Will you pay $150 for the new "Disney After Dark" event in the MK?

[BuckeyeBama]

Not sure what that is supposed to mean. There can only be three options:.

Wow! I can think of many other options in seconds.

 

[JimmyV]

Wow! I can think of many other options in seconds.

Nope. More likely. Less Likely. Equally likely. If you can come up with more than that, then you will have reinvented math as we know it.

 

[BuckeyeBama]

Nope. More likely. Less Likely. Equally likely. If you can come up with more than that, then you will have reinvented math as we know it.

Human beings are not math problems.

 

[Pemeberly]

Human beings are not math problems.

He's not calling them math problems, though. But you can only be more, less or equally likely than something.

Sure, there are more complicated variations - first time visitors are more likely while every 10-year visitors are less likely that die-hard fans, for example - but ultimately you can only net out those three ways as a whole.

 

[BayouQueen]

If all the speculation is true that this event is not going to sell, then anybody who buys a ticket to this thing may wind up being one of a couple hundred guests in the park, which means they would for all intents and purposes have the park to themselves...would that not be worth it I wonder. If so, might be a chance to rip off the mouse instead of the other way around. Nobody else would have to worry about crowding after 7 either.

To me it would be kind of sad and not fun to be in a nearly empty park. I hate the really crowded times, but a big part of the magic of the parks is seeing other people laughing and being silly. I really enjoy seeing the little kids all wound up. That's a big part of a joyful day.

 

[scrapquitler]

Do you think the results would be statistically different amongst the general population? And if so, do you think that non-Disers are more or less likely to reach into their pockets for $600 for a family of four to do this? I am always amazed at the number of people who think that the opinions of the people here don't matter or are somehow non-representative of guests at large. When a company is taking surveys, it absolutely wants to know what its most loyal customers think. You can rest assured that American Airlines cares more about what its Gold and Platinum members think about a proposed change than a passenger who flew the airline for the first time yesterday.

I think that non-DISer are probably MORE Likely to pay for this than Disers are. Because most of us on the DIS have been to WDW many many times. Most people don't go multiple times every year, every year, or even every other year. I think that most people go to WDW a couple times EVER, and if it's a once in a lifetime trip, they are more likely to pay for extras. If I"m spending 33 days in WDW this year, a couple extra rides on 7DMT might make me go "meh, whatever" but for someone who has never been before, that might be a lot more appealing. Maybe I'm way off base, but that's how my mind works.

 

[lugnut33]

Now go re-do your math and ignore the 50,000 people at the MK that day, because I honestly think that these are the people who are least likely to buy the ticket. If you have been in the park all day and you already rode all the rides, are you going to pay $149 for a few more rides? Instead, figure out what 5% is when you start with all the people who:

• were in the other 3 parks that day, plus
• the number of people who spent that day at a water park, plus
• the number of people who went to US/IO or SW that day, and
• the number of people who are in the Orlando area for a conference at the Gaylord, or Swan/Dolphin, or Marriott World, or Hyatt Grand Cypress, or any of the other major convention hotels in the area. Those people were locked up in windowless conference rooms all day learning about boosting sales of pharmaceuticals.

I think this is your target audience from which to draw the 5%.

6000 (attendance) X 150 (per person) = 900,000
900,000 X 104 (2X per week so 104 times in a year) = 93,600,000

I really think they will attract a lot of people from the parks. Maybe you get guests who don't want to get to the parks until evening, they'll pony up for this. People with lots of disposable income will not think twice about $150, and just looking on this site you see lots of people with disposable income.

Do you think they'll restrict tickets to less people than 6000 considering all the attractions they are keeping open?

 

[Elevationist]

It's certainly the kind of thing I would normally happily pay for... I love late night in the parks. And I often travel solo or with people who head back to their room earlier than I do anyhow, so I would only have to pay for myself. However, $150 is still exorbitant. The most I would pay would be $75-ish.

 

[lugnut33]

Question!!
So, the park closes at 10 and the wait for 7DMT is 60 minutes. You get tickets for DAH and jump in line for 7DMT at 10:05, how long are you going to wait?

 

[scrapquitler]

Question!!
So, the park closes at 10 and the wait for 7DMT is 60 minutes. You get tickets for DAH and jump in line for 7DMT at 10:05, how long are you going to wait?

