Y&R take 3 - SPOILERS inside

from soapcentral.com

Guiding Light star Tom Pelphrey will be joining the cast of As the World Turns later this year. The actor's Springfield alter ego won't be making the trip with him: Pelphrey will tackle a newly created role. Pelphrey is a two-time Daytime Emmy winner.


Two-time Emmy winner Tom Pelphrey (Jonathan Randall, Guiding Light) will be joining the cast of As the World Turns this fall in a newly created role. The signing will keep the much-sought-after actor in the CBS stable and, more notably, on a Procter & Gamble-produced soap. Both As the World Turns and Guiding Light are produced by TeleNext Media, Inc., the production arm of the Procter & Gamble company.


Last year, Pelphrey was reportedly being considered for the role of Dante on ABC's General Hospital. News that the actor was considering a relocation to the West Coast bolstered claims that he'd be taking on the role. In a seemingly about-face move, Pelphrey subsequently revealed that joining General Hospital wasn't in the cards for him.


An As the World Turns spokesperson has confirmed that Pelphrey is joining the show in the role of "Mick." No further information was made available on the new character. Pelphrey first discussed his new gig with We Love Soaps at this year's Daytime Emmys.


Pelphrey is a two-time Daytime Emmy winner, winning Outstanding Younger Actor honors in 2006 and 2008.


Pelphrey made his daytime debut as Guiding Light's Jonathan in September 2004. He remained with the show on a full-time basis through August 2007. Since that time, Pelphrey has returned for several guest appearances. Pelphrey's most recent return began in August as part of the show's farewell.


And for anyone else who watches ATWT, Simon, Mike, and Ben :lovestruc will all be back in November!
 
Not Jilll with Billy... :eek: She's too mean for him.... but then again, not Glo either... I like her almost as much as Phyllis!:rolleyes1 Come to think about it, I can't think of anyone that would be "just right" for him, unless it was someone like Lauren. Not that I want her split up from Michael, but just someone like her.

If they don't change the story lines on this show soon, they will have to start the stupid "no set" way that Guiding Light went.... then further own downhill from there!!! :sad2:
 
I'm totally into Y&R now though- not so much ATWT. But if Jonathan is on......... he is such a great actor!

Who else would we like to see on Y&R? I just love Kim Zimmer.... who could she be?
 

I would just like to SLAP Victoria. PERIOD. :furious:


I just watched Friday’s episode!! ...and Victoria—excuse me!!…did I hear her response to Ashley’s delivery correctly??!! …cause I heard 2 key phrases with respect to a woman who carried her father's child and had a difficult pregnancy!! “…bad timing…” and “…where is she?...” What the heck?

Oh, and thank goodness Phyllis is back! I know, I know…. she’s not the warmest or fuzziest…but in the face of WitchyWoman-AlwaysTheVictimVictoria, her indecisive brother WoeIsMeNick, and NotMyFault-Im Having a Rough Time Sharon, her responses are so on the money!! There are times I find myself feeling exactly the same thing that Phyllis says! Friday’s episode was a perfect example! Phyllis expresses what a difficult decision Tracy has, and how she dsnt know if she could make that choice. Victoria’s response is essentially "If you cant be a heartless vulture and support my father, get out!!” (What the heck?)...but Phyllis lets her know she’s not goin' anywhere!! Yaay Phyllis!! Don’t get me wrong, she’s not the one I’d cozy up to at the next PTA meeting, but with these folks, she’s the only one who’s got it right! Whoever is writing for her, or allowing her to “be Phyllis” is doing a great job. As far as Im concerned, she’s one of the only characters who is even close to being realistic!

So 2 things….
1. The last 2weeks has only been 2days in Y&R-land, right? …’’cause where’s Patty? …and why is no one there concerned abt whether or not she's caught?
2. I’m volunteering to deliver the Emmy to Beth Maitland!! :worship: I was walking it over to Stacy Haiduk, but Beth came along and knocked her outta the running!
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I just watched Friday’s episode!! ...and Victoria—excuse me!!…did I hear her response to Ashley’s delivery correctly??!! …cause I heard 2 key phrases with respect to a woman who carried her father's child and had a difficult pregnancy!! “…bad timing…” and “…where is she?...” What the heck?

