WWYD- Leaving Job

[crisi]

I'd offer up a consulting rate. It should be about three times your hourly rate. Higher if you don't want the job set at a point that will make it worth your while. Remember you'll pay self employment taxes and there is the extra hassle, plus they won't be covering your benes, the new job will.

Or I'd simply say "I'm sorry. I'm going to have a lot of new challenges at my job that I need to focus on and my personal life right now is also fairly demanding. I just can't make time."


Companies almost never manage to get someone onboarded in the two weeks of notice.

 

[Darcy03231]

I'd offer up a consulting rate. It should be about three times your hourly rate. Higher if you don't want the job set at a point that will make it worth your while. Remember you'll pay self employment taxes and there is the extra hassle, plus they won't be covering your benes, the new job will.
Or I'd simply say "I'm sorry. I'm going to have a lot of new challenges at my job that I need to focus on and my personal life right now is also fairly demanding. I just can't make time."


Companies almost never manage to get someone onboarded in the two weeks of notice.

This is what I did. Like you I gave three weeks notice, but I was going to a different company. Old company wanted me to come in at night for a few hours and on Saturday. Once I told them the rate I wanted to be paid (2.5x my current salary) all of a sudden they didn't need me that badly anymore.

 

[MrsPete]

You need to put 100% into your new job. They'll work things out in your current spot. It's is not your responsibility.

 

[MSSANDRA]

I think it's very important to leave strong bridges when you leave a job. I like the idea of the "consulting" position. I would assure the person you would like to help out but you have to be able to make it work for you. Be willing to negotiate and agree only if they are too. I am in a position where I need to give reference for past employees and while I would never give a bad reference to someone that left on the agreed upon terms, it is nice to be able to say that this person went above and beyond what they were required to do and when I employ someone, I love to hear these kind of things a well. If you do decide, be firm on how long you will do this and the terms of agreement.

 

[Surfinpiratee]

I wouldn't...like you said you did give them 3 weeks notice.

At my job, this girl gave her 2 weeks and quit. Then my manager asked her to work one Monday. She's a nice person so she did, but somehow (4 months later) she's still working every Monday. And now my manager is trying to get her to work more! I feel like she's taking advantage of her, my co worker is a super nice person.

I know my manager has done other things like that as well.

So from my experience, I wouldn't even start.

 

[crisi]

I wouldn't...like you said you did give them 3 weeks notice.

At my job, this girl gave her 2 weeks and quit. Then my manager asked her to work one Monday. She's a nice person so she did, but somehow (4 months later) she's still working every Monday. And now my manager is trying to get her to work more! I feel like she's taking advantage of her, my co worker is a super nice person.

I know my manager has done other things like that as well.

So from my experience, I wouldn't even start.

A similar story - when I was in college (back in the dark ages) I had a retail job in a mall. Because at 19 I was "older" and "more responsible" than the high schoolers they usually hired, I got a lot of hours. But I was in school.

An opportunity fell into my lap for an office job. Double the pay, work a minimum of ten hours a week, but if I needed more hours, they'd find something for me to do, come in when I wanted (they needed an "office girl" to stuff envelopes and do data entry and file - it was a pretty sweet job for a college student. During breaks I worked forty hours a week). So I gave notice to the manager. Two weeks notice - which for a retail job is plenty, and also said that my quitting was good timing because it coincided with finals.

I had to stop showing up. The new schedule came out for the week after I left and I was still on it. When I explained that the previous Friday was my last day her response was "but I need you." When I explained that EVEN IF I HADN'T QUIT I couldn't work those hours because I had finals during those times, she said "well, the schedule is up, you should have told me when your finals were before I posted it."

A few years later I went back and tried to get some holiday hours with them at a different location, I was "do not hire" because I didn't show up for work without giving notice.

The type of person who is going to give you any time of downgrade on a reference for behavior PAST your termination date is a jerk. And you are going "above and beyond" in making sure things are documented and as much work is done before you leave, and by giving three instead of two weeks notice already.

 

[snarlingcoyote]

I'd offer up a consulting rate. It should be about three times your hourly rate. Higher if you don't want the job set at a point that will make it worth your while. Remember you'll pay self employment taxes and there is the extra hassle, plus they won't be covering your benes, the new job will.

Or I'd simply say "I'm sorry. I'm going to have a lot of new challenges at my job that I need to focus on and my personal life right now is also fairly demanding. I just can't make time."


Companies almost never manage to get someone onboarded in the two weeks of notice.

This is what I was thinking. I would set a rate about 2.5 - 3x higher than my current hourly rate plus travel expenses (or at least mileage at the IRS rate and lunch) and my working time would start the minute I left my house. (You should be able to find nice boilerplate consulting contracts that you could customize.) The contract would specify what my final day would be, with the understanding that my rate would go up 30% if I worked longer than X weeks.

