wondering how you might handle this?

JDSNY10

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Hi All, This is my first time posting in these section of the boards. Although I do lurk very much.

I am hoping none of you have experienced what I just did but if you have I am wondering how you might handle it...

I have a daughter who has special needs. She is non verbal and makes alot of sounds but no words. Well she loves to be outside to watch the wind blow so she spends alot of time on our patio. Anyway, tonight for the first time I heard someone making fun of her from the street. It was 3 older girls (Late teens)

I FLIPPED! my wife wasnt home but when I ran outside to confront these morons they were gone. My daughter is very young (5) and she doesnt understand yet why I was so angry and upset. I refuse to not let her enjoy time outside but I dont know what the right thing to do is.

How would you handle it. I really would appreciate your feedback.

Thanks! J
 
Its ok to be angry and upset. Maybe next time take a deep breath try and relax something are easier to ignore then exsplain and if they made you that upset prob for the best you didnt catch up with them. As far as your daughter just say something like honey they dont understand why you were so happy and how much we love you. My son is 18 Autistic/ Epileptic. he dosent take much , just echos. its hard VERY hard. I bite my tounge alot too. Sometimes its just not worth it to confront people. if someone looks at Michael kinda weird I just say oh hes Autistic I wish I could be in his little world because nothing bothers him but boy can people be mean. They usually get the hint and move on. I did see a bumper sticker that said " I have Autism, Mom has PMS.. Don't push it" . You should also read the poem "Welcome to Holland" It is a great eye opener and will help you out. I am sure others will have comments/suggestions as well.If you want to vent more feel free to message me :goodvibes
I am betting your daughter would love to chase bubbles too.. Our stupid black lab likes to chase/ eat them and michael giggles like crazy..
 
My brother has williams syndrom and is mentally retarded. Growing up, I remember people staring at him alot but as I got older it didn't bother me at all. As my sister and I always say, there will always be mean kids. My mother always had the attitude, "ignore them, they're ignorant". You never know the kids who are laughing might grow up and have children/family members with a disability. There's no guarantees in life. You sound like you are very protective of your daughter, it shows your love for her.
 
Let me start off by saying that teenage girls are jerks. Having been one I know. They are self centered and not very understanding. Does that make what they did ok? Absolutely not. But unfortunately they are what they are and hopefully they grow up to be kinder adults.
Being angry at these girls is a perfectly normal reaction. You want to make everything happy and "normal" for your daughter. She should enjoy her time outside as any other child does. Just because people can't see her for the beautiful little girl I am sure she is makes them idiots. Don't let them ruin her happiness and the enjoyment you get out of watching her be happy. It's hard to let it go and move on but that's something you need to do. She needs to see that she is no different than anyone else.
My family is "different". My dh has CP. My two daughters are adopted and Chinese. My dh and I are not. I am overweight. We get lots of stares and comments. At first it really bothered me. I got really angry. But I have learned that it is their loss for not knowing who we are and missing out on what amazing friends we can be.
Those girls who made fun of your dd missed out on experiencing joy like no one they have ever know. I have yet to meet a special needs child who didn't teach me a thing or two about experiencing happiness. They feel it in their very being.
Learn to let the anger go. It will be hard. Really hard but in the end you'll be the bigger person. Your dd is here for a reason and some day she may just change the way someone looks at people who are different. It won't be those three girls and that is their loss.
 

you may have to consider a privacy fence; so, no one can see her. She may grow out of wanting to watch the wind blow and it won't be an issue in the future. If you won't or can't do the fence thing then maybe have some periods with her outside when an older person can be with her. Somehow, when someone is guarding there seems to be less issues.

It's going to be hard and this bad behaviour will unfortunately continue. Cruelty is around us. Please be patient with the morons. Obviously, these teenagers knew they were doing wrong or they wouldn't have run away. Hopefully, you scared them and they may never come back.

I would never get into any argument and so forth where your daughter can see and hear what's happening and it's about her.
 
