Yikes! I got yelled at 3 times in the crowds last week!

[robinb]

 

[Cass]

Yield to strollers!

 

[tzuhouse]

Yes, I just read this whole thread. LOL That is some stroller!!! I only have two kids, but that looks like a great stroller!

We don't even have a stroller anymore. My 6 and 3 year old walk everywhere. We rent when we go to places like Sea World and such. I have been in situations where we were so crowded that we were being shoved and getting shoved into the people in front and so on. There are always going to be instances where someone is having a bad day and purposely hits someone with a stroller, but I have to believe that, for the most part, that would be an accident. I've been hit myself and it is very painful. I just let them by so I don't have to worry about getting hit again.

What I find completely amazing is that this thread is now 5 pages long! We have men and women dying for us so we have the freedom to argue with each other about those horrible stroller pushers! I'm so glad there are bigger and better freedoms they are fighting for. This argument is bordering on ridiculous in my opinion.

Have a magical and strollerless day.

Mary

 

[rt2dz]

Actually, I think *you* are still missing the point, at least the point that I made. My point is that two wrongs don't make a right. Certainly, you'd think someone would have the presence of mind to be more careful after accidentally bumping someone else. Obviously this individual, for whatever reason, didn't avoid that the second time either.

However, since:

Are you really surprised that people are calling you out for your behavior? I'm sure I'd have been pretty irritated if someone hit my legs as well; I just don't agree that a dirty look - especially for a first offense! - and most definitely, a personal confrontation, was necessarily the best reaction.


Okay... you're right, but since you already admitted to giving her a dirty look, I'm assuming that you didn't have a courteous, "Could you please give me a little more space?" tone in your voice.


In all fairness, what makes you think that she'd be inclined to "nicely apologize to you" after the second hit, especially after you gave her a dirty look peviously?

Still just my opinion, but I think I'd tend to get out of the way of the aggressive stroller drivers - as well as the "back off" yellers and dirty look throwers - rather than engage in a personal confrontation.

To each their own!

Thank You!!! That is exactly the point(s) I've been trying to make. Yeck, if I accidentally hit someone with a stroller and they turned and gave me a dirty look, depending on the look, my apology could be cut off. I might be too scared to. Or suddenly just feel a heck of a lot less apologetic. Probably a little of both. "yelling" BACK OFF! and asking someone for a little more room are two very different things. I try not to judge people, I don't know what is going on. Perhaps someone is sick or was just pushed from behind themselves. Either way, the point is to be polite under pressure. Next time, I'd just step to the side and say "after you".

 

[rt2dz]

Stroller pushers who don't apologize after hitting someone should be glad that they don't get a lot worse than being told to back off. Where I live assault is punishable with legal action.

Good luck getting that one to court.

Accidents do happen, but if someone is doing it repeatedly and purposely to keep someone from getting in front of them or to get through the crowds quicker, then that's just pathetic, careless, and stupid.

When do you call an accident of that nature "repeatedly". I can see twice under given circumstances. I highly doubt it was an intentional threat on the stroller pushers part. Do you really? And NO ONE, not even ducklite who didn't give the poor stroller pusher a chance, knows if it was to push the crowd out of the way or something else. I'm not defending people who are thoughless or even careless. I was just floored that someone could take such a innocent thing, OK, possible innocent thing, and be that horrible about it, especially at DISNEY!

 

[rt2dz]

An assault is:
(a) An unlawful attempt, coupled with apparent ability, to commit a violent injury on the person of another; or
(b) An intentional, unlawful threat by word or act to do violence to the person of another, coupled with an apparent ability to do so, and doing some act which creates a well-founded fear in such other person that such violence
is imminent.

Because she didn't apologize after the first hit, the second seemed quite intentional. Therefore assault is quite applicable.

I stand by the fact that there are written posted policies, and anyone who ignores them either doesn't have the mental capacity to understand them, or is simply inconsiderant at best and ignorant at worst.

Anne

The Key words here are "Unlawful attempt", "intentional", "violence"

A stroller bump isn't violence even if it does possibly cause harm. And I can say with almost total certainty that even if that person is rude and careless, I'm sure it wasn't intentional.

And I whole heartly agree that anyone who can't understand things might not have mental capacity and is simply inconsiderate at best and probably ignorant.