I would guess (and it's only a guess) that people with wristbands will enter the FP line and have a relatively short line while they work on getting the non-DAH crowd thru the line.

 

[freediverdude]

Question!!
So, the park closes at 10 and the wait for 7DMT is 60 minutes. You get tickets for DAH and jump in line for 7DMT at 10:05, how long are you going to wait?

Probably about 60 minutes. It would only die down later like after midnight. But then that's true on normal days anyway.

 

[dawgsgirl]

NO! I would not pay this, but I do not trust Disney enough to limit the tickets sold. They will sell as many as people will buy!

 

[BuckeyeBama]

Sure, there are more complicated variations

Yep, an infinite number of more complicated variations.

 

[lugnut33]

I would guess (and it's only a guess) that people with wristbands will enter the FP line and have a relatively short line while they work on getting the non-DAH crowd thru the line.

Not really fair to those who had day tickets, but it wouldn't be fair to make DAH folks go to the end of the either. Kind of a catch 22.

 

[drp4video]

Nope, well maybe unless they threw in an overnight at the Castle. lol

E Ride nights for $12.00 was worth it, $150.00 is not.

 

[snayak]

I would consider paying for it - lets run the numbers...

First, I value my wife & my time (spent together) at $1.70/minute.

A 1 day non-peak MK ticket is $105, or $210 total, so I'd have to save 53 minutes of waiting in line for it to work out - this isn't out of the realm of possibility. Walk on to BTMRR and SM and you're set here.

If i already had multi-day tickets (we usually to to the parks for 5 days, with hoppers) - the difference between a 3 and 4 (or 5 day, since 5th day is free) is $23 from UT - so I would be paying $254 extra for the 2 of us (300-46), so we'd need to save 149 minutes of waiting. This could also work out, but will depend on how many tickets are sold and delta's in wait time. Walk onto 4 rides and this starts making sense. Anything over 5 or 6 walk ons and we'd be fools NOT to do this.

In conclusion - as others have said, the shorter the time you're spending at WDW/MK the more beneficial this offering is.

Although, there is something to be said for grabbing a drink (or 3) at Trader Sam's and then heading over to MK with less crowds...

 

[metzgardesign]

So.....my family of three can have an evening at MK for a paltry $450?

Ummmm.....no way on earth. Absolutely not.

 

[Sue M]

Their stance right now is that EMH will continue. This event will run on non-EMH MK nights.

Untill they start cancelling EMH to add another paid EMH night as they did with other parties.

 

[Mikie]

This event is not for me unless they offer something really spectacular that I can't experience any other time, and even so.... Too much money and, while I don't like huge crowds, I find that a lot of the attractions are more fun with more people. Also, I am a rope-drop person so I would find it hard to stay up until the wee hours.

To me it would be kind of sad and not fun to be in a nearly empty park. I hate the really crowded times, but a big part of the magic of the parks is seeing other people laughing and being silly. I really enjoy seeing the little kids all wound up. That's a big part of a joyful day.

Interestingly, I hadn't considered this aspect yet. I have often told the story about a long ago trip that bridged "peak" time and "off peak" time from the beginning to end of my one week trip over spring break. The atmosphere was so totally different - suddenly fewer parades, shorter park hours and far fewer people. It was a real trade off of shorter lines during the day, but everything closing early at night. One day in DHS, we were walking past Streets of America and came around the corner seeing no one around in front of behind us. It was actually kind of sad and the vibe was just no fun.

Makes me think of wishing you had a job where you "did nothing" all day . . . Until you've ever had to sit at a desk without enough work to do and realized you should be careful what you wish for!

Empty MK at night might be awesome, but I'm just saying I can relate to the fact that to some it's a lot more fun with the atmosphere of lots of other happy revelers about.

 

[Delirium]

Bitter much? Honestly, if this is still around by the time DH and I go alone, yes we WOULD pay for an experience like this. Disney isn't forcing anyone to pay for an experience such as this.

Remember this is DISNEY, not the IRS.

Bitter? No. Not at all. I appears to me that 87% of the people reading this forum see this for what it is....and that is money grab for Disney. Meanwhile, somewhere between 5.5% and 13% of the people on this forum are too naive to realize that they are getting the exact same thing today for free.