Wow..some adults never cease to amaze me

I've never understood the mentality some folks have where they decide that because they arrived at a spot on the sidewalk two minutes ahead of their neighbors, that they then OWN that space and a three foot radius around that space. Especially when the 'first' arrivers are able bodied, and the folks who arrived just after them have a disability (or very tiny legs).

Now that doesn't mean it is okay to cut in front of folks who are already there.

It's more that we're all in this together. We do best when we all find a way to enjoy the show together.
 
I've never understood the mentality some folks have where they decide that because they arrived at a spot on the sidewalk two minutes ahead of their neighbors, that they then OWN that space and a three foot radius around that space. Especially when the 'first' arrivers are able bodied, and the folks who arrived just after them have a disability (or very tiny legs).

Now that doesn't mean it is okay to cut in front of folks who are already there.

It's more that we're all in this together. We do best when we all find a way to enjoy the show together
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I think that's a really nice sentiment, and it's lovely when people who are in the front row think about others around them, but I do think it's rude of others from behind to ask people to sit down or move over because they can't see.
 
I was at MNSSHP for the first time ever this year in mid October; my DBF and I had decided to sit down in Frontierland about an hour and a half prior to the second Boo To You Parade that night. We were sitting across from Splash on the fence beside the stairs going down to Pecos Bills, which means fantastic view of the parade, nobody in front of us. The issue arose with me, however, when the parade started and the parents of small children behind us allowed those kids to stand directly behind me. I was okay with it at first, but when the one literally blew snot and spit in my hair cause she sneezed/coughed, it took every ounce of my strength to not turn around and say something. It was disgusting, and of course I hear the parents laughing and giggling and "oh can you see honey". I'm sorry but please watch your kids or at least fricking apologize if they do something like that. I couldn't wait to get back to my hotel to wash my hair; I was scared to even touch it cause I didn't know what she had spit into it. Not the best experience that's for sure
 
I was at MNSSHP for the first time ever this year in mid October; my DBF and I had decided to sit down in Frontierland about an hour and a half prior to the second Boo To You Parade that night. We were sitting across from Splash on the fence beside the stairs going down to Pecos Bills, which means fantastic view of the parade, nobody in front of us. The issue arose with me, however, when the parade started and the parents of small children behind us allowed those kids to stand directly behind me. I was okay with it at first, but when the one literally blew snot and spit in my hair cause she sneezed/coughed, it took every ounce of my strength to not turn around and say something. It was disgusting, and of course I hear the parents laughing and giggling and "oh can you see honey". I'm sorry but please watch your kids or at least fricking apologize if they do something like that. I couldn't wait to get back to my hotel to wash my hair; I was scared to even touch it cause I didn't know what she had spit into it. Not the best experience that's for sure

Maybe I'm mean but I would not have let it go that easily
 

I was at MNSSHP for the first time ever this year in mid October; my DBF and I had decided to sit down in Frontierland about an hour and a half prior to the second Boo To You Parade that night. We were sitting across from Splash on the fence beside the stairs going down to Pecos Bills, which means fantastic view of the parade, nobody in front of us. The issue arose with me, however, when the parade started and the parents of small children behind us allowed those kids to stand directly behind me. I was okay with it at first, but when the one literally blew snot and spit in my hair cause she sneezed/coughed, it took every ounce of my strength to not turn around and say something. It was disgusting, and of course I hear the parents laughing and giggling and "oh can you see honey". I'm sorry but please watch your kids or at least fricking apologize if they do something like that. I couldn't wait to get back to my hotel to wash my hair; I was scared to even touch it cause I didn't know what she had spit into it. Not the best experience that's for sure

Funny...at my sister's wedding last week, the bridesmaid next to me at the ceremony (groom's sis) had the flu and spent a good chunk of the ceremony coughing and hacking directly into my ear/hair as she was seated beside me. Nothing I could do LOL.
 
I just knew someone would make it about biker types. Well, they were dressed in black leather, chains, Harley jackets, headgear so was just describing their outfits. They could have been dressed like aliens and I would have described them that way. I can't believe how quick people on this site are to jump on someone! And their (whatever they were) behavior was rude and entitled. He wasn't the only one to get on TSM and have it stop and have to leave. Yes, that happened to us and we did not feel entitled to line jump and comment and glare at us when I mentioned they would have been in line just one spot behind us if they hadn't jumped! Who knows? They were probably dentists in disguise. Oh No, don't all the dentists chime in. Chillpixiedust:


if "you knew someone would make it about biker types" and you were "just describing their outfits"....then why bother including their dress in the story at all?

I wasn't "jumping" on anyone at all, and I didn't mean to offend. I was merely pointing out that the ususal steroetypes about bikers are ususally not true.
 
On the evening of November 22, I walked from our hotel (Beach Club) to the international gateway of Epcot and got in the guest services line because I needed to replace my DAS card which had gotten misplaced when transferring to BC.

There were a few people ahead of me in line, and being the guest services line this meant waiting for a while. Near the wicket, but off to the side were two what looked like older teenage girls, obviously waiting for someone. Unfortunately, I soon found out who.

