Would you go?

I believe strongly in having a good, solid emergency fund of at least 6 months before spending money on vacations. But that's just me. You just never know what life will bring and having an emergency fund is so important. If the "what-ifs" of life are the deciding factor, it may not be the right time to go. OP, I totally get wanting to do WDW while the kids are small. But, just wanting something isn't really enough. I would advise doing the responsible thing for the family financially...and only you and your DH really know what that is. Good luck and I really hope it all works out for you! And, don't worry, if you don't get back to Disney right away it will still be there when you're all ready. It's still magical with older kids!
 
I think that some of what you sy are concerns to you are normal things for us, so it is rough to give advice. My DH is seasonal, has been seasonal for over 40 years. WE have learned to plan ahead, have money set aside for the WInter months and the decide when and if to vacation after that. We also hve old vehicles. My Toyota is a 2004, and if my DH suggest one more time I get a new one....well he wont need to worry about seasonal employment any longer. His new" truck is a 2001. Neither one of us likes to part with what we have i guess! I have money set aside if we need repairs, or goodness I hope not, my truck dies. But I will never again invest in a brand new vehicle, so its vacation money for me.

If I was making the decision, I would not look at the What if's that never go away. Your DH job is not 100% secure, bt no ones job is. YOu have an idea how his contract will go.

You know what shape your vehicle is in and how much you wodl need to spend if you replae it. Can you do this comfortably if you vacation? If your vehicle is on the fritz and youknow you are investing more than you should, but have no cushion to place on a new one, well...that's your decision.
 
Usually the people who pose the "should I go" question aren't really asking if they should go. They're looking for support for the decision that they've already made. When they don't get it, they return with follow-up posts that skew the facts laid out in their OP so that their decision is more attractive.

OP, you were just there. Of course the kids want to go back! But if I were facing the same situation as you, I wouldn't be planning a return trip next summer. I'd be using the tax refund to take care of the older car. Then I would start setting aside the money you save by not having a car payment when the other car is paid off. That money can go toward a trip in 2017 (or 2018, or ?)
 
We're Canadian and the dollar is horrible. Maybe it'll go back up in 2 or 3 years?

Wife is Canadian- we live in the US. She has money up there and we aren't going to move it until the exchange rate improves. It wasn't all that long ago that the Canadian dollar was a few pennies higher than the US dollar. Plus you have a car that is 8 years old and still isn't paid off- and unless I misread your post, it sounds like the income tax refund wouldn't even pay it off completely. You didn't mention a six month emergency fund- which is the standard when employment isn't secure. I would pay down the loan and wait, put away money each month from the interest you are saving on the car loan- and plan for the trip by saving for it. Give your kids a small weekly allowance and give them the opportunity to learn how to save for their souvenirs. If you don't already have one- take a part time job. Set a two year goal, and start crossing off months on the calendar.

There is no such thing as 'found' money as a PP put it (unless you find a loonie on the sidewalk)- that money was earned, and I would use it to get out of debt. Yes, there are a lot of 'what if's' in life- so what? All of the males on my dad's side of the family are dead except me (yes, all of them) including two younger brothers- from congenital stuff- that doesn't excuse me from financial accountability to my wife and kids. The other side of those 'what if's' are that your car needs to be replaced and/or your husband's contract doesn't get renewed. The odds of your car needing to be replaced are probably better than the odds of a heart attack or whatever.

We are all different, and you have to do what is right for you and your family. As for us, we have been living debt free for many years now- and pay cash for everything- but it wasn't always that way. It took focus and sacrifice to dig out of the interest pit caused by credit cards and bank loans, but now we have the freedom to do what we want when we want. Your kids will still be the right age to go when the time comes to pull the trigger on another trip.
 

Usually the people who pose the "should I go" question aren't really asking if they should go. They're looking for support for the decision that they've already made. When they don't get it, they return with follow-up posts that skew the facts laid out in their OP so that their decision is more attractive.

OP, you were just there. Of course the kids want to go back! But if I were facing the same situation as you, I wouldn't be planning a return trip next summer. I'd be using the tax refund to take care of the older car. Then I would start setting aside the money you save by not having a car payment when the other car is paid off. That money can go toward a trip in 2017 (or 2018, or ?)

I agree with this, especially the bolded. ALL kids want to go back, my kids start asking the second we are on the plane home!
 
I understand your concerns but I try to not take life for granted and would go. The kids are at a great age. Maybe go for fewer nights?
 
Usually the people who pose the "should I go" question aren't really asking if they should go. They're looking for support for the decision that they've already made. When they don't get it, they return with follow-up posts that skew the facts laid out in their OP so that their decision is more attractive.

