prepared to stand, I do think someone should have offered you their seat. My boys will be brought up to have offered you that seat and I am sure my wife would have offered hers as well.

And give me a break on the idea she didn't know what those 6 teenagers situation was. What is theprobability they all had some sort of ailment to prevent them from offering.

Parenting skills are not what they once were.

 

[maxiesmom]

While I agree with the premise you should have waited for an open car with seats if you were not prepared to stand, I do think someone should have offered you their seat. My boys will be brought up to have offered you that seat and I am sure my wife would have offered hers as well.

And give me a break on the idea she didn't know what those 6 teenagers situation was. What is theprobability they all had some sort of ailment to prevent them from offering.

Parenting skills are not what they once were.

None of us know the odds, that is the whole point. I would rather not be the rude, demanding person who gets on a bus and expects someone else will give up their seat. But maybe that is because I have days where I couldn't stand on a moving bus without falling over. I truly get that a person can look totally healthy and yet not be.

I don't like to think it is just me, but if I can't stand or a family member can't stand on a bus, I think it is up to me to take care of it. Not a bunch of strangers. Personal responsibility is a good thing. If I can't spare the time to wait for another bus, or spend the money for a taxi or car, why is it suddenly left up to total strangers to cater to me?

Helping others is a good thing too. However, expecting or demanding they help you is not.

 

[Salrx95]

Helping others is a good thing too. However, expecting or demanding they help you is not.

And that was my point. She should not have expected it and certainly not demanded it but it is a sad statement on society when it was not offered.

 

[maxiesmom]

And that was my point. She should not have expected it and certainly not demanded it but it is a sad statement on society when it was not offered.

But none of us know who could have offered. That is my main point. Getting on a bus and expecting a seat means you are judging those already sitting, and deciding you are more important than they are. Not nice!

 

[DOREEN1779]

The nice thing about the monorail is that more often than not, (other than leaving the parks at closing), if one car is full, another still has a seat. I've NEVER had to stand going TO Epcot, because I always walk to the furthest car.

Shhhh! Don't tell everyone!

 

[dburg30]

I havent read all of the replies but, you cannot compare WDW transportation to normal metro area mass transit. almost always another bus / boat / mono will be along within 15 minutes to run the same route at wdw, so you can EASILY wait for another one that will more then likely have a seat open. I bet, as stated, another car had a seat open. And then the one that will really irk some people is that everyone wants to be treated equally, but then will turn right around and say '"such and such should give up their seat for the lady". I hold door for people (not just ladies) I almost never sit on the bus at WDW during busy times. You will find me back around the back door so I can hop off right away when we arrive. As I know has been said here, and on the other 1000 or so threads on the same topic, if you MUST have a seat, and there isnt one, dont get on the d*mn bus.. wait for the next one! And if that doesnt work and you MUST have a seat, call a cab, or rent a car or drive to WDW.... and yes, these topics never end well!

 

[Hannathy]

And the person's sex should never have anything to do with it!

Now if someone said there was a person who seemed to be having trouble standing and no one other than me (cause if you see it happening and it bothers you then you should offer your seat) offered their seat then we can talk.
But when you bring the sex of the person in, either standing or sitting, I get annoyed. And the person shouldn't have gotten on, personal responsibility and all.

I also consider Disney transportation more of a "ride" situation - than a mass transit one. And a frivolous want vs a need so there are different rules and even manners involved.

 

[goofy4tink]

WHen I ride the monorail, and I 'need' a seat, I look for a car with a seat...simple. I don't board the first car I come to, even if men are seated, expecting them to move for me. I don't expect anyone to give me their seat.
Not every society believes as we do..other cultures don't have the same 'manners' or expectations. My dh had knee surgery...before that, he just wasn't able to stand on any moving vehicle, but he sure did look able bodied.

I know where this thread is going...it always goes down the same road, with the exact same results. Never is there a variation. So..with that in mind.......done.