Wow.....now that isn't very clear............(new pricing....yikes!)

[dkrauss]

Ok, so the new pricing scheme finally came up on the WDW site................

The pricing for a 1 day ticket is pretty straight forward..........you select a 1 day ticket.......then you're prompted to select a day. Now the calendar breaks down what days are value, regular, and peak. The break down is what most expected..........June and July and the holidays are peak times..........September is a value.......and most is just regular. I found it interesting that the price they put below the setting on the calendar is the Epcot/HS/AK value..........not the more expensive MK price.

Where this all gets a bit confusing is when you selecting a timeframe longer than a 1 day ticket.....but I guess it really doesn't A 7 day ticket for 3 adults and 1 child came to $1460 which is $52/day. You do that an add a park hopper and the price is $1736 which is $62/day..........that's $10/day more per person for a hopper.........maybe I was wrong and it is clear...........but wait................there was no calendar question? So there's no calculation for visits that fall between regular and peek, or value and regular? The days only matter when you buy a 1 day ticket?..............Really.............

While you contemplate that (I realize the answer isn't all that confusing), I had pricing information for our November trip with my brother and his family. Now my wife and I will have AP's for this trip......(and NO the AP price didn't change ) so we're not impacted. My brother will be. So on Sept 27th 2015 a 7 day hopper plan for 3 adults and 1 child came to a total of $1678.46 with tax. That same setup today on February 28th 2016 is $1848.86 with tax. That is a 9.3% increase by my calculation or $170.40........ Seems like a big bump percentage wise. I know, when you look at over the total cost of a 7 day trip to WDW.........is $170 that big a deal ?

So back to my question about how they handle the price increase across periods............A one day ticket to the MK on a peek day is $124...........on a regular day $110.........that's about a 12% bump to a peak time...........against regular time. Its bigger going from value to peak, but the only timeframe I saw that was even possible was in March when the 1st thru 3rd are value times, the 4th thru 9th are regular......and the 10th thru the end of March is peak (spring break). What I believe WDW is doing is spreading the price increase across multiple days using some algorithm that takes into account the folks who will visit during all time periods and spreads an increase across their trip.............Now they don't explain it...........but that's gotta be it right? How else do you explain a 9.3% increase for 7 day hopper tickets......................magic........right?

So what do I think...........(not that it really matters )? This one is gonna really piss families off........or will it? This is really going to piss Florida residents off..........or will it? I don't really know. In the end it looks like it impacts locals (without AP's) and spontaneous day trippers. In the end its a PRICE INCREASE across the board...........most folks who visit Disney World do so for more than 1 day........which means they buy multi-day tickets. Given Disney just went and raised that pricing structure....without explanation..........makes it look like a plain old price increase to me. The tiered pricing is in the multi-day tickets somewhere but it isn't obvious.........

So IMHO this just pisses everyone off . But I know it won't stop me from going..........will you stop going?

Doug

 

[keaster]

Yes Disney at this time (for whatever reason) decided to do the tiered or surge pricing only on single day tickets. However I'm sure they will do this to the multi-day tickets at some point in the future.

 

[DebbieB]

Ok, so the new pricing scheme finally came up on the WDW site................

The pricing for a 1 day ticket is pretty straight forward..........you select a 1 day ticket.......then you're prompted to select a day. Now the calendar breaks down what days are value, regular, and peak. The break down is what most expected..........June and July and the holidays are peak times..........September is a value.......and most is just regular. I found it interesting that the price they put below the setting on the calendar is the Epcot/HS/AK value..........not the more expensive MK price.

Where this all gets a bit confusing is when you selecting a timeframe longer than a 1 day ticket.....but I guess it really doesn't A 7 day ticket for 3 adults and 1 child came to $1460 which is $52/day. You do that an add a park hopper and the price is $1736 which is $62/day..........that's $10/day more per person for a hopper.........maybe I was wrong and it is clear...........but wait................there was no calendar question? So there's no calculation for visits that fall between regular and peek, or value and regular? The days only matter when you buy a 1 day ticket?..............Really.............

