Wonder--10-day Hawaii to Vancouver 9/17/2015

[BonnieJG]

What was a rumor?

It's totally correct (under the PVSA law) that you cannot book a B2B that will transport you from one US port to a different US port without a stop in a DISTANT foreign port. A distant foreign port is described as "a port NOT in North America, Central America, the Bermuda Islands, or the West Indies (including the Bahama Islands, but not including the Leeward Islands of the Netherlands Antilles, i.e., Aruba, Bonaire, and Curacao)." 19 CFR § 4.80a(a)(2)." A closed-loop cruise (beginning and ending in the same port, US or foreign) only has to stop in any foreign port(near or distant).

What cruises are you referring to on the Magic that would not comply with this law?

Currently, anyone that DCL booked on the Hawaii/Vancouver; Vancouver/San Diego repo B2B is being notified that one or the other of their cruises must be cancelled.

You are absolutely correct. I'm one of the ones who booked these 2 for a B2B. Our TA confirmed it was illegal and we are getting our deposit back. The only thing they are offering as "compensation" is if you book another cruise the booking date rates would apple to a new one. I told the Disney agent that they should offer OBC or something, but even though they admit it was their "mistake", they are not offering anything other than the same rate option for another cruise. IMO they should have known this prior to letting us book it!

 

[PrincessShmoo]

You are absolutely correct. I'm one of the ones who booked these 2 for a B2B. Our TA confirmed it was illegal and we are getting our deposit back. The only thing they are offering as "compensation" is if you book another cruise the booking date rates would apple to a new one. I told the Disney agent that they should offer OBC or something, but even though they admit it was their "mistake", they are not offering anything other than the same rate option for another cruise. IMO they should have known this prior to letting us book it!

Unfortunately, DCL is still in the learning stages when traveling these "new" itineraries. There are other cruise lines that have already learned their lessons with the PVSA. And, of course, DCL won't ask anyone else for their experience. They like to think they can do the impossible.

But, yes, you would think that the debacle with the LA/Vancouver; Vancouver/Seattle B2B cruises in 2012 (same issues - different US ports at the beginning and end with no distant foreign port) would have taught them something, but apparently, they had to retake that test.

 

[denise]

I had the B2B booked with two separate reservation numbers. Disney called me the other day and said no can do!!!
But just yesterday I got a email about the Vancouver to San Diego trip with all the information from Disney. I'm sure it was just an automatic thing...

The Disney guy said they would have caught me because of our passport numbers. Darn just no way around it...

 

[NancyIL]

No, not true. That was a rumor someone started. Vancouver and Victoria are FOREIGN PORTS. We were booked onboard the Disney Magic with discounts on both cruises--- many of our friends did the same. DCL made the direct bookings.

Hi, Jacquie! Are you saying you booked the Honolulu to Vancouver and the Vancouver to San Diego cruises onboard the Magic? If so, you'll have to pick one. That b2b is considered a Honolulu to San Diego cruise, and it doesn't make a distant foreign port stop.

 

[goofynut41]

Does anybody know when you can start making reservations for Aulani? I figure its September, but wanted to ask if anybody knew....

 

[atinkerella]

Hello! We are booking Tmr, our second Disney cruise!

 

[2 princess 3 princes]

We are booked on this cruise as well! I'm a bit nervous to take my DDs out of school as they will only be about a week into high school, but figure it's a learning experience like no other!!

 

[sweetlovin']

It looks like there will be a few teens on this cruise. Awesome

 

[explorer1977]

I cannot wait for this cruise. I finally decided we had to book it after listening to the POD Cast a few weeks ago and listening to Kevin and John talk about Aulani and Hawaii.

 

[Lostboys]

We just booked this. We've been waiting for Disney to do Hawaii again since we missed the last one. We contemplated doing the b2b, but opted to fly there and sail back to Canada. We are now trying to decide if we want to fly in a few days early and stay at the resort as well. I think we should due to the length of the flight, give us time to get over jet lag before the cruise home.

 

[sweetlovin']

I cannot wait for this cruise. I finally decided we had to book it after listening to the POD Cast a few weeks ago and listening to Kevin and John talk about Aulani and Hawaii.

Welcome to the group

We just booked this. We've been waiting for Disney to do Hawaii again since we missed the last one. We contemplated doing the b2b, but opted to fly there and sail back to Canada. We are now trying to decide if we want to fly in a few days early and stay at the resort as well. I think we should due to the length of the flight, give us time to get over jet lag before the cruise home.