Do you really want to know what assault is? Last night my cousin was driving his motercycle down the freeway, 100% legally. Someone switched lanes while he was in it. Dragged with 78 miles without stopping. People were chasing the driver down and he was trying to get my cousin (who never even lost conscienceness) off his car and get away. My cousin had his right leg amputated. May loose his left leg and possibly his right arm. THAT is assualt. THAT is violence. THAT was intentional. And, no the other driver wasn't even drunk. I say get over the stroller bump, past and future. And be thankful you get to work again, won't loose your house, aren't forced to spend the next 1-2 years in a hospital, and have life end in every other way you know it.

 

[Tinkerbellmom33]

This one went really far! It's very entertaining!! "Officer" Lites getting a little hot under the collar! You go girls!

 

[DebIreland]

Last night my cousin was driving his motercycle down the freeway, 100% legally. Someone switched lanes while he was in it. Dragged with 78 miles without stopping. People were chasing the driver down and he was trying to get my cousin (who never even lost conscienceness) off his car and get away. My cousin had his right leg amputated. May loose his left leg and possibly his right arm. THAT is assualt.

That is so awful. That driver is a monster. I cannot imagine the type of mind it would take to do something like that. I'm so sorry for your cousin. It must be very upsetting for you and your family. What a truly horrific ordeal. *Hugs and prayers for you and yours.*

 

[kenleemela]

Maybe they should just put cow catchers on the front of the stroller. That when plowing through the crowds people will just get bumped off to the side

oh my; too, too funny Thanks for the chuckle.

This topic is definately touching some nerves.

 

[Jan]

with the exception of the motorcycle "accident" that is. that is nothing but sad.

i am in love with this thread. this is a ton more entertaining than: "will the dining plan allow a dole whip for a snack"

granted, i think some of you are nuts - especially d-lite. wow! you have a low threshhold for charging crimes. that is what i do for a living (prosecutor) and i hope i never charge a case that lame. maybe i could slap an "inattentive driving" on the negligent stroller driver. of course, you are not claiming negligence - you think there is a rogue stroller gang out there intent on attacking your ankles. you are either a civil attorney or one of those people who learned law on the internet so they could fight their traffic tickets.

my favorite has been the photos/graphics. i about peed my pants. wish i was computer savvy enough to do that!!

thank you all for the entertainment. some of you i would love to "run into" figuratively at disney, and some of you i would love to "run into" literally.

 

[kenleemela]

In reply to Jan; a few pages back!

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!

Haven't laughed that hard in a while; i had to read it to my husband We both very much enjoyed your comments.

We will be there in July with two strollers and two girls, also have a clumsy 5 year old (she trips over air)! Beware

 

[Judge Judy]

Madam, did you think that you were going to a Tea party? You went to Disney World where there are children. This means there will be strollers.

You're wasting my valuable time. This case is dismissed.

Office Byrd, get them out of my courtroom.

 

[Jan]

i LOVE judge judy. thank you so much for weighing in on this!!

 

[Lizzybee]

The only stroller complaint I have from Spring Break was some extremely rude person took their child out of a rented stroller and left it RIGHT in the MIDDLE of the walk way when everyone was leaving the park after Illuminations. They didn't just leave it off to one side, they didn't leave it near a fence, they walked away and left it smack dab in the middle of the crowded walk way. It was probably the rudest thing I saw at Disney.

 

[Evil Queen]

You are correct. Unless, the person did an unsafe lane change/cut you off in traffic, ran a stop sign/stoplight, had rear lights off/not working, or slammed on their brakes without a reason. The same reason *most* stroller pushers hit other walkers. And then, do you get out of your car and start screaming at the other driver like some kind of mad dog or do you just calmly check to make sure everyone is OK, exchange insuriance info, and get on with life?

I believe most stroller pushers do the best they can, despite what some people may think. Accidents happen. And when someone is sorry and apologizes, does screaming help? When does being rude to anyone ever help in any situation?

Never mentioned screaming. But if you are in the wrong, you are in the wrong driving a car or a stroller. I was making a comparision.

Orginal Op said "few" more than time one, is not an accident. I won't give my "opinion" on this (let's save the nasty posts).

I have never used a stroller in WDW (nor would I make the rest of the public deal with it-but hey that's just me), and if you read MY original post, I stated I saw both sides.

 

[Stitch Inside]

with the exception of the motorcycle "accident" that is. that is nothing but sad.

i am in love with this thread. this is a ton more entertaining than: "will the dining plan allow a dole whip for a snack"

granted, i think some of you are nuts - especially d-lite. wow! you have a low threshhold for charging crimes. that is what i do for a living (prosecutor) and i hope i never charge a case that lame. maybe i could slap an "inattentive driving" on the negligent stroller driver. of course, you are not claiming negligence - you think there is a rogue stroller gang out there intent on attacking your ankles. you are either a civil attorney or one of those people who learned law on the internet so they could fight their traffic tickets.

my favorite has been the photos/graphics. i about peed my pants. wish i was computer savvy enough to do that!!

thank you all for the entertainment. some of you i would love to "run into" figuratively at disney, and some of you i would love to "run into" literally.