Then I'd do it cheerfully and tuck all the extra money away in a savings account somewhere to spend on something really special. (Want a new sofa? New carpeting in the Den? Pay off the car? An extra trip somewhere? A brand new Louis Vuitton purse? Frye boots and NYD Jeans?) If they didn't want to spend that, then, well, I guess I wasn't as indispensable as they thought I was!

 

[Imhere]

So hard for others to give you advice.

This isn't black or white, so much of this decision hinges on the type of person you are, the type of company they are and the type of person your boss is.

There's no right or wrong, it's all a gut feeling.

Having said that, there is nobody anywhere that would say you haven't already gone above and beyond by giving THREE weeks notice.

 

[snarlingcoyote]

That would sooo be sooo odd in my industry. It's not uncommon with some of the owners I've worked for to have an employee give 2 weeks notice, and to be told they could clean out their desk now.
Also, some of the corporations I have worked for don't consider a job open until it has been vacant for 3 months. It's called slippage, and they can bank the positions salary for months doing this.

And see, I know people who have given notice and been asked to stay at double their salary! It depends upon the profession and whether or not the company can survive without you or a you clone.

 

[Grumpy's Gal]

Been there , done that.
I wouldn't do it again.
" part- time" and " for a few weeks" was what they told me.
They wanted too many hours and a few weeks turned into months.
Cut the ties when you leave.

 

[ldo]

If you can swing it, I would offer 1 full day per week or 6-8 hrs (with a definite end date)-that way, you cover gas, time commuting, etc., and are still helping them out--and you make a few bucks. If they say no, then you offered to help in transition and they declined and no worries. Elaine

 

[tvguy]

And see, I know people who have given notice and been asked to stay at double their salary! It depends upon the profession and whether or not the company can survive without you or a you clone.

I'd love that. Job I was fired from 8 years ago now has a salary cap equal to half what I was making. May explain why 9 people have been in the position since I left. I was in that position for 16 years.

 

[rigs32]

You say they offered the same rate with no benefits. Why would you even consider that? They are offering you less money to help them out. I would never do that. Work isn't about friends and favors under those circumstances.

 

[bethy]

If I was able to do it given the nature/hours of my new job then I would do it. 25 mins from home isn't too much of a commute.
But I would def get an ending date of the arrangement.

I would do it, also. But just be really firm about the arrangement ending at some point. Don't let them string you along. But personally I would want to leave on the best terms possible.

 

[snarlingcoyote]

I'd love that. Job I was fired from 8 years ago now has a salary cap equal to half what I was making. May explain why 9 people have been in the position since I left. I was in that position for 16 years.

Pick an in-demand system used by industry/government/retail without enough people who know how to make the darn thing work properly, then pick an area in that system that must be used in the system no matter what.

 

[tvguy]

Pick an in-demand system used by industry/government/retail without enough people who know how to make the darn thing work properly, then pick an area in that system that must be used in the system no matter what.

You lost me.

At my current place, it took 9 months to fill the last opening. Lots of applicants, many offers extended, many rejected because of the pay.

 

[ruadisneyfan2]

Is 2 weeks notice the norm in your field? At my hospital, we are expected to give equivalent to the weeks of vacation time we get annually. For me that's 4 weeks. Our radiologists give 6 months notice.
Really it depends on the job.
Doing the same job for same pay w/o benefits is a pay cut, imho. I don't see how it benefits you & could potentially give them the chance to string you along longer with more guilt. Maybe I just have issues with trust but I'd cut the cord as long as you gave proper notice.

 

[SDSorority]

Hi everyone, thanks again for your advice! I have decided to make Friday my last day at the office, and I'm not going back after the holidays. 2 weeks is the standard in my line of work (I am finishing up being an Administrative Assistant in an academic department at a private University), so giving 3 weeks was really a courtesy. Also, coming in a few hours here and there after the new year adds to an eventual 2014 tax annoyance (rather than a clean cut off in 2013), and I do see the University dragging their feet on getting the position posted and hired if I'm still there 'helping out'. That's not good for any body! Also, MENTALLY, I want to be fully in my new life, not still in a limbo of transition. It makes it more real in my mind by cutting the cord. It's something that I've wanted to do for 5+ years, and I finally have the guts and financial stability to DO it.

 

[lauradis]

Good luck! Enjoy your adventure.

 

[cluvsdisney]

Hi everyone, thanks again for your advice! I have decided to make Friday my last day at the office, and I'm not going back after the holidays. 2 weeks is the standard in my line of work (I am finishing up being an Administrative Assistant in an academic department at a private University), so giving 3 weeks was really a courtesy. Also, coming in a few hours here and there after the new year adds to an eventual 2014 tax annoyance (rather than a clean cut off in 2013), and I do see the University dragging their feet on getting the position posted and hired if I'm still there 'helping out'. That's not good for any body! Also, MENTALLY, I want to be fully in my new life, not still in a limbo of transition. It makes it more real in my mind by cutting the cord. It's something that I've wanted to do for 5+ years, and I finally have the guts and financial stability to DO it.

That's great! Good luck with your new job!!!