Yes another TiW vs DP question or two

Only if you don't ever tip
If you do, it's still 20% off
Correct, if your bill is $100 without the 20% discount you would pay a 6.5% tax which makes your bill $106.50 then you would add the 18% tip which would be $125.67. With the discount your $100 bill is now $80. Now when you add the 6.5% your bill is $85.20 and the 18% tip will bring your bill to $97.35. That's a savings of $28.32.
 
Cheshire Figment RIP always posted this example regarding the TIW savings.
Here is a working example, using $100.00 as the original bill to make the math show up easily. Note this is for Table Service. At Counter Service there is no gratuity added.

100.00 - Original Menu Amount
*20.00 - Discount
*80.00 - Subtotal
*18.00 - Gratuity Added based on $100
**5.20 - Sales Tax on $80
103.20 - Final amount charged, takes into consideration discount, gratuity and tax.

Without TiW Discount (and still figuring 18% Gratuity)

100.00 - Original Menu Amount
*18.00 - Gratuity
**6.50 - Sales Tax on $100
124.50 - Total

$21.30 - Savings using TiW Card.

It is much more than a 2% discount.
Does Disney figure tax and tip differently? Every place I've ever eaten at in every state or country I've ever been to I always figure my tip based on the total bill after tax has been added so the $100 bill plus the 6.5% tax would come to $106.50 and I'd figure the tip based on that, not on the original $100 tab.
 
Cant speak to your experience especially internationally as I dont leave the US but Ive never been to a restaurant domestically in the 30+ states Ive visited that tipped based on added tax.
 
Weird, that's how I've always done it but then I've never really been to a restaurant that automatically adds the tip. They bring me the bill with the tax added and then I'd either tip 20% or 18% or double the tax depending on where I am and how good the service was.
 

We go to several restaurants that list suggested tip amounts at the bottom of the register receipts - they usually list how much it would be for 15%, 18% and 20%. It is always based on the pre-tax amount. If you tip on the final amount with tax added you're possibly (accidentally) over tipping (especially if you're thinking you're leaving 20%).
 
We go to several restaurants that list suggested tip amounts at the bottom of the register receipts - they usually list how much it would be for 15%, 18% and 20%. It is always based on the pre-tax amount. If you tip on the final amount with tax added you're possibly (accidentally) over tipping (especially if you're thinking you're leaving 20%).
Maybe it's a NYC thing. Unless we eat at a chain restaurant, which is rare, our bills never have suggested tip amounts listed on them. I don't mind over tipping though, we go to a few of the same restaurants and know the wait staff so they must think we are great customers. In the end, the difference between pre and post tax tipping isn't that much so I'm OK with it.
 
Maybe it's a NYC thing. Unless we eat at a chain restaurant, which is rare, our bills never have suggested tip amounts listed on them. I don't mind over tipping though, we go to a few of the same restaurants and know the wait staff so they must think we are great customers. In the end, the difference between pre and post tax tipping isn't that much so I'm OK with it.

Maybe it's a chain thing? My son and I just ate at the Hard Rock Cafe in Washington, DC last week and it was on that check and I recently ate at a Bennigan's in MD and it was on that too. I see it more and more often. In both cases the suggested amount was based on the pre-tax amount. And no, for one individual it's not a significant amount on say a $25 check - but it would be a couple of dollars for say a party of 6 so it COULD add up depending on the total tab and how big it is....
 
Maybe it's a chain thing? My son and I just ate at the Hard Rock Cafe in Washington, DC last week and it was on that check and I recently ate at a Bennigan's in MD and it was on that too. I see it more and more often. In both cases the suggested amount was based on the pre-tax amount. And no, for one individual it's not a significant amount on say a $25 check - but it would be a couple of dollars for say a party of 6 so it COULD add up depending on the total tab....
True, but when we go out locally, the tabs rarely go over $150 for the 3 of us so it's only a difference of $2-$3. Obviously when you start getting into higher tabs, the difference will be greater. I'm glad I found this out before we went down there. I was comparing the cost of the DDP to OOP and OOP was less expensive for the way we eat, now it will cost us even less. I may even be able to tip my usual 20% now that I have some wiggle room.
 
True, but when we go out locally, the tabs rarely go over $150 for the 3 of us so it's only a difference of $2-$3. Obviously when you start getting into higher tabs, the difference will be greater. I'm glad I found this out before we went down there. I was comparing the cost of the DDP to OOP and OOP was less expensive for the way we eat, now it will cost us even less. I may even be able to tip my usual 20% now that I have some wiggle room.

Call me tight (or maybe poor is more like it) but even $3 x 7 TS meals a week = $21. That's at least worth a couple of cocktails!!! :rotfl:
 
Call me tight (or maybe poor is more like it) but even $3 x 7 TS meals a week = $21. That's at least worth a couple of cocktails!!! :rotfl:
Oh, absolutely, at home here it doesn't mean much because we don't eat out very often but in Disney with dinners possibly running as much as $250 (we likes our cocktails! :drinking1) it can make a HUGE difference.
 
Nope you don't include tax in the total for tipping.

Disney started adding suggested tip amounts to the receipts after the dining plan was altered to exclude tip. I'm guessing they had a lot of persons who didn't leave a tip after that. (I remember a story about someone leaving a receipt on which they had written "We can't afford a tip" but suggested amounts wouldn't have helped with that.)
 
Weird, that's how I've always done it but then I've never really been to a restaurant that automatically adds the tip. They bring me the bill with the tax added and then I'd either tip 20% or 18% or double the tax depending on where I am and how good the service was.

By doubling the tax, you're not tipping on the tax.

For instance, in a place like Seattle where sales tax is pretty much 10%, doubling the tax means you're giving about 20% on the not-taxed cost.


Tips aren't given on the taxed part. Tipping on the tax isn't standard.
 


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