Oh, and thank goodness Phyllis is back! I know, I know…. she’s not the warmest or fuzziest…but in the face of WitchyWoman-AlwaysTheVictimVictoria, her indecisive brother WoeIsMeNick, and NotMyFault-Im Having a Rough Time Sharon, her responses are so on the money!! There are times I find myself feeling exactly the same thing that Phyllis says! Friday’s episode was a perfect example! Phyllis expresses what a difficult decision Tracy has, and how she dsnt know if she could make that choice. Victoria’s response is essentially "If you cant be a heartless vulture and support my father, get out!!” (What the heck?)...but Phyllis lets her know she’s not goin' anywhere!! Yaay Phyllis!! Don’t get me wrong, she’s not the one I’d cozy up to at the next PTA meeting, but with these folks, she’s the only one who’s got it right! Whoever is writing for her, or allowing her to “be Phyllis” is doing a great job. As far as Im concerned, she’s one of the only characters who is even close to being realistic!

So 2 things….
1. The last 2weeks has only been 2days in Y&R-land, right? …’’cause where’s Patty? …and why is no one there concerned abt whether or not she's caught?
2. I’m volunteering to deliver the Emmy to Beth Maitland!! :worship: I was walking it over to Stacy Haiduk, but Beth came along and knocked her outta the running!
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I know what you mean! Beth is doing a great job- can't believe they ever let her go!
 
Ron Raines has been rumored to have signed on with Y&R as the billionaire Tucker today! The former Gu iding Lightactor will be involved with Jill at Chancellor Industries as a possible love interest. Jack Abbott and Jabot may be in danger as Tucker arrives with an agenda to take over control of Jabot from Newman Enterprises as Jack is made ceo of Newman! Could Tucker also have information on Katherine's missing daughter? Now that Braeden is on one of his vacation/ negotiations will Nikki fall for the dynamic man named Tucker.


This is great!! ...and Ron Raines is fantastic! I would love to see Jill with a new love interest, especially a billionaire. With her new approach to life and appreciating it (remember her birthday dinner conversation with the family?), a kinder, gentler Jill should become uber-rich and go back to her old ways. Jill could become the new Victor! (my demonic laugh can be heard in the background!!)

 
ok i'm officially in the "oh is it 6pm already, oh darn i missed Y&R oh who cares" category


because that's exactly what happened on friday. show runs from 4.30 - 5.30 and it became a passing thought sometime after 6pm

i'm so tired of the crappy storylines. i can catch it again at 12.30 today if i'm bored but with a 4 year old coming home from school, lunch, practicing letters and numbers i dont think i'll have the time for whinny, unbelievable and down right sexist storylines. ohhhhh the shame.
 
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i'm so tired of the crappy storylines. i can catch it again at 12.30 today if i'm bored but with a 4 year old coming home from school, lunch, practicing letters and numbers i dont think i'll have the time for whinny, unbelievable and down right sexist storylines. ohhhhh the shame.

You're my hero!...I wish I had the strength, but I just cant stop watching! You've got a better distraction anyway! 4year olds are such great people!! They feel like they're grown up so they become such wonderful companions!! ...a much better afternoon you're in for! :flower3:
 
My name is Donna......It's been one TV day since I last watched.

I didn't watch Friday and after reading the last few posts, I'm glad I didn't.

