WWYD - Work Issue

[Mickey's Minion]

It will if it since it was discussed during the itnerview. I asked him, is cleaning bathrooms a job requirment/duty I will have to do. He said NO. Cleaning bathrooms was not a job dutie.

Job duties are never static from the day you interview.

As people come and go in companies, jobs change to meet the needs of the company. This happens from the janitor to the president of any company. My husband is an executive with a fortune 500 company. As layoffs and attrition happen, his job changes as others absorb those duties. As long as the new duties aren't life threatening, it is all part of being a team player. You either do your job, new duties and all, or you if you don't like it, you are free to find a new job. That is the way it works in the working world of grownups.

If this is a task that is being asked of all employees, all their job descriptions are changing. You won't have a leg to stand on with the unemployment board.

Sorry, but under $10 an hour, part time employees are abundant. And there are plenty that are willing to be a team player. With your sweet hours of 10-2, this is a perfect job for a parent with kids in school. I am sure there would be people lined up at the door to not only do the job, but to also be willing to do whatever necessary. Your boss has the upper hand in this. Any employee is expendable, especially in this economy.

If you want to keep your job, I would get over yourself.

If you want info on how to present it to your boss:

Write up a letter of resignation
Go into your boss and say, "I don't do bathrooms"
Hand in letter of resignation.

 

[DisneyBamaFan]

I would go to work and work. If I had to clean bathrooms or a coffee bar, it would not matter to me.

^^^ This ^^^

I am a Director, and I take my turn cleaning up the common areas in my office in NJ. What kind of example would I be setting for others if I deemed it beneath me or refused just because I am only in the office once every other week? It is my "home" office, so I take my turn.

 

[DisneyBamaFan]

I'm with the OP. She specifically asked if it was going to be her duties when hired, she was told no, and bc of the actions of others, she is now being told to do it for no extra money.

In a real response to your question, OP, I would kindly remind the boss of your interview question re bathroom duties and his answer; and ask (a) to only have to clean the coffee areas and not the bathrooms - and ask for a raise for the additional duties.

Good luck!

Just asking would identify them as not being a team player forever more in my eyes. Then again, I am a real hard case when it comes to team work. How this is taken really depends on the boss. It could be risky.

 

[JoiseyMom]

Wow. Do you really think this is fair to your co-workers? If everyone is being asked (told, really, since the boss can make all the decisions he/she wants to) to take their turn at cleaning the bathrooms and coffee area and you "refuse" to do it? Why should you get special treatment?

I just really don't understand the outright refusal to clean bathrooms. You seriously would rather lose the job than take your fair turn in cleaning? Wow.

Is it fair to me, who never ever uses the coffee area to have to clean because they can't clean up after themselves?

Yes, I would rather lose my job then clean a bathroom and I have in the past as I explained in my OP. And that job I really needed. If you want an employee to clean toilets, tell them up front when they are being hired, don't lie or hide it. That isn't fair.

 

[Lintasare]

Job duties are never static from the day you interview.

As people come and go in companies, jobs change to meet the needs of the company. This happens from the janitor to the president of any company. My husband is an executive with a fortune 500 company. As layoffs and attrition happen, his job changes as others absorb those duties. As long as the new duties aren't life threatening, it is all part of being a team player. You either do your job, new duties and all, or you if you don't like it, you are free to find a new job. That is the way it works in the working world of grownups.

If this is a task that is being asked of all employees, all their job descriptions are changing. You won't have a leg to stand on with the unemployment board.

Sorry, but under $10 an hour, part time employees are a dime a dozen. And there are plenty that are willing to be a team player. With your sweet hours of 10-2, this is a perfect job for a parent with kids in school.

If you want to keep your job, I would get over yourself.

If you want info on how to present it to your boss:

Write up a letter of resignation
Go into your boss and say, "I don't do bathrooms"
Hand in letter of resignation.

Great post.

I used to work as the receptionist in a small office, less than 20 people. My list of job duties had "Other duties as assigned". Which meant I had to clean the breakroom, stock the fridge with soda, keep coffee made, load and unload the dishwasher every day and water every plant in the office, even the ones in the individual offices. And I made less than $9 an hour. Did I complain? Nope. And all because of that little line...other duties as assigned.

 

[Pumbaa_]

OP I am with you. There is no way I am cleaning bathrooms - ugh! I don't do it at home and am not doing it at an office job, esp when you clarified that duty before you were hired.

