Wk of Nov 27--2006 Disney Half-Full Marathon Info/Training

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Picked up our held mail at the PO today. Hubby got his packet--I'm wondering if he'll let me open.

 

[plutosmyfav]

I was told 'WW wasn't for people like me' so 'the person like me' took her money elsewhere!!!!!

What a dumb leader!

I usually do my own version of WW. I lost 60+ pounds with them so I really can't knock them too much. For me its all about the accountability (although I hate having to admit that). Usually I eat about 45 points per day plus activity points. They tell me I should be eating 27 points per day plus activity.

I have had the opposite experience of Lisa. When I tell people I eat 45 points a day plus APs they nearly faint and turn green with envy ! One time a leader was marvelling over a guy she had in another class that earned 10 APs in ONE day. I scoffed and said "I often earn over 20 in one day!!!!" Oh its so fun to be an endurance athlete (ok, often really is just on the really long LRs)

I've never run a costume run before. Sounds fun. Guess that's gotta go on the "to do" list!

 

[MelRhoads]

Sunny -every october there is a mud run 5k in Little Rock Arkansas, you are encouraged to wear a costume! It is usually the same weekend as Raid the Rock adventure race, so i've never done it, but i'll bet it is fun!

 

[Jodi]

Thanks for all the advice guys. I'm starting my "food" journal today. I've given up trying to lose any weight before the race. I was hoping to dump 10lbs. or so, but I'm always hungry. Ugh. Last night I had to air pop popcorn @ about 9:30 'cause I was hungry & craving salt big time.

I wanna run in a costume!!!

MelR- My husband has the same problem as you. He literally gets the shakes in the a.m. about an hour or 2 after breakfast if he doesn't eat again. Talk about fueling your body, he really needs to. He's found that the protein shakes work really well for him. Whey protein, milk & a bananna takes care of his hypoglycemia & stop the shakes. You should try some form of this maybe. When he's hungry & hasn't eaten in a while he also becomes easily agitated & irritable (I call it male PMS, which he doesn't appreciate). Does this also happen to you?

No one has called me an athlete yet.

Jodi

 

[wtpclc]

jodi - You are an athelete!!!

 

[MelRhoads]

What exactly is a protien shake. Is it yummie? Can I buy one or do I have to make it? I do get the shakes if I don't eat. I have gotten really consistant about eating breakfast in the am. I always have oatmeal and a mocha (as we know, chocolate is good for me!!) I even do this b/4 my long runs. I forgot to mention that I do get some protien from sushi

I may need to find one in preparation for this week of torture!!!! Especially b/c my mom is coming this weekend and will really test my endurance by making me go shopping with her!

 

[keenercam]

jodi - You are an athelete!!!

We can always count on Carrie to be our biggest cheerleader! I must agree-- Jodi, you are an ATHLETE!

 

[Tiger Lily 03]

I was lucky to find this site and group. I am so happy to be included and I am most curious about the history of the group. How did it get started, have many of you run together before. Will there be any way to identify group members during the 1/2 and the marathon. These questions are probably all answered on prior threads and I will spend time tonight doing some homework by reading old messages.
I should probably add to my profile. I am from Philadelphia. Perhaps some of you will come here the first Sunday in May for our 10 miler, The Broad Street Run. It is spectacular.
HARRY

Harry, I’ve been trying to answer you from your post so many pages ago. I am so glad of your luck to have found our group and this site. We will be further enriched by your participation I am certain! (How did you find us I wonder?)

I will give history from my perspective. I participated in the half this past January 2005, our first WISH “event” if you will. I am not exactly certain how/who began it all. I tried to search, but the search did not go back as far as I needed so I gave up on that.

WISH was created to assist those seeking a healthy lifestyle and the interchange of support and information. (WISH=We’re Inspired to Stay Healthy) Someone wisely thought what about a goal for many of us, one we would NEVER have tried on our own. That spark of light gained momentum and turned into the 2005 WISH Walker group. Our goal was to walk the ½ marathon. None of our group started out as “runners” or ever thought of anything that daunting. In the beginning I think most of us figured that only the fastest, elitist persons participated in all types of race events. We decided that we had a year to work at it and a lot can happen in a year, oh yes! We said that the worst that could happen is that we would train and become healthier in the process. In that time we had never met face to face but became friends through our struggles, successes and support. It was a journey we all took together, like we are doing right now with our current group. We had people joining all the time as the training and the common bond caused us to grow and learn.