I'll just keep "watching" here. Thanks everyone!
 
by Michael Logan October 05, 2009 01:27 PM EST

Is no one safe in Soapland? Emmy winner Eric Braeden of CBS's The Young and the Restless-the No. 1 star on daytime's No. 1 serial-is out of a job due to a nasty salary dispute with the show's owner, Sony. That's the same corporation that ousted suds superstars Deidre Hall and Drake Hogestyn from Days of Our Lives last year. Braeden, who plays bad-*** billionaire Victor Newman, says his current three-year deal wasn't due to elapse until November 2010. But Sony took advantage of a sneaky, yet standard, clause in soap contracts that leaves a star's salary prone to renegotiation every 26 weeks. When Sony demanded that Braeden take a major pay cut, the actor chose to walk. He taped what could well be his final scenes as Victor on September 23 and they will air November 2. (Both CBS and Sony declined to comment.) Braeden's longtime screen partner Melody Thomas Scott (Nikki) had similar contract troubles earlier this year and was written off the show for two months. Now she's back. Will there be a similar turnaround for Braeden? Or has Genoa City seen the last of this blisteringly brilliant, insanely popular actor? In an exclusive interview with TV Guide Magazine, Braeden gives us the lowdown.

I only have two words for this situation: Utter insanity. Y&R without Victor Newman ain't Y&R. Somebody's gotta come to their senses here. Your rep tells me you made a counter offer which has so far gone ignored.
That is correct.

So how would you characterize the situation then? You've hit a dead end? Or is there still hope?
It is not a fait accompli but I am seriously thinking about various other career options. As you know, I came to Y&R from film, from nighttime television, from theatre. It's not that one isn't willing to acquiesce to [a lesser salary], but it is the way in which I was approached. I was dealt with in a cold, deeply insulting and unconscionable manner and I'm a defiant *******. I feel a great loyalty to the character and to the show, but that loyalty is not reciprocated. The daytime business has become cutthroat.

You've stayed true to Y&R since the day you arrived. Unlike many other actors in daytime, you never quit to go pursue other roles.
I've never left and I've been on the show for nearly 30 years now. What the soap medium has given me is a chance to play a huge scale of emotions that one rarely has a chance to play in primetime or film, and I have appreciated that enormously. But, as it turns out, the contracts you sign are not worth the paper they're written on thanks to this ridiculous clause where they have a right to change anything or let you go every 26 weeks. It's a joke. Our union ought to be ashamed of itself for having [allowed] this. And for the show to actually invoke that clause after one has served loyally and lovingly for 30 years is unconscionably ungracious.

Word is, the pay cut they want you to take is huge.
It's like being hit with a sledgehammer. What is sad is that they are playing with-and easily disregarding-the contributions made by a lot of the actors who have been on the show for a very long time, and it seemingly makes no difference to them. As a result, there is an enormous feeling of emotional upheaval on the set. And that was the intention, of course. It's all about intimidation. It's all about leaking things to the internet before I even knew I was going to [be asked to] renegotiate. I had no idea! There are obviously leaks coming from the inside, all there to bludgeon you, to intimidate you.

Who are you dealing with at Sony? Who's wielding that sledgehammer?
I don't want to mention names. I'm dealing with some lawyer.

Where does CBS fit into this equation? Why isn't Barbara Bloom, the head of CBS Daytime, doing something to stop it? Where's Les Moonves?
I don't know. I assume all this will have to be played out first [with Sony]. Let me put it this way, I've always had a great respect for Les Moonves, and I think it's mutual. I don't know who has what say and what power, but I would assume CBS has considerable power. And none of this, as I said, is a fait accompli. It's not that I'm not cognizant of these difficult economic times. One has to be stupid not to be aware. I'm also aware of certain decreases in the [Y&R] license fee that took place recently, but now it's sledgehammer time, you know? [And that's wrong] when you put your *** on the line for this show for 30 years, and have done as much publicity as I have. I still sell more [daytime] magazines than anyone in this medium, as you know. And I am very proud of that association.

This is not the first pay cut you've taken at Y&R, correct?
I want to remind you that I was the first one who suggested a cut and led by example. That was two years ago when my current contract went into effect. I said I'd agree to lower my salary, if they did it to everyone else.