Suddenly there was this loud yelling from an adult male -- starting way off past the boats where you could hear him but not clearly see him. He yells the whole time he approaches Guest services. His yelling is mostly about him wanting "his tickets" and demanding to speak to a supervisor.

When he gets to near guest services he is met by what we soon learn are his two daughters (they were the apparent teens who had been waiting), a guest services CM, and at least one of the security people from the bag check area (my view of who all in terms of CMs came was partially blocked by the GS booth). He continues screaming about wanting his tickets and demanding to see a supervisor. Added to that is "you don't know who I am" and changing variations on how long they have been a DVC member (so, was that 10, 15, or 27 years ? because he claimed all of them...) and how they come to the parks at least twice a year, etc etc. Oh, and how he had been at dinner somewhere else and had to interrupt that to come and deal with this.

His wife then shows up behind him and tries to get him to calm down, unsuccessfully. Meanwhile, the CMs are all also trying to get him to calm down. The wife goes with the daughters and goes to the GS wicket and speaks with a GS CM trying to actually resolve the issue.

Apparently the issue related to both girls using partially used tickets, one girl was allowed in, but the other girl's ticket was seized. The father claimed they had many partially used tickets (he variously claimed he had 10 or 15 in his wallet right then he could show them) and that sometimes they forget to bring them so buy more tickets, the cost not being a problem. He said they had never had a problem using them sbefore and how dare Disney accuse him of stealing tickets (the daughters tried repeatedly to tell him nobody accused them of that, but he kept on repeating that along with his litany of other yelling).

I finally got up to the wicket and got to deal with my issue and then left, so I have no idea how long he went on screaming. But it was many many minutes while I witnessed it.

I was impressed with the solid line that the CMs made -- he was NOT going to be getting past him. Also, other CMs had come out of the woodwork as it were and were in the area but at a distance, though presumably ready to intervene if needed. The boats appeared to have been stopped, and there were four boat crew standing just outside the boat line area, watching. Yep, he would not be getting on the boats, either...

The CMs who dealt directly with him were calm, professional, and never once did I hear a raised voice from them.

I did watch one of the uniformed security calling in a description of the guy over his radio, not sure if they were contacting the police or not and I was so upset by the yelling that I was crying and I just wanted to get out of there, so did not wait around to see what would happen.

I was glad with the time of night there were not very many kids around to have to witness him. It was disturbing and distressing enough as an adult to be present during the altercation.

-SW
 
Well, I'm better than everyone else :cool1: because I admitted a time when I was rude (to the poor Nemo CM) while posting about other people's rudeness. ;) Maybe we could all admit to a time when we lost our manners at Disney? I've also put my daughter on my shoulders so she could see, blocking the view of people behind me, and once at Epcot I was the mom yelling, "We're supposed to be having fun so stop crying!"

I have to admit I got a little short tempered tonight. It was at my son and husband though. You know, men think they know it all ;) Anyway, we were going in Oakens before the Sing Along and I asked if the kids were going to play in the snow. My son said no, not now. Which is all I needed, but he continued to talk about how they'd want to play and you couldn't get them to leave, etc, and he went on and on and I finally said, "I got it. You don't have to keep telling me". He got mad. Then my husband gets all huffy because we have to go! or we'll be late for the Sing Along. I tried to tell him that the fast pass was for when we needed to be there, not when the show was going to start. Of course, I didn't know what I was talking about. We ended up waiting in the fp line for almost an hour. I got in a better mood once I got inside because the singalong was so fun. There was a guy who had empty seats on either side of him and refused to move over. He was in the reserved section so we figured that at 90 bucks a pop, he wanted his money's worth.
Oh and about those strollers. True, some people are reckless or use them as weapons, but I'm pushing one for the first time ever, and I'll say between people who just cut across in front of you and expect you to stop for them, or they're walking (usually as a very large spread out group) who suddenly stops right in front of you. As an unexperienced stroller driver, you're going to get hit. Thus far I've been able to stop or swerve, but it's not always the stroller person's fault.
 
if "you knew someone would make it about biker types" and you were "just describing their outfits"....then why bother including their dress in the story at all?

I wasn't "jumping" on anyone at all, and I didn't mean to offend. I was merely pointing out that the ususal steroetypes about bikers are ususally not true.

I typically don't see the purpose of describing anyone when it's irrelevant to the story. However, to me, the description of "biker" seemed relevant to this story because of the inside joke her and her husband ended up sharing. i.e. "I'll handle the biker chick!"
 
I typically don't see the purpose of describing anyone when it's irrelevant to the story. However, to me, the description of "biker" seemed relevant to this story because of the inside joke her and her husband ended up sharing. i.e. "I'll handle the biker chick!"

all fair and good. :) I actually had no problem with the story at all. just merely pointed out a common misconception. (ie, nothing to fear about "biker chicks) I was certainly not jumping on anyone.

glad we can lay this to rest now. :goodvibes
 
I don't think I own the space. However I get angry when we have been sitting there for 30 minutes+ before the parade, a family comes along 1 minute before the Parade starts and expects us to let their kids in front of us. Worst still, when we let the kids stand in front of us and then the adults want to come in front of us too.