Some of our group has chosen to wear shirts designed by some of our members. Our color for DIS is “lime green” so thus the color of the shirts will be something close to that. Some of the DISboards members you may see at the parks with lime green something as a way of identifying our affiliation with the boards. I wear a lime green shoe lace attached to my waist pack whilst trekking the parks. I’ve actually met many DISers when they asked of my “greenness.” It is fun. I think as we get closer we may have some way of developing a “name tag” for Trails End dinner/picture ops that we will make and bring with us. Not sure if anyone is going to be adding anything else to the attire if they did not get a lime green t-shirt. That is yet to be posted. Someone last year made lime green scarfs that we were given at the Trails End dinner to either carry partly and discard or all the way to the end. Someone else brough "glow sticks" to help us find each other in the wee hours of the morning as we gathered. Logistics will be worked out as we get even closer to the event.

Hope I answered your questions at least some. Sorry if it is too long. I tried to give the “short” of it.

This year’s group began with I think this post and our posting has progressed weekly until we will culminate with meeting face to face either at Trails End or on Race Day(s).

WISH team 2006 Full-Half Marathon--January Info/Training

I'll post more later but wanted to also say:

Jodi, You are an ATHLETE!
We have ALL become ATHLETES!

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[MelRhoads]

Jodi - You are an athlete

Protein shake (WHATEVER) I went to walmart and got some of that stuff. That is not a shake. It may pass as bad chocolate milk, but I would not call it a shake. That implies that there is icecream and vanilla extract involved! I would say is should accurately be termed a "protein stir!"

 

[plutosmyfav]

Jodi you are an athlete

Jodi - You are an athlete

Protein shake (WHATEVER) I went to walmart and got some of that stuff. That is not a shake. It may pass as bad chocolate milk, but I would not call it a shake. That implies that there is icecream and vanilla extract involved! I would say is should accurately be termed a "protein stir!"

Melissa-- not all "shakes" are created equal! I hate rice protein, can tolerate soy protein, and actually like whey protein. When I make a "shake" from scratch I always put in frozen fruit (strawberries, raspberries, blueberries, etc). It gives it that frozen "shake" feeling. But by all means, when counting calories isn't an issue, heap in the ice cream and vanilla! Live it up Have you ever tried Slim Fast? Not as a meal replacement, but as a meal supplement. There's different types of those, too. I think the regular (more sugar) style is probably the most yummy. Make sure they are nice and cold.

A mud run in a costume? Well I would look and feel just like DS! What fun!

Sunny

 

[princessmomma]

Just checking in and looking for some suggestions to my problem. I have been feeling pretty weak for about 10 days now and today ran a 40 minute tempo. It was pretty tough but made it through. My heart rate was almost 180 when I finished and then even 5 minutes later it had only come down to 140, 10 minutes later it was rovering around 125-130.

Tonight, I feel just spent. My legs arn't tired, but my whole being is just wiped out. I don't feel like I am coming down with anything, I just have the feeling I used to feel when we ran a million wind sprints at basketball practice, kind of nauseated, dizzy and weak. DH says this is a classic case of over training? Any other ideas? What should I be doing or eating to help this? Do I just need to rest? I have a 20 miler slated for Friday, I will definitely rest the next two days.


Colleen

 

[HJL413]

Lily

Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. It is an honor and pleasure to be included in this group.

I found this group just by playing on the Internet. I was searching things connected to the Disney World Marathon and landed on this site. I discovered the marathon threads and started reading and found it so exciting I asked to be included.

My running and marathon story is a little different. I am 41 and have been running for about 10 years. I have run 5 marathons most recently Philadelphia 2004. I have been planning for Disney World 06 for about 9 months. This summer/fall I felt the plantar fasciitis start in my right foot. I tried to make it dissappear by running harder and more miles. I never said I was real bright. The pain became intolerable and I was in a cast for most of October. I am just now showing the signs of some recovery. I have run very little for 3 months and this is unusual as I was a 5-6 day a week runner.

