Will Obama dump Biden from the ticket?

[sahd2one]

Just wondering when. I got odds on September 12th.

 

[Alicnwondrln]

No I dont think thats gonna happen.

 

[SwedishMeatball]

Obama didn't get a choice in choosing Biden, so he wouldn't be given a choice in dumping him.

 

[minniecarousel]

Why would he?

 

[Suzie Zoo]

Why would he? I thought it was a good choice.

 

[sahd2one]

There is a groundswell of discontent in the Obama camp that they should have picked Hillary. Look for Biden to drop out for 'personal' reasons by September 12th.

HiLIARy will be chosen as veep nominee.

 

[bsnyder]

There is a groundswell of discontent in the Obama camp that they should have picked Hillary. Look for Biden to drop out for 'personal' reasons by September 12th.

HiLIARy will be chosen as veep nominee.

At least one conservative pundit threw out this crazy prediction, on the day McCain announced Governor Palin as his nominee:

Crazy Prediction

Picture this scenario...

One month from now, the Palin pick has proven a bonanza for the McCain campaign. A large chunk of Hillary's 18 million voters have been won over. Conservatives are unified and energized, and the previously-undiscovered "Maxim magazine vote" is suddenly giving McCain large margins among young males.

Joe Biden will disappear from the campaign trail, and we will later learn it was to see a doctor. A previously-undiscovered, vaguely ominous health issue will be discovered, and Biden will sadly announce that he cannot continue as Obama's running mate. With a sudden need for a new one, Obama will turn... to Hillary Clinton.

Call it the Torricelli gambit.

If it happens, look for there to be very few questions asked by the MSM, as we're told to "respect the privacy" of Senator Biden health crisis.

 

[SwedishMeatball]

There is a groundswell of discontent in the Obama camp that they should have picked Hillary. Look for Biden to drop out for 'personal' reasons by September 12th.

HiLIARy will be chosen as veep nominee.

Really?? I had not heard that. I think Biden was a safe and reasonable choice, but off the message of change.

 

[Suzie Zoo]

I can't imagine that Obama would want Hillary to be his VP.

 

[Barbossa]

Obama didn't get a choice in choosing Biden, so he wouldn't be given a choice in dumping him.

Explain?

 

[bsnyder]

I can't imagine that Obama would want Hillary to be his VP.

He obviously doesn't want her to be his VP, because she apparently didn't even make his short list.

But wants and needs are two different things.

 

[nannerbadnanner]

At this point, I don't think Hillary would say yes even if he asked. Why should she help him?

 

[Geoff_M]

I'm beginning to think that Obama's not too sold on Biden. The day after the Palin announcement, McCain's web site had McCain/Palin merchandise for sale. It's been almost two weeks since Obama announced Biden as his VP and you can't buy anything from Obama's site with "Obama/Biden" on it. It's all about "Obama". What's up with that?

 

[SwedishMeatball]

Explain?

I'm sorry, let me rephrase it:

Obama didn't get a choice in choosing Biden, so he wouldn't be given a choice in dumping him.

 

[bekkiz]

Hilary would be stupid to accept at this point. She'll have far more power staying in the senate. I remember hearing that she's got a shot at Majority Leader. Obama would probably just use her in lame ways, photo ops etc Plus, who wants to be second/third/fourth pick? Plus, if Obama loses, she'll be able to make a better run in '12.
(and I say this as someone who will vote for Obama. I just think it would be a bad match)

 

[DawnCt1]

He obviously doesn't want her to be his VP, because she apparently didn't even make his short list.

But wants and needs are two different things.

I agree and I think that an Obama/Clinton ticket would be of concern to the McCain/Palin ticket. A late entry of Hillary onto the Obama ticket would generate a lot of buzz and interest.

 

[bsnyder]

This is without Palin's speech.

Poll: Democratic bounce gone, race tied
By DAVID PAUL KUHN | 9/4/08 6:27 PM EST Text Size:



A poll released today by CBS News reports that Barack Obama's post-Democratic convention bounce has been erased — and that for the first time, John McCain has drawn even with his Democratic opponent in the network's poll.

Only hours before McCain accepts his party's nomination in what will likely be the most-viewed moment thus far of his presidential bid, the race is knotted at 42 percent apiece, with 12 percent of voters stating that they are undecided, according to CBS. Obama was ahead 48 percent to 40 percent by CBS’ measure following the Democratic convention.

Other polls have failed to show the same tightening of the race found by CBS. Neither the Gallup or Rasmussen daily tracking polls have registered a significant drop in Obama’s support from his post-convention bounce numbers. The Gallup tracking poll, for example, still has Obama ahead of McCain 49 percent to 42 percent.

CBS’s findings from Monday to Wednesday — covering the early days of the Republican convention — is particularly noteworthy because generally Obama runs stronger in the CBS poll than in other surveys.

This week’s poll marks the first time since the beginning of the general election in June that CBS has found that support for McCain matched that for his opponent. In early August, when other polls showed an exact tie or even a McCain lead, CBS still had Obama ahead by three percentage points.

CBS polling concluded Wednesday, so it does not include any effect from last night’s speech by Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

CBS's telephone poll included 734 registered voters and had a sampling error of plus or minus four percentage points.

 

[Suzie Zoo]

Majority Leader? Really?

How is that even possible?

 

[bsnyder]

Hilary would be stupid to accept at this point. She'll have far more power staying in the senate. I remember hearing that she's got a shot at Majority Leader. Obama would probably just use her in lame ways, photo ops etc Plus, who wants to be second/third/fourth pick? Plus, if Obama loses, she'll be able to make a better run in '12.
(and I say this as someone who will vote for Obama. I just think it would be a bad match)

Could be. But she could also be the "saviour" of the party, and would have the opportunity to broker a very significant VP role from Obama.

 

[DawnCt1]

Hilary would be stupid to accept at this point. She'll have far more power staying in the senate. I remember hearing that she's got a shot at Majority Leader. Obama would probably just use her in lame ways, photo ops etc Plus, who wants to be second/third/fourth pick? Plus, if Obama loses, she'll be able to make a better run in '12.
(and I say this as someone who will vote for Obama. I just think it would be a bad match)

I think so as well. Obama is too insecure to share the spotlight with her. Her best option would be to let him fall on his face on his own and come back in 2012 with a lot of "I told you so's". Obama, would not run again if he loses. He will be the future "John Kerry" in that regard and the press that exalted him will return for the feeding frenzy.