While understandable, I hope you might value something in my experience being "the daughter". First up; my disability is physical and hard to miss unless your legally blind (and even then, it will get noticed by for instance the sounds my aids make etc. ;) ).

My mom is what I call overprotectice and oversensitive. She notices each and all stares, look, comments, judgements or even just things people are thinking that might not be positive. She kinda is like you; she shows her noticing it and it getting her upset. And you know what? It bugs the hell out of me! First of all; by doing this she will make me aware of things out there that I myself am not aware of as either I'm too busy with something else or because I have built in beter coping skills than she has. It is a shame to notice each and every time that she still focusses on the negatives and let those determine how she acts or not and yes; how it can thus influence me also. She's entitled to her own emotions and we all know any parent would go to bat for their child, but there should be a balance in there IMHO.

For instance, when at WDW? I will be way to busy enjoying myself to notice about 99% of things that might not be the most positive. My mom on the other hand? Sees it all! Worries about it all. Her day will consist of those 2 comments while using the bus, 3 looks at rides where we used alternate lines/waitingareas and those 8 folks that jumped in front of my powerchair in such a way it became unsafe. My day will have been that bus that came just as we walk up to the busstop, those 3 CM's we had a nice chat with, those guests we had a nice interaction with, that one ride I rode, those magical small moments/views we ran into while navigating the park, those laughs we had about silly things, the story about how we ran into the perfect souvenir for dad etc. And by the end of the day; telling myself to count to 10 (or more), take a sigh, and politely asking my mom to not be so in my face with her own sentiment about how others might react to me in a way she considered "done me wrong". ;)

I'm not saying, nor would I ever, that you can not have your own sentiments about this or respond to them and for instance advocate for their child when needed and the child can not do that. I'm just saying; be aware of how your OWN behaviour and outlook on these things can influence your DD, both in the way she reacts to it and the way she feels about herself. Sometimes it can influence more than the incident it started out with. Best thing for BOTH of you is to learn to find a balance in this. You will never even come close to getting rid of any and all stares, comments and what not. So start with giving up that illusion, it'll save you a lot. Where possible ignore. Focus on other stuff going on at that moment. Esp. if DD is not aware of it; stay in her world and enjoy her focus. If she's happy and content, watching that moment through her eyes and seeing her focus will make you feel a heck of a lot better than through the protectice dad glasses will.

Humor can do a lot. Both for yourself in making it easier to deal with, but also when it comes to accidently educating an outsider when they're open to it. Same goes for a smile, politeness etc. Much easier to get your message across than anger, lecturing or whatever.

Realise that you can not change the outside world or others. You can however influence how you deal with them and can teach your own daughter the same. Teaching by example is the most powerfull way to do so.

In those -still very- rare situations where it really gets dangerous; get daughter out of the danger zone. Take a breath, rant if need be (if emotions run too high, don't show those in front of daughter), if possible learn from the situation and talk it over with daughter in a way that is on her level.

As a parent you know you will have to teach your child/children how they can keep themselves standing in the real world. Prepare and guide them over the years so they can be as independant and healthy as possible in each and every way. When you become a parent of a child with a special need, you then also need to some of this for yourself. How do you do this while respecting the needs your child has but also in a way that still makes sure the child can thrive and is possible to get the best out of themselves? Educating yourselfs in how to deal with the outside worlds reaction to your daugther is one of the many courses you will need to take yourself. It doesn't all come in one lesson, it takes many of them. You will grow and learn. Make sure you keep your goal in mind (raising a as balanced as possible child that feels secure, safe and stabile that has the tools to make the most out of her life as she can) and set your curriculum accordingly. Sometimes you will find there are surprise tests like you had the other day. You took the test. How would you grade it when keeping the goals in mind? Where could you improve? How can you work on that? What is already going well and also deserves noticing?


And always remember; people will always think all kinds of things about you and loved ones and judge, even when there is nothing to think or judge. You can not stop that, so never let it stop you from doing anything.
 
And always remember; people will always think all kinds of things about you and loved ones and judge, even when there is nothing to think or judge. You can not stop that, so never let it stop you from doing anything.

