Would you consider this line cutting?

[MomtoEmIs&Ow]

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I think it is extremely rude behavior and deserves rudeness in return.

You said yourself that other people being rude allows you to be rude back? : And really no one would be wandering around with cold food if someone in our party looked for a table after you had ordered. It is rude to 'steal' someones seat though....



Also, no matter what someone will always be 'rude' or offending someone else in one way or another. No way to know what others standards are, but I think that people need to chill a little for sure. And with saving tables, my Dh takes the kids to find a table once I have ordered the food. And we go during slow season for a reason.
I can guarentee that you do not want to sit down with my kids while I am coming with the food anyway!! LOL

 

[rparmfamily]

I hope someone sits down with my kids LOL, if you do, do I need to pay you babysitting fees? If you sit down, that would help me, I can run up and help my husband carry the trays! We all win! Want anything while I'm up?

I have a feeling that no one will want to sit with my kids...they are prone to talking people's ears off LOL.

 

[princesscate]

Lol. We need a cure for that!

On our last DL trip at the Tomorrowland QS we saw a woman stand her toddler on top of the table, stripped him from the waist down and let him pee in a coke bottle. I'd like to see a little less of that on our next trip.

Why people think this is ok to do is beyond me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[zus888]

I don't know what a QS is, but maybe that woman was holding her table and didn't want to leave it when her LO needed to go potty?

 

[kaytieeldr]

QS = quick service (restaurant)

 

[DISNEYFOS]

Conversely, how is holding a table when you see people walking around and around with trays of food but nowhere to sit, while your food may be fifteen, twenty, or more minutes away, in ANY way a display of common decency and manners? And don't say you don't 'see' them . If that were true, if you didn't think there might be a possibility of no empty tables when you were ready to eat - you wouldn't have grabbed an empty table as soon as you walked into the restaurant, would you?

Sorry you may think that your argument makes complete sense..but I don't see it. The people walking around certainly had the same opportunity to pick a table and then go and order food, but chose not to. If you do it that way..you aren't in danger of walking around looking for a table. Its a preference thing. I get a table, and get my kids ready to eat which involves, cleaning the table, hand cleaner, getting juice cups, finding soy milk in my bags..etc. I can guarentee my husband shows up the food within 2 mins of getting all that done.. So you wouldn't consider us just sitting around relaxing waiting for our food.

Plopping yourself down at someones table when they didn't invite you to sit or taking a chair when someone says its being used is rude...no two ways about it. sorry

 

[Indiana Rose Lee]

Sorry you may think that your argument makes complete sense..but I don't see it. The people walking around certainly had the same opportunity to pick a table and then go and order food, but chose not to. If you do it that way..you aren't in danger of walking around looking for a table. Its a preference thing. I get a table, and get my kids ready to eat which involves, cleaning the table, hand cleaner, getting juice cups, finding soy milk in my bags..etc. I can guarentee my husband shows up the food within 2 mins of getting all that done.. So you wouldn't consider us just sitting around relaxing waiting for our food.

Plopping yourself down at someones table when they didn't invite you to sit or taking a chair when someone says its being used is rude...no two ways about it. sorry

Makes sense to me. We are always busy, too. We would wind up takin the table longer anyway if we had to do it all once we had food. We do squish everyone around one table, though, rather than taking two. I don't think it is rude to ask to join someone, though. Luckily we go in the winter. It is easier to not offend others!

 

[ChillyWilleys]

Last year DD5 waited patiently in line for 45 minutes to see Tinkerbell. Just about to the front of the line she announces she needs to use the potty NOW. So I brought her to the bathroom while DH waited with my other DD. Then, yes, 5 minutes later I joined him back in line. We went to the bathroom. Not to grab snacks or hop on another ride. Direct line to bathroom and back. I felt awkward doing it and felt eyeball daggers, but really a 5 year old needed to go, after waiting 45 minutes. I don't think that is unreasonable. I despise line cutters, but I think sometimes bending is acceptable. Its a place mainly for children afterall and sometimes nature calls and they gotta go when they gotta go.

 

[ScotsMinnie]

I don't know what a QS is, but maybe that woman was holding her table and didn't want to leave it when her LO needed to go potty?

Surely you are joking? Hoping so because the fact that she was holding a table is no excuse to allow a child to pee in a bottle in a restaurant while standing on the table. I can't think of any circumstance where this is OK.

Where does this end. An adult needs a pee whilst holding a table and doesn't want to give it up? Hate to think....

 

[ScotsMinnie]

Last year DD5 waited patiently in line for 45 minutes to see Tinkerbell. Just about to the front of the line she announces she needs to use the potty NOW. So I brought her to the bathroom while DH waited with my other DD. Then, yes, 5 minutes later I joined him back in line. We went to the bathroom. Not to grab snacks or hop on another ride. Direct line to bathroom and back. I felt awkward doing it and felt eyeball daggers, but really a 5 year old needed to go, after waiting 45 minutes. I don't think that is unreasonable. I despise line cutters, but I think sometimes bending is acceptable. Its a place mainly for children afterall and sometimes nature calls and they gotta go when they gotta go.