Could the tough economy just be a cop-out-an excuse for Sony to cry poor? Let's face it, Y&R is still the No. 1 daytime show. The most recent ratings [September 21-25] show that the program is drawing 5.3 million viewers. Those are still good numbers.
It's a damn good show, and [executive producer/head writer] Maria Bell has done a very, very, very good job. I cannot say enough about that. As far as I am concerned, she has revived Y&R. The actors are enormously disciplined and we all work under very difficult circumstances now. Are we all friends? No. Are we family? No. That "family" thing is bull----. But do I respect t he actors I work with? You bet. [Due to budget cutbacks] we now crank out this show with practically no rehearsal. It's become so impersonalized, so cold. What we do in one day is unheard of anywhere else in the business. We shoot between 80 and 100 pages per day-I myself did 62 pages on the day I said my goodbyes. Very emotionally wrenching stuff. I'm dead serious-62 pages! Take any movie star or primetime star and put them on a daytime soap and they would s--t their pants.

Are you soap folks maybe in shock? A bit spoiled? Show biz is brutal, yet those in daytime have always worked in a nice, comfortable, cushy cocoon…until now.
It's not that it wasn't sometimes brutal under [Y&R's late creator/executive producer] Bill Bell. Let's not have illusions about that. It was always tough. He was larger than life. He was the boss. But he was also a man you could always go to and deal with directly. Bill Bell worked his *** off to create this extraordinary legacy. Now we're just a cog in an inchoate corporation. You honestly don't know who's who and who does what any more.

To clarify, this clause in the contract is perfectly legal. So you actors agree to it assuming, hoping, trusting that Sony will operate out of loyalty and decency and not invoke it?
What you assume is that you will be talked to in a civilized way. My God, after 30 years. the perfunctory manner with which one is dealt with! I know that other actors were very close to leaving for the same reasons, and it's not that we are unreasonable.

What seems to be missing in this issue is the star factor. Some actors are worth more than others and should be paid accordingly- and if the lesser-paid actors don't like it, too bad. That's the way it works in primetime, in movies, on Broadway. Why is there a new set of rules in soaps? Why is everyone suddenly equal and dispensable?
There is an attempt in daytime to level the playing field to the point where it doesn't make any difference if you've been on the show for one year or 30 years. You are treated the same.

What about loyalty to the viewer? It's a slap in the face to any longtime fan of Y&R to suddenly be told that the show you've supported for decades will no longer pay for the stars you love.
Of course. It's hypocritical.

Isn't it also suicidal? Where the good business sense in this?
You have to ask yourself who's in charge, and what other shows are they in charge of that have gone down the drain.

Do these people want out of the soap game? Is this just one long, slow, drawn-out sayonara?
That is obviously a question that is worth asking, and I'm not going to stick around to find out.

You can't sustain a show on these younger, cheaper newbies. Victor Newman is the hub of Y&R from which all things emanate. Who's supposed to fill that gap? Certainly not this guy who's been playing Victor's son, Adam. This show needs a powerful, ***-kicking son-of-a-***** and no one plays that part like you.
I appreciate what you are saying but that is for you to say it. I won't comment. But I will tell you this: The overall problem in daytime, and with television in general, is this obsession with chasing the young demographic. The supposed power of the young demo is one of the biggest myths in this business. Billions have been misspent by corporations in kowtowing to the young when the money-the true financial power-lies is in the hands of older people. When I go out for public appearances, the people who come to see me span all ages-from 10 years old to 80 and 90. There is an enormous generational following for our show.

How is Victor written out after his heart transplant? He's been painted into such a dark and irredeemable place. Was this done to scare you?
Victor and Nikki go to Europe somewhere, Belgium or whatever, to some rehabilitation clinic. When I watch the show I realize-boy, oh boy-this exit was all calculated! They have now painted Victor Newman so black. He's now killed this Colleen girl. He is responsible for the demise of everything. What he did do is hire that girl [Patty] and give her plastic surgery to get even with Jack Abbott. They've totally forgotten that Adam was gaslighting Ashley-now Victor's held responsible for it. Jack Abbott is totally relieved of any kind of responsibility. It's all Victor! They have forgotten all the backstory in order to make a rush to judgment. What they wanted to do-I'm thoroughly convinced of it-is make Victor look so bad to the public that the public will say, "Let him die." So, yes, this is orchestrated and it happened at a very propitious time when my 26-week cycle was up. This is totally calculated from the top. It infuriates me, the conscious intention behind it. It's a very dramatic story, a very good story, but it certainly has the potential for a permanent departure.