We don't deliberately block anyones view, however if we have put in the time, we are going to stand if we want to.


I've never understood the mentality some folks have where they decide that because they arrived at a spot on the sidewalk two minutes ahead of their neighbors, that they then OWN that space and a three foot radius around that space. Especially when the 'first' arrivers are able bodied, and the folks who arrived just after them have a disability (or very tiny legs).

Now that doesn't mean it is okay to cut in front of folks who are already there.

It's more that we're all in this together. We do best when we all find a way to enjoy the show together.
 
We got on our bus for Pop at DTD, and a woman had her two sons (perhaps 7 and 8) chase a bus that had already pulled away from the curb and started driving. Other busses were also pulling away and her or her kids could have been struck. When the bus didn't stop for her, she told her kids "That bus driver had a bad attitude" (instead of saying "Oh well,I guess we missed the bus. Maybe we should have left the Lego store a little faster".) Our bus driver than tried to tell her "Ma'am, we aren't allowed to stop the bus for people once its in motion" She said "I wasn't talking about you" and he said "I know, I was just telling you the policy" and she yelled at him "I said I wasn't talking to you!" and stormed away.

I just couldn't believe that THIS is how she is teaching her children to deal with a situation like that.
 
if "you knew someone would make it about biker types" and you were "just describing their outfits"....then why bother including their dress in the story at all?

I wasn't "jumping" on anyone at all, and I didn't mean to offend. I was merely pointing out that the ususal steroetypes about bikers are ususally not true.

Because that's what they were wearing. They Chose to dress like that, and look like Hell's Angels, so they will be reported looking like that. They could have dressed in tutu's and would have been reported like that. Cheez, take a chill pill. The POINT of the story was that they line jumped while it was an early morning walk on. Everyone was walking on rapidly. They were behind us and they CHose to unhook chains, line jump, and they landed IN Front of us. They could have waited and been behind us. We laughed about it. The POINT is that they felt entitled just because they were made to leave the ride 2 times. Well, what about everyone else who had to leave. As I said, we were made to leave too. We didn't line jump because we were entitled to later on:) So, in conclusion: Everyone relax, no one was stereotyping!
 
"When folks are treated like cattle all day, they begin to act like animals."


Without - hopefully - getting too preachy, a fellow park goer once said this to me (or something close to this. It was some years ago.)

I've never forgotten. I think we all do well to remember that. When we are selfish, we lose our humanity.
 
We've been coming to Disney for years and I am still amazed to this day over the rudeness of some adults. During the FOF parade today I watched two grown women get into a shouting war in front of children. Basically, many families had been sitting and waiting for a hour for the coveted parade spot and as soon as the parade began, the 4 woman in the front refused to sit on the curb like everyone else in the area and stood up blocking everyone's view. They were out in the street, having words with parade CMs at times, and then when one mom asked them kindly to sit so the small children could see, they started yelling and using many profane words. Just never ceases to amaze me!

This is something that you can see on the roads (line backed up to an exit on an highway so Mr./Ms. "I'm more important than everyone else" thinks it's ok to drive right up to the exit and cut in there ahead of the cars that are waiting their turn. In other words many people think only they matter.
 
Because that's what they were wearing. They Chose to dress like that, and look like Hell's Angels, so they will be reported looking like that. They could have dressed in tutu's and would have been reported like that. Cheez, take a chill pill. The POINT of the story was that they line jumped while it was an early morning walk on. Everyone was walking on rapidly. They were behind us and they CHose to unhook chains, line jump, and they landed IN Front of us. They could have waited and been behind us. We laughed about it. The POINT is that they felt entitled just because they were made to leave the ride 2 times. Well, what about everyone else who had to leave. As I said, we were made to leave too. We didn't line jump because we were entitled to later on:) So, in conclusion: Everyone relax, no one was stereotyping!

ok, I'll try nicely again... I agree that line jumpers are horrible. and I agree with your assessment that these line jumpers were dressed like bikers.

however, most people dressed like bikers have nothing to do with one particular gang.. Hell's Angels amd don't try to look like Hell's Angels either.. they look like bikers. NOT Hell's angels You are stereotyping .

don't feel bad.. most people steroetype any bikers and presume they are trying to look like Hell's Angels, when they are not. that was my point.

I know bikers who are police officers, veterans, firefighters, etc. they do charity runs and protect the funerals of our fallen veterans.

these particular bikers were also line jumpers. not as bad as Hell's Angels' but pretty bad as far as us dissers are concerned!:rotfl: but more likely than not, bikers would let others in line ahead of them, as opposed to line jumping.

and now I think I have made my point.
 
Will a mod close this thread already. It is serving no purpose but to cause issues amongst Dis'ers.
 
I dont understand why adult women and men feel the need to block the view of a child....super...if you waited two hours for the parade your legs must be tired so sit down or at least let the kids stand in front of you
 












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