While you contemplate that (I realize the answer isn't all that confusing), I had pricing information for our November trip with my brother and his family. Now my wife and I will have AP's for this trip......(and NO the AP price didn't change ) so we're not impacted. My brother will be. So on Sept 27th 2015 a 7 day hopper plan for 3 adults and 1 child came to a total of $1678.46 with tax. That same setup today on February 28th 2016 is $1848.86 with tax. That is a 9.3% increase by my calculation or $170.40........ Seems like a big bump percentage wise. I know, when you look at over the total cost of a 7 day trip to WDW.........is $170 that big a deal ?

So back to my question about how they handle the price increase across periods............A one day ticket to the MK on a peek day is $124...........on a regular day $110.........that's about a 12% bump to a peak time...........against regular time. Its bigger going from value to peak, but the only timeframe I saw that was even possible was in March when the 1st thru 3rd are value times, the 4th thru 9th are regular......and the 10th thru the end of March is peak (spring break). What I believe WDW is doing is spreading the price increase across multiple days using some algorithm that takes into account the folks who will visit during all time periods and spreads an increase across their trip.............Now they don't explain it...........but that's gotta be it right? How else do you explain a 9.3% increase for 7 day hopper tickets......................magic........right?

So what do I think...........(not that it really matters )? This one is gonna really piss families off........or will it? This is really going to piss Florida residents off..........or will it? I don't really know. In the end it looks like it impacts locals (without AP's) and spontaneous day trippers. In the end its a PRICE INCREASE across the board...........most folks who visit Disney World do so for more than 1 day........which means they buy multi-day tickets. Given Disney just went and raised the price....without explanation..........makes it look like a plain old price increase to me. The tiered pricing is in the multi-day tickets somewhere but it isn't obvious.........

So IMHO this just pisses everyone off . But I know it won't stop me from going..........will you stop going?

Doug

Explanation? They raise prices every year.

 

[Disneylover99]

If the tickets continue to increase roughly 10% annually, I will eventually be priced out.

 

[dkrauss]

Explanation? They raise prices every year.

Completely agree...........but 9.3% seems large doesn't it?

Doug

 

[Alesia]

I really don't get what the big deal is. They raise prices every single year. Yes, this one is a slightly bigger jump than normal (between 6% and 10%, depending on the ticket,) but it's not at all unexpected.

 

[5DisneyNuts]

NOT including tax - Adult Prices - on website now
$202 2Day Base $257 2Day Hopper
$290 3Day Base $345 3Day Hopper
$325 4Day Base $394 4Day Hopper
$340 5Day Base $409 5Day Hopper
$355 6Day Base $424 6Day Hopper
$370 7Day Base $439 7Day Hopper
$380 8Day Base $449 8Day Hopper
$390 9Day Base $459 9Day Hopper
$400 10Day Base $469 10 Day Hopper

Add Water Park option to 2 -10 Day BASE ticket +$64 per ticket
Add Water Park option to 2 - 3 Day HOPPER +$40 per ticket
Add Water Park option to 4 -10 Day HOPPER +$26 per ticket

Single Day:
Prices for one day tickets are subject to dates selected on calendar when purchasing. One day tickets expire on 12/31/2017. Amount paid for unused expired tickets may be applied to new purchase that is of equal or higher value. No credit or refund given if a higher season ticket is used during lower season.

Value:
1 Day MK= $105 Base /$155 with Hopper/ Add $64 to Base for WP /$45 to Hopper for WP
1 Day EPCOT/AK/DHS= $97 Base/ $155 with Hopper/ Add $72 to Base for WP/ $45 to Hopper for WP

Regular:
1 Day MK= $110 Base /$160 with Hopper/ Add $64 to Base for WP /$45 to Hopper for WP
1 Day EPCOT/AK/DHS= $102 Base/ $160 with Hopper/ Add $72 to Base for WP/ $45 to Hopper for WP

Peak:
1 Day MK= $124 Base/ $164 with Hopper/ Add $64 to Base for WP /$55 to Hopper for WP
1 Day EPCOT/AK/DHS= $114 Base/ $164 with Hopper/ Add $74 to Base for WP / $55 to Hopper for WP

Seasons:
02/28-3/03/16 Value
03/04-3/10/16 Regular
03/11-4/02/16 Peak
04/03-5/26/16 Regular
05/27-7/23/16 Peak
07/24-8/21/16 Regular
08/22-9/29/16 Value
09/30-11/19/16 Regular
11/20-11/27/16 Peak
11/28-12/21/16 Regular
12/22-12/31/16 Peak

 

[java]

I am glad I remembered to buy my tickets last night. It was just 2 tickets this time (2 day hoppers) but they would have been about $45 more today vs 12 hours ago.