SOundslike you have a good game plan, a conversation reminding the owner of the terms of hire.

Good luck and hope it works out

 

[DisneyBamaFan]

It will if it since it was discussed during the itnerview. I asked him, is cleaning bathrooms a job requirment/duty I will have to do. He said NO. Cleaning bathrooms was not a job dutie.

It depends - job responsibilities change. This isn't a slam dunk.

 

[JoiseyMom]

Job duties are never static from the day you interview.

As people come and go in companies, jobs change to meet the needs of the company. This happens from the janitor to the president of any company. My husband is an executive with a fortune 500 company. As layoffs and attrition happen, his job changes as others absorb those duties. As long as the new duties aren't life threatening, it is all part of being a team player. You either do your job, new duties and all, or you if you don't like it, you are free to find a new job. That is the way it works in the working world of grownups.

If this is a task that is being asked of all employees, all their job descriptions are changing. You won't have a leg to stand on with the unemployment board.

Sorry, but under $10 an hour, part time employees are abundant. And there are plenty that are willing to be a team player. With your sweet hours of 10-2, this is a perfect job for a parent with kids in school. I am sure there would be people lined up at the door to not only do the job, but to also be willing to do whatever necessary. Your boss has the upper hand in this. Any employee is expendable, especially in this economy.

If you want to keep your job, I would get over yourself.

If you want info on how to present it to your boss:

Write up a letter of resignation
Go into your boss and say, "I don't do bathrooms"
Hand in letter of resignation.

Belive or not it is not that easy to hire here. He has troubles hiring and keeping a warehouse person. People don't want to work for under 10/hour. I have worked there since Sept and he has gone through 4 warehouse guys. We take bets on how long the new ones are gonna last .

I won't resign, I will let him fire me.

 

[JoiseyMom]

OP I am with you. There is no way I am cleaning bathrooms - ugh! I don't do it at home and am not doing it at an office job, esp when you clarified that duty before you were hired.

SOundslike you have a good game plan, a conversation reminding the owner of the terms of hire.

Good luck and hope it works out

THanks

 

[disneybound2010]

Is it fair to me, who never ever uses the coffee area to have to clean because they can't clean up after themselves?

Do you never ever use the potty either?

 

[MIGrandma]

Is it fair to me, who never ever uses the coffee area to have to clean because they can't clean up after themselves?

Yes, I would rather lose my job then clean a bathroom and I have in the past as I explained in my OP. And that job I really needed. If you want an employee to clean toilets, tell them up front when they are being hired, don't lie or hide it. That isn't fair.

Okay then, let us know how it works out for you when you tell the boss you refuse to clean bathrooms or the coffee area and he lets you go. You just might find it difficult to even get another job, after he gives any prospective employer the reason why he let you go. If you would rather lose your job than pitch in and do your share of cleaning, that shows prospective employers you are definitely not a team player and possibly not an employee that anyone would want. If I were you (but since you are so adamant about not doing it, I'm sure you won't) I would think long and hard about refusing, and talking to the boss about it. The economy is still not great, you might find it difficult to find another job. And like Carly said, here in Michigan it's even more difficult. There would be many lined up to take your job, and they wouldn't bat an eye at having to do their share of cleaning.

 

[JoiseyMom]

Being fired for refusing to do your duties, especially if it is a duty that all employes are asked to do will not get you unemployment.

Perhaps this is a way for the bosses to weed out difficult employees.

LOL..we are an office of 8. If he watned to weed out difficult employees why isnt he firing the tech who had a hissy fit? Literally cursing and throwing things in his work room??? Why isn't he dealing with the kid that caused the hissy fit?

Me being difficult cause I won't clean his bathroom?? LOL...I am his lowest maintenance employee!! LOL, I follow through and do my job and I do it really really well.

 

[JoiseyMom]

Okay then, let us know how it works out for you when you tell the boss you refuse to clean bathrooms or the coffee area and he lets you go. You just might find it difficult to even get another job, after he gives any prospective employer the reason why he let you go. If you would rather lose your job than pitch in and do your share of cleaning, that shows prospective employers you are definitely not a team player and possibly not an employee that anyone would want. If I were you (but since you are so adamant about not doing it, I'm sure you won't) I would think long and hard about refusing, and talking to the boss about it. The economy is still not great, you might find it difficult to find another job. And like Carly said, here in Michigan it's even more difficult. There would be many lined up to take your job, and they wouldn't bat an eye at having to do their share of cleaning.