This is very wise. We can't control what others say and do, but we can control our own response to it and refuse to let it interfere with the life we want to live. This sad experience can be a learning experience for you. You encountered this behavior privately while in your own home rather than in public, and this gives you a chance to decide how best to cope with it in the future, when you more than likely will be out somewhere.

I'm so sorry this happened. I know how painful that must have been to hear people make fun of your beloved child. :hug:
 
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Goofieslonglostsis.. what a wise person you are! and I can only imagine you have a very kind soul. Thanks for the "inside" view.:flower3:
 
Sometimes I handle things well, sometimes I don't to be honest. Perhaps one thing I've learned is not to project my feelings onto DD. She has multiple dx's, but for reference has PDD-NOS (the high functioning end of the autism spectrum). My heart used to break every time someone stared at her because she was flapping, or made a face, or worse said something hurtful or inappropriate... and then one day I realized, it didn't hurt her. Her brain being created in the wonderful, unique way it is means that she doesn't hear the sentiment behind the comments; she doesn't read the nonverbal facial expressions, etc. I was "wasting" emotional energy on the hypothetical (not that I think you're wasting anything, I am just trying to articulate my experience, and not doing a very good job) instead of participating in her reality.

From a mama bear to a pappa bear- :hug: I'm sorry
 
I think it would be appropriate if this happens again to just casually tell the girls that people can hear what they said.

They should be mortified, and even if they don't act mortified at that moment, I think it could be a lesson they learn in time.

If you are calm enough and you know the kids, you could go to their parent and explain they were making fun of your daughter who has disabilities. Most parents would want to know this so they can intervene...
 
What would I do? I'd let it go. People are going to make stupid remarks. Heck, I've even had ADULTS say stupid things. My son Christian is profoundly mentally handicapped. He is nonverbal, but he uses a lot of gutteral sounds, hooting, singing and squealing. He's loud too, and he has a deep voice now. So it's pretty attention-getting when he goes at it. We had someone at a restaurant make snarky comments along the lines of "that kid sounds like a horde of locust." Well, he kinda did. But what are ya gonna do? Those people left to go live their sad little unenlightened lives. Another patron witnessed the whole thing and he stopped by our table to say, "Don't worry about morons like that. Your boy can sit next to me any day." And then he went on to compliment Christian on his manners (something we work on constantly.)

My DH and I have a saying for people who are rigid and self-posessed: They just don't have enough handicapped kids in their life. I find that sad, too. People who get to know my son come away with a sense of his joy. I believe God put handicapped people on this earth to keep us all grounded and make us more compassionate. I can't get too worked up about those who don't get it and are stupid enough to show it.
 
How you react to something can have a profound impact on the child doing the bullying.

Several years ago. I had a child in my Pre-k class with CP. We were out on the adaptive playground when I heard a second-grader say to another one, "Hey, look at that spaz! What a loser!" I calmly walked up behind the student and said, "Oooooohhhh, I'm so sorry for you. Poor boy. You poor thing!" When he asked me what I was talking about, I told him that I was afraid he was going to miss out on a lot of things in his life. That the child he was making fun of was a very smart boy who was a lot of fun to play with. I told him that I was sorry that he hadn't gotten to know him and by making fun of him was losing out. I told him that a lot of children might avoid him if they heard him making fun of other people. I asked him if he wanted to play with someone who might not be nice to him.

The look on the bully's face was priceless--shame and maybe a little dawning of understanding.

Yelling back at people puts you in their category. It can help them feel justified. Sometimes taking a different approach is a better way.
 
When people ask rude, insensitive questions, that are none of their business, I just ask them 'Why do you ask?' Usually, they realize what they said was wrong, and just shut up. Sometimes, they have a valid reason for asking, such as they have a neice or nephew with the same disability. I then realize they didn't mean to be mean, so I don't take offence to it.
 