The only upside to having no happy ending here is that it would be fascinating to watch what happens to your career when you're no longer tied to a show, when you're a free agent. If anybody should be playing the villain in a Bond movie, it's you. Thoughts on the future?
I still feel full of piss and vinegar. We shall see that happens. It's been a wonderful ride, and I'm very grateful to have played this role for as long as I have. Whatever happens with me [at Y&R], they should kneel before Maria Bell. We all feel that-all of us actors. Thank God for that woman. She is worth her weight in gold.
 
•Billy and Jack make arrangements for Colleen's funeral. Chloe can understand why Billy is upset over Colleen's heart going to Victor.
•Chance learns from Chloe that her and Billy's divorce has not been finalized
•Sharon is back to living at the AC, Noah and Jack learn about her loss and comfort her. Sharon learns Ashley named "her" baby Faith. The conversation shifts to Colleen, and the pain the family must be going through. Later, Sharon tells Noah that Jack was not the father of her child, Nick was
•Nick meets the child he think is his half sister, he notices similarities in her that he saw in Noah when he was first born.
•Phyllis asks Jack about Sharon and asks him why he never told her the truth. Jack says it was because of Summer. Phyllis now realizes why Sharon lied.

Next - Chloe is happy to be herself with Chance; Phyllis visits Sharon
 
I cried today when they played the theme at the end of the show- that's all I'm saying..............
 
by Michael Logan October 05, 2009 01:27 PM EST

This was very interesting, HonnyDipp. EB mentions at least twice that it's not a done deal, implying that perhaps he might not leave the show or he might return after more negotiations. He did make it seem like Sony planned this all along; doesn't seem like a very smart business move for Sony.
 
Well if Victor goes..so goes the show. For awhile it will be fine but no one can take the place of Victor. Just like no one can replace Drew.

Wonder how long it will drag out before the Baby is figured out. Wonder if Ashley will start to remember that she lost the baby way back when and if so than hos baby is this?

Or Phyllis will be the one to start being suspicious and get a DNA test done. Is so will she keep it to herself because she is worried that Nick will get close to Sharon again...or will she save the day.

The last scene of the show today with everyone standing there with the theme song of the show playing reminded me of the way the show use to be....good.

In that article Braeden said that they all love the writers writting :confused3OOOOOOKay than. Maybe he has been watching something different than what we have been :lmao:
 
i know you guys are pretty much of one thought that if victor goes so does the show but for me i'd love to see a serious change up.

get rid of victor - i've never liked him. jill has been redeemed so far (has her issues but hell who doesn't)

get rid of that whinnier sharron

bring in some strong female character - not itchy ones but strong ones - younger kay's

smart stable business women (bring in Brooke Shields and those girls from her show - i liked it but it got cancelled)

get new writers and some new sets and bob's your uncle i'll watch again.

they don't have to clean out more then about 1/4 of the crappy cast and bring in good actors and storylines
 
i know you guys are pretty much of one thought that if victor goes so does the show but for me i'd love to see a serious change up.

get rid of victor - i've never liked him. jill has been redeemed so far (has her issues but hell who doesn't)

get rid of that whinnier sharron

bring in some strong female character - not itchy ones but strong ones - younger kay's

smart stable business women (bring in Brooke Shields and those girls from her show - i liked it but it got cancelled)

get new writers and some new sets and bob's your uncle i'll watch again.

they don't have to clean out more then about 1/4 of the crappy cast and bring in good actors and storylines


I'm another one who wouldn't miss Victor. Especially with Ron Raines coming on board.
 
I cried today when they played the theme at the end of the show- that's all I'm saying..............

Me too...what a sad Y&R today. :sad1: I will say that baby playing Ashley's DD is beautiful. So much sadness going on in AND around Y&R. Between the actors and the s/l's. :sad1:






I would like to know when a actor is reduced to re-occurring status like say Nikki or Heather or Lauren or Paul....how do these people IRL pay their bills? Like Rafe today, we haven't seen him in weeks???
 












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