OP, you were just there. Of course the kids want to go back! But if I were facing the same situation as you, I wouldn't be planning a return trip next summer. I'd be using the tax refund to take care of the older car. Then I would start setting aside the money you save by not having a car payment when the other car is paid off. That money can go toward a trip in 2017 (or 2018, or ?)

Yeah well you're wrong here. I don't waste my time posting if I've already made up my mind.

There's nothing to "take care of" with the older car. Nothing's currently wrong with it, so not sure what you mean there? Do you just mean putting it on the loan for our newer car? Same with the setting aside the money. There's never NOT going to be a car loan. As soon as the current loan is paid off, we'll be getting a new loan to replace the oldest car.
 
In your situation, financial security/peace of mind is more important to me than travel. If you have a 6 month emergency fund knowing how unstable your husband's job is going to be and have enough left over for a trip, then I would go. If not, I'd put it off until you can comfortably afford it. You can't comfortably afford it right now.
 
Yeah well you're wrong here. I don't waste my time posting if I've already made up my mind.

There's nothing to "take care of" with the older car. Nothing's currently wrong with it, so not sure what you mean there? Do you just mean putting it on the loan for our newer car? Same with the setting aside the money. There's never NOT going to be a car loan. As soon as the current loan is paid off, we'll be getting a new loan to replace the oldest car.

Don't take it personally - it is something you'll see a lot if you hang around here long enough, and Marionette is speaking from that experience. There have been some really crazy ones over the years, people outright drowning in debt or relying on assistance from family or the govt to get by, still trying to justify a WDW while their kids are small!

Also, keep in mind that the DIS is a pretty debt-adverse place on whole so just the bolded right there will get you plenty of "don't go" opinions. To be entirely honest, I tend towards that camp myself, at least when job security is an issue, but I understand different people have different comfort levels with recurring payments. My husband's income was so up and down when he was in business for himself that I was all about minimizing the required monthly bills. It sounds like your situation is much more stable than that despite the year-to-year nature of your husband's employment.
 
Wife is Canadian- we live in the US. She has money up there and we aren't going to move it until the exchange rate improves. It wasn't all that long ago that the Canadian dollar was a few pennies higher than the US dollar. Plus you have a car that is 8 years old and still isn't paid off- and unless I misread your post, it sounds like the income tax refund wouldn't even pay it off completely. You didn't mention a six month emergency fund- which is the standard when employment isn't secure. I would pay down the loan and wait, put away money each month from the interest you are saving on the car loan- and plan for the trip by saving for it. Give your kids a small weekly allowance and give them the opportunity to learn how to save for their souvenirs. If you don't already have one- take a part time job. Set a two year goal, and start crossing off months on the calendar.

There is no such thing as 'found' money as a PP put it (unless you find a loonie on the sidewalk)- that money was earned, and I would use it to get out of debt. Yes, there are a lot of 'what if's' in life- so what? All of the males on my dad's side of the family are dead except me (yes, all of them) including two younger brothers- from congenital stuff- that doesn't excuse me from financial accountability to my wife and kids. The other side of those 'what if's' are that your car needs to be replaced and/or your husband's contract doesn't get renewed. The odds of your car needing to be replaced are probably better than the odds of a heart attack or whatever.

We are all different, and you have to do what is right for you and your family. As for us, we have been living debt free for many years now- and pay cash for everything- but it wasn't always that way. It took focus and sacrifice to dig out of the interest pit caused by credit cards and bank loans, but now we have the freedom to do what we want when we want. Your kids will still be the right age to go when the time comes to pull the trigger on another trip.

You misread, yes. The old car is paid off. We have two cars, one of which has a loan, the other is completely paid off.

And we have never had, nor ever will have a 6 month emergency fund. We have a savings account for large emergency expenses, and then another savings account for regular occurring expenses (Dave Ramsey sinking funds style), and then a "fun account" (that often in the past was always empty, lol)... But having 6 months salary set aside is honestly not a concern to us, as DH will always have some kind of work, even if he loses his current job, plus we have very good health and disability insurances to replace income for those sort of scenarios. I guess for me the comment/concern about him not getting renewed is - now, we're able to pay off debt faster, are able to build our savings faster, and able to contribute to education plans for the kids. For the first time in many, many years, we're not living pay check to pay check, and we can watch our debt totals going down. We can splurge on stuff. It's nice.