And on tiered pricing....any long trip has to be during the summer for us (ironically usually value season for resorts) which will now be premium for tickets. Family of 6 may get priced out. Which really IMHO defeats Walt's original intentions of the park, but what do I know.

 

[Scrooge's Accountant]

I thought about this for quite awhile and I have mixed feelings. It's not going to stop my family from going but it's not only about my family, it's about so much more. It's about the the large family who's kids dream of a Disney vacation, the elderly couple on a fixed income, the single mother/father who want to make memories for her/his children, and the families struggling everyday that just want to give their kids an escape from reality......it's these groups of people that I feel for today. So my family will go as scheduled in December but unfortunately many others had their Disney dreams pushed back or in many cases crushed today and it sucks!

 

[tripletmomsrock]

I agree that the price increase may start to price some families out, but isn't that the point? People are complaining about how crowded it is, aren't they? We aren't a family that goes to Disney every year, we go every few years, because we enjoy going lots of difference places. Families always have to decide how important Disney is; for some they have to go once a year others it's a one and done kind of thing. Either way the prices are going to continue to go up each year.

 

[Disneylover99]

I really don't get what the big deal is. They raise prices every single year. Yes, this one is a slightly bigger jump than normal (between 6% and 10%, depending on the ticket,) but it's not at all unexpected.

The big deal is the conditions that are being added on. Tiering....expiration dates.....what's next?

 

[dkrauss]

I really don't get what the big deal is. They raise prices every single year. Yes, this one is a slightly bigger jump than normal (between 6% and 10%, depending on the ticket,) but it's not at all unexpected.

Agreed.........but all the talk of tiered pricing............its just doesn't look like that mattered..........as you say............its just the regular price increase.

Doug

 

[Alesia]

Agreed.........but all the talk of tiered pricing............its just doesn't look like that mattered..........as you say............its just the regular price increase.

Doug

So you're upset that there's not tiered pricing on multi-day tickets? You're upset that it basically just amounts to a regular price increase?

 

[horse11]

Here is my problem with it..... This price hike is coming right after all the cuts Disney is making. So basically you are getting less and paying more. Get use to it. This seems to the way of life in the United States and it is only going to get worse.

 

[dkrauss]

So you're upset that there's not tiered pricing on multi-day tickets? You're upset that it basically just amounts to a regular price increase?

No..........in my original post I said it won't impact me personally.

I'm curious about all the talk of tiered pricing and the fact that there's no clear explaination of its impact on multi-day tickets. To me............the impact to most folks is just a plain old price increase.

Doug

 

[brunette8706]

They will start with a one day tier ticket structure which will eventually go down a slippery slope. Just watch they will turn the tier into weekly passes. Now I wouldn't mind if Disney was on the up and up with new attractions new Hollywood studios etc. but with all the cutbacks in dining parks decorations even resorts I think it is ridiculous.

 

[Alesia]

No..........in my original post I said it won't impact me personally.

I'm curious about all the talk of tiered pricing and the fact that there's no clear explaination of its impact on multi-day tickets. To me............the impact to most folks is just a plain old price increase.

Doug

There is a clear explanation: There's no tiered pricing on multi-day tickets. Just because something goes through the rumor mill doesn't mean that it will come to pass.

 

[Allison]

I honestly don't see what isn't clear. One day tickets are priced based on date. Multi-day tickets are not.

 

[Golfjbc89]

The most interesting thing to me is that the hopper is now variable based on the amount of days, not a flat rate like it used to be. Really makes you need to think if you're going to use that hopper or if its just a nice to have.

 

[EricInPA]

The most interesting thing to me is that the hopper is now variable based on the amount of days, not a flat rate like it used to be. Really makes you need to think if you're going to use that hopper or if its just a nice to have.

It looks like there is only one break point for park hoppers. For 2 and 3 day tickets, it's $55/ticket. For 4-10 days it is $69/ticket. I agree that the higher price on a longer stay will make people think twice about their choices (or think about an AP... or 3 days instead of 4).