See this is where there is a question isn't it? if someone has been in line and a child needs to go to the toilet then surely we can all have enough compassion to let the child back to their place?

This is so different from people who try this on as an excuse to move further up the line or to join people when they have not stood in line themselves. I for one hate people pushing past to cut the line but have said to a single parent with child to take their child to the toilet in a line and I would hold their place. Surely there is a distinct difference and we are all sensible and kind enough to know the difference?

 

[kaytieeldr]

The people walking around certainly had the same opportunity to pick a table and then go and order food, but chose not to. If you do it that way..you aren't in danger of walking around looking for a table. Its a preference thing.

The parties of one or two absolutely don't have the same opportunity to walk around and prereserve a table. The parent traveling with just young children absolutely doesn't have the same opportunity to grab a table in advance that larger groups do.

It's not a preference. It's taking advantage of one's party size to the detriment of others, with zero consideration of those others.

Plopping yourself down at someones table

Respectfully, the table in your dining room is your table; the table in my kitchen is my table. The table in Cosmic Ray's? That's Walt Disney World's table.

 

[snowpixiemn]

it started happening when we visited,and large groups of folks from other countries tried to play the " I don't understand english,or the rules' routine when groups of teens tried to shove past my family I said LOUDLY 'NO!!!" and then glared at them. They backed off right away. No fool kid is going to shove my 10 year old to get one car in front of where they would have been anyway. It's not about the time waiting-it's about rudeness. And if you aren't willing to Just say NO! then why complain later?
I will get loud and fierce if needed. Not on a parent reaching their kid,but on groups of fools who are rude. I am past caring if others feel uncomfortable when I call rude people on their behavior. And if a huge group did this in front of us right before boarding,I'd call the CM's onto the carpet and ask WHY they were allowing misbehavior. Loudly.

Totally agree. I WILL be loud and make it known that your butt will not be going ahead of me. BOOHOO! if you had to pee, I have a medical condition that makes it pretty much unbearable to continuously hold my urine for a prolong period of time, but I suck it up and deal with it cause its a line and I want to ride. That being said if it is a small child (usually under 7) I will let them go pass me to get back to their party but only if it is a guardian and a child, no more than that. I am not a negative person and I love to spread pixie dust when I can (give stickers, mickey dolls and whatnot away) but I will not put up with losers who feel that they are more important than everyone else and that their time is a commodity.

 

[Manda]

Sorry you may think that your argument makes complete sense..but I don't see it. The people walking around certainly had the same opportunity to pick a table and then go and order food, but chose not to.

Nope. I regularly travel alone with just my DS. I can't send him to go hold a table by himself, so we have no choice but to wait in line and hope there's a table available. We typically eat early to avoid lack of seating, but I don't have any way to secure a table before we get our food.

That being said... table holding isn't something I really worry my brain over. I save my anger for line jumpers.

In a related note, as a parent traveling alone with a kid, I also couldn't (but wouldn't anyway) leave line with him to go to the bathroom since there would be no one there for me to catch up to. But even when DH is with us, I still wouldn't do that. Although, I can't imagine us ever waiting in a line so long that would stretch the limits of his bladder anyway. I think the max line we've ever waited in at Disney has been an hour maybe? I think his patience would be tested well before his bladder.

 

[WeLoveLilo05]

I have to say I have been that mom who who came out of line to meet the fairies - DD#3 age 2 had a stinky diaper and we had a 45 minute wait, there were maybe 2 peopl behind us when we left, my friend and my other 2 girls were in line I left w/ stinky daughter to change diaper(didn't think anyone needed to smell that for 45+ minutes) I got looks from so many people when we got back in line and I felt bad about it too, but I simply said "excuse me, we had to change a stinky diaper, my other 2 daughters are right there, may I go by please." Someone did say something rude to me so then I said "oh I am so sorry, she didn't go until after we had been in line but I could have left her stinky, poopy diaper on; but then since you are right behind us you would have had to smell it in this heat. I could go get it if you want" --- i know it was rude of me and againfelt bad saying it but it was to people who added about 6 to there group while I was inthe bathroom changing DD!