Yes I would rather lose my job then clean a bathroom. No apologizies for that. And as a side note, he can't bad mouth me other employers..he can be sued. And I will tell other employers that I refused to clean a toilet..I don't think they wont hire me...especially since I won't take a job that requiers that. The same way I won't take a job that requires me to work after midnite, or sleep with the boss, or anythign else "I" find unacceptable.

I guess it is a good thing I live in Jersey and not Michigan.

 

[Mickey's Minion]

Belive or not it is not that easy to hire here. He has troubles hiring and keeping a warehouse person. People don't want to work for under 10/hour. I have worked there since Sept and he has gone through 4 warehouse guys. We take bets on how long the new ones are gonna last .

I won't resign, I will let him fire me.

Yes, but you are not the warehouse worker.

You do customer service, with very appealing hours.

I know of many, many people who would jump at the chance to make a little change for those great hours. SAHMs that want a bit more adult interaction in their lives while the kids are in school, college kids that take late afternoon classes, a person who wants to make a little Disney money, etc.

I think you are far overestimating your worth to the company.

I would start looking for a new position, as you won't have this one for long with your workplace attitude.

Resigning is always better for future job opportunities than being fired. Especially being fired from your second job in a row in under one year of employment with them. It is a HUGE red flag to future employers when employees are not eligible for rehire after less than a year of employment. That screams difficult employee to any new hiring company.

You might want to rethink that strategy if you plan a future in the working world.

 

[DisneyBamaFan]

I just asked my wife - her response, If you are that adamant about not cleaning the bathroom but want to keep the job, tell him - but only if you are willing to quit or be fired over it. She understands your point of view.

She went on to say that she would just quit and not tell him why. Better to move on with no hard feelings. Life is too short. But, we don't need her income. She might feel differently if we needed her income.

 

[MushyMushy]

Yeah, sorry, I have to say I'd do the cleaning especially since it's turning out to be a shared responsibility. I wouldn't want to come across as some spoiled princess by not chipping in. But, in the meantime, I'd be looking for other work if cleaning was such a hardship to me.

 

[MarilIncredible]

I wouldnm't want to clean the bathroom, either, but rather than flat-out refuse, I'd askt he boss if he'd be willing to provide cotnainers of Clorox wipes and direct that all employees wipe down the bathroom after they use it, and maybe then the bathroom wouldn't get too dirty and he can afford a 2x a week cleaning service or something? I'd also insist on disposable latex gloves being available in the bathroom so you don't have to actually touch anything that is soiled.

I'd just suck it up and clean the coffee area. I very, very rarely use the microwaves here in my office, but I do tidy them up (heat water, make steam, wipe the inside down) whenever I do use them, which is more than most of the deadbeats around here do. And this office is, for the most part, comprised of attorneys.

 

[Mickey's Minion]

Yes I would rather lose my job then clean a bathroom. No apologizies for that. And as a side note, he can't bad mouth me other employers..he can be sued. And I will tell other employers that I refused to clean a toilet..I don't think they wont hire me...especially since I won't take a job that requiers that. The same way I won't take a job that requires me to work after midnite, or sleep with the boss, or anythign else "I" find unacceptable.

I guess it is a good thing I live in Jersey and not Michigan.

No, he can't tell a prospective employer officially why you were fired. But he can tell them you are not eligible for rehire. That is code for "fired." And a fired employee that didn't make it to a year of employment is usually not looked at very well by new employers.

Especially if it was the second job they were fired from.

Being asked to sleep with your boss is sexual harassment and there are laws protecting you from that.

Being moved to a night shift or other duties you don't like - again, you have choices. You either do it or you are free to seek other employment.

 

[SaraJayne]

OP, one of my DH's colleagues has a very similiar attitude to yours.

Her company-wide nickname is "Princess". And they don't mean it in a complementary way.

 

[Eeyores Butterfly]

Good luck finding a new job. If this is a duty assigned to every one, you are putting your boss in a bad position. Either fire you, or have the other employees mad because you are the only one not participating in the schedule. Our job description does not include bathrooms- my crew had to clean two somewhat scary ones the other day because our ride was down and we had run out of things to clean. I love my crew, but if somebody told me they "don't do restrooms" I would immediately call my supervisor and at the very least they would be talked to, possibly written up. What you are talking about is insubordination and most employers don't take kindly to it.