I think a few of us are thinking to stay ahead of time and sail home. It should be fun

 

[danfromca]

We just booked this. We've been waiting for Disney to do Hawaii again since we missed the last one. We contemplated doing the b2b, but opted to fly there and sail back to Canada. We are now trying to decide if we want to fly in a few days early and stay at the resort as well. I think we should due to the length of the flight, give us time to get over jet lag before the cruise home.

I'll definitely fly in a few days early to play tourist, but I expect I'll be able to find some very nice places to stay that aren't nearly as expensive as Aulani

 

[sweetlovin']

I'll definitely fly in a few days early to play tourist, but I expect I'll be able to find some very nice places to stay that aren't nearly as expensive as Aulani

I am trying to do a little research now as to where the best family hotels are and what makes them the best. My 2 teens and 1 preteen are fairly easy to entertain, but the 13yo would really like to fly over the volcanos. So I do need to make sure I find that excursion weather through Disney on the ship or through the hotel booked ahead of time.

 

[sweetlovin']

Happy Father's Day to all the wonderful dads on this cruise.

 

[NancyIL]

I knew this cruise was a long shot...and I was right. I cancelled it, but I know all of you will have a fabulous time!

 

[valbob89]

We are booked on the B2B Hawaii cruises. We booked on-board the EBTA and Russell assured me DCL had no problem with him booking the B2B Hawaii cruises. Looking on the DCL site today, the first Hawaii trip 9-7-15 - 9-17-15 is on the schdule but the 9-17-15 - 9-27-15 is not. They don't even show Honolulu has a possible departure port. Do we know why? I find it hard to believe this cruise is completely sold out and they aren't thinking there will be cancellations before the PIF date?

Valerie & Bob Valbob89

 

[sweetlovin']

We are booked on the B2B Hawaii cruises. We booked on-board the EBTA and Russell assured me DCL had no problem with him booking the B2B Hawaii cruises. Looking on the DCL site today, the first Hawaii trip 9-7-15 - 9-17-15 is on the schdule but the 9-17-15 - 9-27-15 is not. They don't even show Honolulu has a possible departure port. Do we know why? I find it hard to believe this cruise is completely sold out and they aren't thinking there will be cancellations before the PIF date?

Valerie & Bob Valbob89

That is odd, it just showed up for me. However, I did notice the price of the 4E is $2000 more than what I paid.

 

[valbob89]

I still can't see it but DCL also told me it was sold out and then said no it isn't - so who knows.

I just called DCL because I was thinking of adding the Vancouver to San Diego to my Hawaii B2B. After receiving a no, then a yes and then a hold while I check with my supervisor, she came back and said we couldn't do ANY B2B cruises with either of the Hawaii cruises. Can't do the 8-31 Alaska cruise and then the 9-7 Hawaii cruise. Can't do the 9-7 Hawaii and then the 9-17 Hawaii and can't do the 9-17 Hawaii and the 9-17 Vancouver to San Diego. That would certainly mean a B2B2B wouldn't be allowed either.

Unless my TA just hasn't gotten the message yet, I haven't been told my B2B Hawaii is off and it still shows up on my Castaway future cruise list. Unless the supervisor is wrong, looks like we won't be doing one of the cruises. I know a number of you said you where, have you gotten word that it isn't allowed?

Val

 

[sweetlovin']

I still can't see it but DCL also told me it was sold out and then said no it isn't - so who knows.

I just called DCL because I was thinking of adding the Vancouver to San Diego to my Hawaii B2B. After receiving a no, then a yes and then a hold while I check with my supervisor, she came back and said we couldn't do ANY B2B cruises with either of the Hawaii cruises. Can't do the 8-31 Alaska cruise and then the 9-7 Hawaii cruise. Can't do the 9-7 Hawaii and then the 9-17 Hawaii and can't do the 9-17 Hawaii and the 9-17 Vancouver to San Diego. That would certainly mean a B2B2B wouldn't be allowed either.

Unless my TA just hasn't gotten the message yet, I haven't been told my B2B Hawaii is off and it still shows up on my Castaway future cruise list. Unless the supervisor is wrong, looks like we won't be doing one of the cruises. I know a number of you said you where, have you gotten word that it isn't allowed?

Val

DCL is crazy! B2B Hawaii is allowed. B2B2B Alaska, Hawaii, Hawaii is allowed. The only one not allowed is B2B Hawaii B (Sept 17th - 27th) and Vancouver to San Diego.

I'm sorry you are getting such conflicting and incorrect responses.

Sept 17th Hawaii cruise isn't sold out at all. Not even sure why they would say that

 

[sweetlovin']

I knew this cruise was a long shot...and I was right. I cancelled it, but I know all of you will have a fabulous time!

I'm sorry you won't be cruising with us