When people ask rude, insensitive questions, that are none of their business, I just ask them 'Why do you ask?' Usually, they realize what they said was wrong, and just shut up. Sometimes, they have a valid reason for asking, such as they have a neice or nephew with the same disability. I then realize they didn't mean to be mean, so I don't take offence to it.

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Hi All, This is my first time posting in these section of the boards. Although I do lurk very much.

I am hoping none of you have experienced what I just did but if you have I am wondering how you might handle it...

I have a daughter who has special needs. She is non verbal and makes alot of sounds but no words. Well she loves to be outside to watch the wind blow so she spends alot of time on our patio. Anyway, tonight for the first time I heard someone making fun of her from the street. It was 3 older girls (Late teens)

I FLIPPED! my wife wasnt home but when I ran outside to confront these morons they were gone. My daughter is very young (5) and she doesnt understand yet why I was so angry and upset. I refuse to not let her enjoy time outside but I dont know what the right thing to do is.

How would you handle it. I really would appreciate your feedback.

Thanks! J

All I can say is I feel for you. I have a nephew that has some medical issues. It infuriates me when I hear people being mean or talking about him. It is amazing how mean kids and adults can be. That is until tragedy or illness strikes them. I typically make a statement that puts them in their place. You do not have to yell or get irate, just tell them what low life scum they are making fun of a sweet girl dealing with the hand in life she has gotten. They must feel really good about themselves having ti oick on a sick child. I myself am a disabled veteran. I suffer from major nuerological problems now. People do not realize what the harsh pressure we put our bodies through does internally. I have to use the Guest Assistance Card or my family would not see anything in the Parks. I get all kinds of dirty looks and comments. I usually let them go but it made me cry this last trip where my 6 year old stood up for me and told the people my daddy fought for your freedom and may not have much time left. So he took me to Disney. He's sick. Is that ok with you? Shocked me. But she has listened to my wife discuss my condition with myself or my doctor and wathced as I get sick routninely and have the unpleasent things that come with it such as bile with as Shrk says out is better than in. SO I suffer from not only nasuea and intestinal issues, but severe nerve damage, constant back and hip pan which radiates up through my neck, shoulders, and head - including migraines. I guess I said all this to let you know that people are just mean and rude. This especially becomes the case at Disney when they see us getting a little assistance or able to use th eFast Pass or alternate entrance. They are selfish and do not understand what I or my family or going through. They do not realize that this may be the last vacation with my kids. In the case of my nephew, I have learned so much seeing the world through his eyes. Watching him beat the odds for his life expectancy. He is very intelligent and gets joy from the simple things. Now that he is older, he recognizes his differences more, He knows he will never really have a girlfriend - never get married, and live with mom and dad the rest of his life. He watches his sister and younger brother dot hings he will not be able to do. His heart condition keeps his actions limited. He also has some issues with his facial structure that some have been corrected but others will remain, It hurts him to hear kids and teens call him a monster. I have to admit a few months back we were in a store and I noticed he was upset while we were in line, He cried nd told me what they said. I approached them with their mother and explained the world to them. I told their mother she should be ashamed of herself. Thing is they were two of the ugliest kids I have ever seen and so was their mom. I let them know that. They scuttled off ashamed and embarrassed. Of course Ilet them know publically and all of the patrons and store employees applauded. Made him feel a little better. As others said we cannot change the world, but your right in standing up for her. There seems to be only so many times I can turn the other cheek - i only have two - even though God expects us to keep doing it, somehow I think he will forgive me. Good luck and wish all the best for your daughter. Living with disabilitites in your life changes things, especially your perspective.:banana::thumbsup2
 
He is not dealing with a kindergartner, but rather two punk teenagers who parents failed to raise them properly. You have to walk a mile in our shoes before judging this father for acting the way he did. He was defendign his daughter, just as that guy in the news that corrected the bullies on the bus for harrassing his daughter. I say right on, I am there right with you. Stand up for her, put them in their place, and just take a minute to explain to your daughter that you were upset because they said hurtful things and you wanted them to understand it was not nice. It sucks having to explain to sewwt children why others are so mean and hateful.
 













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