The plan for the marathon was the race followed by a week vacation with my DW and our 3 children, DS (9) and DDS (twins 6). I think I can run with the pain and complete the marathon, however, I will likely have significant pain and difficulty walking during our vacation. I reached a decision today. I am going to skip the Disney World Marathon. I want to enjoy a wonderful week with our family and all of the magic of being together at Disney World. It will be almost impossible if I run as the injury is not fully healed and I am not properly trained.

I love to run and now that I have found this group I want to share in the excitement all the more. I know I have made the right decision. We are going to skip the marathon and we will go on our vacation later in January. Our children have a few days off from school and it will be a wonderful time for our Disney World vacation.

There will be other marathons in my future. I am going to look at Marine Corps or Chicago for October 06. I want to fully recover and get back to running.
It is dissapointing I won't be there to share with all of your excitement. I hope it is ok if I continue to hang around here and serve as head cheerleader. There is such spirit and enthusiasm on this board and I want to offer words of support and encouragement.


HARRY

 

[TiffJ]

Harry- definately stick around. Many of us plan on being here for 2007 too!
We have a couple of people that have had to make that hard decision too and they pop in every once in a while. I feel very lucky to have found this group as well.

Jodi-let me 2nd what everyone else has said YOU ARE AN ATHLETE. How many other people do you know that has even thought about doing a 1/2 or full marathon? But I know what you mean, mostly because of my previously sedentary lifestyle I have a very high resting heart rate. ( I think also because I am a little high strung too ) I cant wait until I have a heart rate lower than DH (he is a very calm, laid back person)

Sunny- that must have been really cool of you to hear, especially for medical people. What a cool complement!

I'm going to have to squeeze in my walk today between working at DS7 library at school & picking up DS4 from preschool.

DS7 is training to do the WDW 5k & this weekend he will have his first 5k. I am doing it with him so I wont get to PR, but I think it will be really cool to do it together. He has also decided he wants to do the Tour de France when he grows up. He loves Lance Armstrong. How cool is that

 

[Tiger Lily 03]

Harry, sorry your injury is going to prevent your participation. Plan on next January. If you haven't run this one you will love it! Hope to see you in the 2007.

Colleen I'd say rest. I'd also say doc appointment just to be certain. You don't want to mess with heart rate stuff.

TiffJ, Wow! DS doing his first 5k! Hope he is thrilled with it. That is quite a distance for a youngster. Have fun enjoying his first.

MelR, I'm with you on the protein shake review.

Lisa, you are such an inspiration and a wealth of information to everyone. I just had to say.

Minnie, hope that you will continue to heal and be with us in 2007.

I must say I have been enjoying the dream stories. I have not had any as yet. I guess it is b/c I haven't decided if I will be capable of the whole thing yet, so I can't even have those bad dreams about it.

I have been playing on the dreaded TM. Coming along a bit better. Will see how I feel after the weekend and the mostest longest I will have ever gone at one time. I am praying now that the snow holds off here so I don't have to do the 18 miles on the TM.

 

[gatorphipps]

Oh the dream sequences are just too funny I think if we put Cam's bear in the frothy cafe and stick Melissa in her port-a-jon right in the middle will have a smash hit

I discovered something new that might be helpful to others. Don't lose a lot of weight and expect to maintain your endurance. Not being happy with my WL this past few months I decided to get serious and follow Weight Watchers to a "T" last week. I did exactly what they call for, ate my daily points, my 35 weekly "flex points" and all of my activity points and lost 6 pounds!!!!!! (Yes this is over Thanksgiving). I came to the conclusion that either WW isn't designed for endurance athletes or I have a super high metabolism. The real catch is they only allow you to add 50% of the calories you burn during exercise (activity points). That's all well and good if you burn an extra 200-300 calories at a time, not 1,000-2,000! I'm guessing this sudden weight loss was part of why my 12 miler was tough last weekend. Yesterday's 6 mile TM wasn't really tough but I was sweating profusely (like twice as much as my normal profuse sweating) and my HR was really high (165-172) everytime I checked. It took 8 minutes of walking to bring my HR back down below 110. That is totally unacceptable.

So a warning: Don't panic during taper and decide to diet right before the race! Guess those donuts are good for me after all.