How that would change if his contract were not renewed I guess would depend on many different variables. I mean, worst-case scenario he'd be unable to find a job and he'd have to go on unemployment insurance while he looks for work. In which case, it'd be paycheck to paycheck living again - we'd still be able to meet debt, but there'd certainly be no money for any extras. However, I guess realistically the chance of that happening is slim to none. My husband was a contractor before he got his teaching job, so, whether he worked for someone else, or worked for himself, there'd always be work. I also know that the job he had many, many years ago, would jump at the chance to hire him back on, as they've asked him a few times over the years and we still keep in touch. So... I guess realistically there's not much chance of him NOT having work. It's just that the work would not pay what he makes now, so were his contract not renewed, we'd definitely be taking a cut in salary, which would mean less savings (or not being able to put any extra into savings outside of income tax return time), and of course, not being able to pay extra on debt (but we'd still be able to meet the payments we have now). I'm realizing most are right - there's just too many variables to try and plan around them for a Disney trip. The only constant is the car, lol.
 
Do you just mean putting it on the loan for our newer car? Same with the setting aside the money. There's never NOT going to be a car loan. As soon as the current loan is paid off, we'll be getting a new loan to replace the oldest car.
I believe the PP was suggesting using your tax return to pay off the 8 year old car, but don't replace the car until it physically needs to be replaced. Doing this, you would have the time period between paying it off and replacing the car (likely a few years) to save the money you would have been putting on the car loan.

I agree with a different pp...how old the car is in years is less of an issue than how many miles are on it. I drove my 2002 grand am until 2013 or so (got it used in 2006) and it was still functioning..just had tons of miles on it (2 cross country trips, plus 2 years worth of commuting 50 miles each way to and from work each day, 5 days a week). The car I had prior to that was a 1989 grand am. That car lasted 17 years..when it died it really died :) all that's just to say mileage is more important in the life of a car th an chronological years.
 
What's your point? Or are people not allowed to change their minds on how they feel here? Last time I checked, I've said in other posts since that we said we'd never be back, but have changed our minds.
My point is reading back over some of your posts after you returned home, you make it sound like Disney is not a place you'd want to visit again and because of the cost, your children were not able to do any other fun activities for the summer. Is that an experience you'd like to repeat?

You ask for opinions, you're going to get them.
 
Anyways, certainly lots of food for thought here. Appreciate the input, as I do agree with those who say we can't plan around DH's job. Having read responses and had time to think it out myself, DH's job isn't really as much of a factor as I thought it was. I've just gotten used to being able to have "extra" the last couple years. I would miss it- but I think that's why I feel like "do it now while we can, in case we can't later".

But... I'm also tending to agree with others who say take care of the car first, so... we shall see.
 
Yeah well you're wrong here. I don't waste my time posting if I've already made up my mind.

There's nothing to "take care of" with the older car. Nothing's currently wrong with it, so not sure what you mean there? Do you just mean putting it on the loan for our newer car? Same with the setting aside the money. There's never NOT going to be a car loan. As soon as the current loan is paid off, we'll be getting a new loan to replace the oldest car.
It's an 8-year-old car. There's always something to take care of, even if it's new tires and brakes. However if those routine maintenance needs of an older vehicle are already covered with emergency savings, then yes, I do mean that you should pay off the loan on the newer car (or at least pay it down) with the tax refund. You'll save yourself all of that interest and actually be able to be "car payment free" for the time period between when that loan is paid off and the time that the older vehicle actually needs to be replaced. The money not spent on car loan payments during that time period could be saved for your future Disney vacation or anything else that you might need.
 

Interesting. That certainly puts the question in a different light to me...

OP, my family travels a lot. We've done so in good years and in bad years when our income was absurdly low. But one thing I learned very early on is that a week's vacation isn't worth a summer of staying home and saying no to the little things that become fun family traditions. If a return visit to Disney is going to get you those same results - not being able to go to the local theme park (or zoo, or summer camp, or whatever) - don't go. Because you'll deal with the same disappointments when you get back. I know you're probably over the moon that the kids are asking to go back, especially since their initial reactions weren't so positive, but some of that is the very natural tendency for things to look better in memory than they did in the moment. The only way I'd be planning a return trip, if I were in your shoes, is if you can do it without cutting back on "normal" summer fun to do it so that the trip "hangover" doesn't include that negativity.
 
My point is reading back over some of your posts after you returned home, you make it sound like Disney is not a place you'd want to visit again and because of the cost, your children were not able to do any other fun activities for the summer. Is that an experience you'd like to repeat?

You ask for opinions, you're going to get them.

I asked for opinions on the finances, not on something that was written months ago that's not even a consideration now. :)
 


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