I wouldn't have given you a dirty look, seriously, we have ALL been there before. Every 30 mins @ WDW I am asking DD "do you have to use the potty, lets try, etc" but I'm sorry, if I was waiting on line for 20 minutes already and still had to wait another 25, there's no way I am going back to the end of the line b/c DD has to go really bad. Whats wrong with people? It makes you wonder if the people that were behind you ever even had little ones, do they remember what thats like? Everyone's going to get to see the fairies, calm down! LOL

 

[snowpixiemn]

kaytieeldr and Manda- I agree with you. It seems like a number of people think that everyone has the same ability to go and "plan ahead" and get a table. Uhh, yeah, like if I could some how make myself be in two places at once. How is it fair to the single people who came to enjoy the magic and eat not to be able to sit down after they have their meal? What will these table holders say? "Too bad you didn't plan ahead and PAY someone to hold a table for you?" Or perhaps they would say "Well, Disney is for KIDS, so too bad for you. My kids and their stroller and soy milk and place mats and my not trying to have them learn any control over their behavioral skills in a public environment is more important than you and your need to sit and eat the food you already have. First come, first serve." Here is my answer to people that have that mentality, you are inconsiderate ****s. And yup I have no problem enjoying an empty seat that NO ONE is sitting and eating in. Takes me probably 10 minutes to eat and I bet they will still be sitting for another 20 minutes before their party arrives with their food.

 

[Luvchefmic]

True because I go SOLO all the time and I may be 55 but I want to see Mickey, the shows, enjoy the rides, and eat a meal too

 

[rparmfamily]

The parties of one or two absolutely don't have the same opportunity to walk around and prereserve a table. The parent traveling with just young children absolutely doesn't have the same opportunity to grab a table in advance that larger groups do.

It's not a preference. It's taking advantage of one's party size to the detriment of others, with zero consideration of those others.

Respectfully, the table in your dining room is your table; the table in my kitchen is my table. The table in Cosmic Ray's? That's Walt Disney World's table.

Parties of 2 absolutely DO have the same opportunity...send 1 in line, the other to grab napkins,etc and a table.

A parent alone with a young child made the choice to go alone...and tables for 2 aren't hard to find anyway. I often go alone with my children and don't expect others to treat me special because I do. Their dad is often deployed, but I still make the CHOICE to go alone.

 

[Indiana Rose Lee]

Maybe that is the trade off for not having to take 45 potty stops, slowed down by a crowd, a stroller and an ecv, or the wheelchair. Neither is "fair." All of it is just life.

As I said, we have never eaten in a full qs restaurant. We go early to meals because my family always seems to be hungry early. We also go in January. I just don't have a big gripe for someone beating me to a ride or a table. It isn't my style. If the tables were full, I figure we'd just go eat at a bench or picnic in the grass. Whatever.

I didn't know you could call names on the Dis. That can't be less rude than getting an early table.

 

[ScotsMinnie]

Parties of 2 absolutely DO have the same opportunity...send 1 in line, the other to grab napkins,etc and a table.

A parent alone with a young child made the choice to go alone...and tables for 2 aren't hard to find anyway. I often go alone with my children and don't expect others to treat me special because I do. Their dad is often deployed, but I still make the CHOICE to go alone.

Sorry but that argument is a bit like scraping the bottom of the argument barrel.

I dont think anyone expects to be treated in a special way - just with a bit of consideration the same as everyone else. Makes me glad that the families I have run into in the main do not have this type of mentality. So pleasant.

All this about choosing to go alone. Where is your consideration for others? Its not about "well she chose to go alone so this is her own fault".

Are you the type of person that would not give up their seat for an elderly passenger or a pregnant lady on the Disney bus because they chose to go when they are old or pregnant?

 

[rparmfamily]

Sorry but that argument is a bit like scraping the bottom of the argument barrel.

I dont think anyone expects to be treated in a special way - just with a bit of consideration the same as everyone else. Makes me glad that the families I have run into in the main do not have this type of mentality. So pleasant.

All this about choosing to go alone. Where is your consideration for others? Its not about "well she chose to go alone so this is her own fault".

Are you the type of person that would not give up their seat for an elderly passenger or a pregnant lady on the Disney bus because they chose to go when they are old or pregnant?

LOL, I'm just playing devil's advocate here because I have never heard of someone complaining about someone grabbing a table and getting ready while someone else grabs the food LOL.

Really, it's Disney, go enjoy yourself and quit worrying or keeping score about table keeping, how long someone has been sitting there,etc. I've gone with my grandma (nearly 90) and she DID go sit down at a table while we went to get food. It was hot, she needed to be out of the heat and sitting, and well, we were about to eat. It doesn't bother me one bit if someone thinks that inconsiderate. Maybe because she's elderly that's ok?

We moved to HI from FL so we used to go all the time (We are DVC at BLT and SSR) so I've gone when it's busy and when it's not and it never struck me to care that someone was sitting at a table waiting for the rest of their party to bring their food. If we all went thru the line together and couldn't find a seat, we normally just wait until a table opens or go outside and find a seat. Wouldn't have occured to me to be mad at the "bad" people sitting at tables not actively eating.

And like I said, I've taken my kids lots of times alone (starting when my middle one was a small baby, so I had a 2 yr old and baby) and I have never been upset about not having somewhere to sit because someone else is sitting there LOL. I just took the kids to eat during offtimes to avoid the crowds.