Sunny

Sunny - Thanks for your words of wisdom! This is so true and now I am glad I eat like a cow! It makes me run better!
Christa

 

[chimera]

Just a quicky this am:

Still packet-free over here

Colleen...just a thought, but you might need to get some labwork checked, just to be sure. Anemia and thyroid come to mind from the symptoms you're describing. Probably should have your electrolytes looked at too.

What do y'all think about continuing on after the 2006 races as the WISH Walking/Running Club? That would cover all of the various races we all participate in throughout the year, Disney or otherwise, with the ultimate goal each year to do the WDW Half/Full/Goofy.

Let me know what you think!

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

What do y'all think about continuing on after the 2006 races as the WISH Walking/Running Club? That would cover all of the various races we all participate in throughout the year, Disney or otherwise, with the ultimate goal each year to do the WDW Half/Full/Goofy.

Let me know what you think!

I like it!

 

[wtpclc]

Mel - I like your idea too! Especially since I won't likely be on teh 2007 team.

Harry - Forgive me for being late, still catching up from Thanksgiving. Welcome to our group! Many of us will have lime green shirts with a black logo that says WISH across the front. We'd love it if you cheered for us.

Colleen - Ditto what the others said. Take care of yourself. A little time off won't hurt.

MelR - I always put 1/2 cup to a full cup of frozen berries in mine. That's how they go from a "stir" to a shake. Gordon's has a nice frozen berry pack.

Tiff - That sounds soo cool! Good luck!

Cam - I may sheer, but you inspire.

Lisa - Hope that things are going well now that you are unleashed!

Hope everyone else is doing well. 3 more LRs until taper for me.

 

[MelRhoads]

Harry - I'm sure that was a hard decision, but choosing your family can never be wrong! Give yourself a pat on the back for being a good parent and caring more for your family that something that doesn't last (like a 26 mile race)

Lily - can't wait to hear about your 18 miler!!!!!!!!! If you have to do it on the TM, do you think you could finish an entire novel???

 

[aladdinsgirl]

Good morning everyone! Glad that training is going so well, we're only 38/39 days out. I ran on the dreaded treadmill last night, but it wasn't so bad. I did 48 minutes at 4r/w2 and I ran 4.06 miles. Is anyone else amazed that our short runs are just as long or longer than our long runs used to be?? Stephen and I were talking last night and we both agreed that a year ago if someone told us that we would be training for a full and a half marathon, we would be rolling on the ground and laughing. But honestly, I couldn't imagine doing anything else, we both love running, and hope to continue to run and prepare for various marathons and distance races in the future. Running and exercising are the ultimate "cancer fighters" and having a family history of cancer, heart problems, and high blood pressure, getting my steps in is so important to me. I know, I'm preaching to the choir here, but I just had to say that.

Colleen--I'm not an expert, but I think maybe you need a couple of days of rest. And get to the doctor, even if it's nothing, you're better off knowing than ignoring the problem and sacrificing your health.

MelR--I agree wholeheartedly with you, if it doesn't have ice cream, you better not be calling it a shake!!

Mel--I love your idea of a running/walking club! I know there are different races I plan on doing in 2006 and it would be awesome to have everyone's support and advice. Plus, I don't want to lose contact with everyone. By the way, Stephen and I are packetless too.

Tiff--That is great that you are getting your son into exercising at a young age. And he idolizes Lance Armstrong? That's awesome! Stephen and I don't have any kids (yet ), but we both agree that we want to teach them healthy habits at a very young age.

Harry--Sorry that you won't be joining us for the marathon, but I think you're making the right decision. Better off letting your body heal completely and missing one marathon than running the marathon and doing permanent damage to your feet. (Can you tell from my post that I tend to err on the side of caution?? )

Carrie--I know what you mean about trying to catch up on old posts, when we were in Disney in October, it took me almost the whole day to catch up on a week and a half. Stephen will kill me for saying this, but I hope to not to be able to run in 2007. Hopefully I'll be waddling around. I know you said you're not a huge Lions fan, but are people dancing in the streets now that Mariucci is gone? I was embarrassed for the Lions and their fans during the Thanksgiving Day game.

I better get back to work, things are going to be busy here for the next couple of days. Tomorrow starts our Dealer Meeting, and all of our dealers from around the world come in for meetings and to see new products. It's fun, but chaotic having everyone here. Good luck with training everyone, we're almost there!!

Krista