WMD - This could be it!!!

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After several false alarms, it sounds like we may have found what we're looking for. Several soldiers at a facility develop symptoms of Sarin exposure and are treated. After confusing initial tests, definitive tests find the nerve agent.
Troops, journalists undergo cleanup for nerve gas exposure
By TOM LASSETER
Knight Ridder Newspapers

ALBU MUHAWISH, Iraq - U.S. soldiers evacuated an Iraqi military compound on Sunday after tests by a mobile laboratory confirmed evidence of sarin nerve gas. More than a dozen soldiers of the Army's 101st Airborne Division had been sent earlier for chemical weapons decontamination after they exhibited symptoms of possible exposure to nerve agents.

The evacuation of dozens of soldiers Sunday night followed a day of tests for the nerve agent that came back positive, then negative. Additional tests Sunday night by an Army Fox mobile nuclear, biological and chemical detection laboratory confirmed the existence of sarin.

Sgt. Todd Ruggles, a biochemical expert attached to the 2nd Brigade of the 101st Airborne said, "I was right" that chemical agents Iraq has denied having were present.

In addition to the soldiers sent for decontamination, a Knight Ridder reporter, a CNN cameraman and two Iraqi prisoners of war also were hosed down with water and bleach.

U.S. soldiers found the suspect chemicals at two sites: an agricultural warehouse containing 55-gallon chemical drums and a military compound, which soldiers had begun searching on Saturday. The soldiers also found hundreds of gas masks and chemical suits at the military complex, along with large numbers of mortar and artillery rounds.

Chemical tests for nerve agents in the warehouse came back positive for so-called G-Series nerve agents, which include sarin and tabun, both of which Iraq has been known to possess. More than a dozen infantry soldiers who guarded the military compound Saturday night came down with symptoms consistent with exposure to very low levels of nerve agent, including vomiting, dizziness and skin blotches.

A hand-held scanning device also indicated the soldiers had been exposed to a nerve agent. Two tests at the compound were negative, but further testing indicated sarin was present.

Sarin can be inhaled or absorbed through the skin and is considered one of the most feared but also the most volatile of the nerve agents, chemical weapons experts have said. A cloud of sarin can dissipate after several minutes or hours depending on wind and temperature.

The soldiers, journalists and prisoners of war who tested positive were isolated as everyone else evacuated the area. After about 45 minutes, the group was walked, single-file, down a road for about a city block to where two water trucks awaited them. The men stepped between the two trucks and were hosed down as they lathered themselves with a detergent containing bleach.

1st Lt. Elena Aravjo of the 63rd Chemical Company said she thought there might well be chemical weapons at the site. "We do think there's stuff in this compound and the other (agricultural warehouse) compound, but we think it's buried," she said. "I'm really suspicious of both of those compounds."

The suspicions, or at the very least concerns, were widespread. The 2nd Brigade's commander, Col. Joseph Anderson, toured the site on Sunday, as did Brig. Gen. Benjamin C. Freakley, the assistant commander of the 101st Airborne for operations. Shortly after, the division commander, Maj. Gen. David H. Petraeus, also visited the site.

The ranking officers made no official comment about suspected nerve agents. Troops not wearing chemical protection suits later reoccupied the military complex, while sections of the agricultural warehouse remained taped off.

http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/special_packages/iraq/5573683.htm
I suppose there's a chance that it may be related to pesticides that may be related to human nerve agents, but this sounds like the most promising "find" yet.
 
I "feared" that may have been the case... but it will be interesting to see what the final report on the facility looks like once they've gone through all the drums and done some digging around. After the false alarms, we all probably ought to wait until we have the country under control and we can talk to the folks what know what happened to the missing nerve agents.
 
Well, "not so fast" on the pesticide dismissal. Here's a new report from NBC:
U.S. investigates chemical find
By Dana Lewis, NBC News


U.S. Army commanders say they have discovered more than a dozen barrels of chemicals in an agricultural facility 30 miles northeast of here that have tested positive as blister and nerve agents. If that initial analysis is backed up by further testing, it would be the first confirmed seizure by U.S. forces of Iraqi chemical weapons.

THE U.S. SAID IT invaded Iraq to destroy Saddam Hussein's chemical and biological weapons, but until now none of those weapons have been found.
U.S. commanders said American troops were searching through the agricultural facility and discovered literature on controlling mosquitoes. But in a nearby pit camouflaged with leaves they found eleven 25-gallon barrels and three 55-gallon barrels.


Initial tests at the site were positive for chemical weapons, so more sophisticated gear -- a mobile testing unit provided by the German government -- was brought in.

Those tests also were positive for GA, known as tabun, GB, also known as sarin, both nerve agents, and for lewisite, a blister agent. But further testing is under way.

"Our detectors have indicated something," Maj. Ros Coffman, a public affairs officer with the U.S. 3rd Infantry, told Reuters.

"We're talking about finding a site of possible WMD [Weapons of Mass Destruction] storage. This is an initial report, but it could be a smoking gun," he said, adding that the site was south of the central Iraqi town of Hindiyah.

"It is not as if there is a cloud of gas hanging everywhere endangering soldier's lives. We're talking about a facility," Coffman added.

The U.S. troops were apparently led to the site by an Iraqi who approached them and said he had seen Iraqi military units in the area where the barrels were found.

About two miles away, tests indicated the presence of GB, or sarin, in what was apparently a training camp. But sarin is also used in low levels in pesticides, which were found at the camp, so it is not clear if the facility is a nerve agent site or merely an agricultural facility.Dana Lewis is an NBC correspondent traveling with the U.S. 101st Airborne in Iraq. Reuters also contributed to this report.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/895392_asp.htm?0cv=CA01
So why are they burying and camo'ing bug spray?!?!?
 

So them pesky 'skeeters don't see the exterminators sneakin' up on them!!!!!!!;)
 
My husband is a Hazmat Technician and worked for a Chemical company, Sarin he said is a pesticide, and is used everyday in bug sprays we use here at home called organophosphates( Ie:The insecticide is commonly found on the shelves of hardware and lawn and
garden shops under trade names such as Ortho, Spectracide and Real-Kill.

Raid, Diazinon)there are 45 pesticides known from this family only used in lower dosages when mixing to make the commercial pesticides for our everyday use. The higher dosages obviously were used for chemical warfare
Now if they found straight Sarin


discovered literature on controlling mosquitoes. But in a nearby pit camouflaged with leaves they found eleven 25-gallon barrels and three 55-gallon barrels.

Guess they are going to try and say they have some really big mosquitoes over there that they need the extra strength dosages......hmmmmm wonder if its going to be the same guy who keeps making the announcements that they are winning and the troops aren't really in the Capitol city..
 
I saw that Fox News and CNN are reporting that it probably is sarin, not just a pesticide. I'm not surprised in the least!
 


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