You hit the nail right on the head.
BTW y'all are at Disney! Slow down, take it in. You don't have to do it all to enjoy it.
Also, I'd like to know how many times "Officer" Lite would let the stroller hit her before she either got out of the way, or done something else (it sounded like she wanted to retaliate). She seemed as determined to keep her spot in the slow-moving mass of people as the "stroller assaulter" was determined to get beyond her. I'm wondering if she didn't step in front of the stroller assaulter. Would this make the crime justifiable?

 

[twinmomplus2new]

All I can say is Yikes.... Isn't there a topic that is less likely to draw blood?


Lets see pool hopping from a value to a deluxe with my ten kids?

Buying refillable mugs from 1992 on EBay?

Kids in Hot tubs?


And the mother of all Disboards debates DVC Room occupancy as it relates to the Fall of china....

 

[Nik's Mom]

The Key words here are "Unlawful attempt", "intentional", "violence"

A stroller bump isn't violence even if it does possibly cause harm. And I can say with almost total certainty that even if that person is rude and careless, I'm sure it wasn't intentional.

And I whole heartly agree that anyone who can't understand things might not have mental capacity and is simply inconsiderate at best and probably ignorant.

Do you really want to know what assault is? Last night my cousin was driving his motercycle down the freeway, 100% legally. Someone switched lanes while he was in it. Dragged with 78 miles without stopping. People were chasing the driver down and he was trying to get my cousin (who never even lost conscienceness) off his car and get away. My cousin had his right leg amputated. May loose his left leg and possibly his right arm. THAT is assualt. THAT is violence. THAT was intentional. And, no the other driver wasn't even drunk. I say get over the stroller bump, past and future. And be thankful you get to work again, won't loose your house, aren't forced to spend the next 1-2 years in a hospital, and have life end in every other way you know it.

My prayers are with your cousin!

Here's what I want to say, I feel pitty for the person who feels the need to scream at someone because they accidently bumped them. Their life must be filled with such anger for something like that to bother them. Life is short, don't let the little things bother you. There are people less fortunate, people struggling with cancer, etc. Things could be much worse than being bumped into at WDW.
I'm not saying that if someone rammed you and knocked you down is o.k, because it is not. But a simple little bump is probably just an accident.

 

[KATIESMOMMY]

OK- now you all really have me scared! We are going on our 1st trip this Dec and I will have DD in a stroller- she will be 20 months then. I recently took our DD to an auction and it was wall to wall people and I have to admit that I think I may have bumped 2 people on accident with the stroller. No one yelled at me and I apologized when it happened, but now I am wondering if taking her at this young age with her being in a stroller is bad idea? I would not take very well to someone yelling at me and upsetting my DD that way. I would probably tell them that maybe they need a nappy and offer them the stroller for one?? Maybe offer them a snacky or offer to kiss the boo boo?? Either way I probably need to get an attorney on retainer now in case I am charged with assault!! Think they serve them DOle whip thingies at the Mickey lockup??

 

[aubriee]

When we were at WDW in January we were bumped several times with strollers and as it was usually when everyone was trying to leave the park, I knew it was an accident and didn't think much of it. Don't get me wrong. I didn't appreciate it and it hurt, but I knew it was an accident. However the day we were at AK we were standing where the parade started and as the parade ended had to follow the parade out. It was wall to wall people, all moving slowly because of the parade in front of us. This lady decided to use her stroller to ram her way through. Unfortunately we were in the way and had no where to go. After she bumped me VERY hard for the third time I did turn and glare at her and she glared right back without ever apologizing. When she almost knocked my GD down, I turned and told her if she bumped one of us again I would take the stroller and throw it over the bridge we were on at the time. She then said 'well, get out of my way'. I asked her where she wanted us to go since the bridge was packed solid. Anyway after we finally got to a place where we could move to the side we let her past. She speeded up so fast that she knocked a little boy down, making him get a very nasty scrape on his leg and leaving him crying. Several of us stopped to help him, but the lady in the stroller just glared at him and kept moving.

There was no way any of us could have avoided being hit by this lady and she was definitely doing it intentionally and didn't even try to hide it. I believe this is the difference. The OP of this thread was like the people who had been bumping us all week. They were accidents. It's people like the lady in AK that gives stroller pushers a bad name.