Will DVC Ever Expand beyond parks again?

[Jon16]

I'd much rather see more resorts around the Disney parks. Like someone else said, as nice as the DVC resorts off-site are, I feel there are way better values out there.

 

[sethschroeder]

That is certainly true of WDW, but it needn't be true in general for a timeshare development to be successful. Very few other timeshares have this model, yet they are successful. Most of them are in places where the surroundings provide that week-ish-long vacation, at least seasonally.

DVC doesn't need a average timeshare in its system it has RCI for someone really wanting that. The only thing an average timeshare is going to do is further strain WDW at 7 months or take 50 years to sell out IMO.

I guess we will see but not sure if Disney adds another offsite until AUL sells out anyways.

 

[Simba's Mom]

If they ever build off site again, I wouldn’t mind a nice ski resort. It’ll be something different.

I agree with you (and I don't ski!) Either Colorado or Lake Tahoe would be great with me Someplace cool and comfortable in the summer for those of us Southerners who don't want to boil at the current DVC offerings in the summer

 

[Starport Seven-Five]

With companies leaving the area (Oracle, Tesla, HP enterprise) it’s probably not the best time to invest in California when prices are high.

But that seems to be the DVC way. Open GCV as the recession hit Cali, open Aluani as a recession hit Japan...

Now, if DVC could figure out something in Texas, perhaps?

Personally, I feel this is overblown for largely political reasons. The number of jobs actually leaving will be backfilled quickly and the bay area was over capacity for a while now.

Texas is basically Florida without the tourist destinations. Not a chance of that working.

 

[chalee94]

I agree with you (and I don't ski!) Either Colorado or Lake Tahoe would be great with me Someplace cool and comfortable in the summer for those of us Southerners who don't want to boil at the current DVC offerings in the summer

Not sure what RCI has in those locations. I traded in II for Grand Timber Lodge in Breckenridge in August 2013 and the weather was great (although the lack of oxygen took a day to get used to). Acadia NP was another great summer/Sept option for moderate temperatures.

I do wish Banff had more timeshare options...

 

[_auroraborealis_]

Texas is basically Florida without the tourist destinations.

Also, different snakes.

 

[Deb & Bill]

If DVC is going to charge close to $200 per point, they'd better offer some really great entertainment right next to the resort. Or charge the price by the season instead of by the point. You want ski season, you pay ski season prices. Otherwise, you get the cheaper off season prices.

Also, different snakes.

And dirtier beaches. Nothing like getting tar on your feet or swimsuit.

 

[montreid]

DVC on -- Castaway Cay. I'd do that.

 

[Starport Seven-Five]

DVC on -- Castaway Cay. I'd do that.

The annual dues would be astronomical.

 

[montreid]

The annual dues would be astronomical.

You'd think that was true for Aulani too -- but quite reasonable. Bahamas taxation and pay; resupply several times a week with regular boat service keeps costs down. Don't think it'll be significant beyond the initial build.

 

[Maistre Gracey]

DVC on -- Castaway Cay. I'd do that.

The annual dues would be astronomical.

Not to mention transportation costs... Think about the logistics for a moment. Needing open cabins one-way? Dedicated ship, or leave open cabins for majority of cruise? Weather??
Great thought, but it’s too complicated imo.

 

[montreid]

As was said of 160 acres of orange groves as well as swamp land outside Orlando.

At least there's a dock, runway, and developed infrastructure there already. That's way more than DLR and WDW had.

Just saying plenty of people do split vacations already with the cruises. Would be interesting to see them try out concept demand relatively easy with transit cabins carved out of existing ships and build out the existing cabana resort on the north side as a proof of concept.

 

[mlayton14]

As was said of 160 acres of orange groves as well as swamp land outside Orlando.

At least there's a dock, runway, and developed infrastructure there already. That's way more than DLR and WDW had.

Just saying plenty of people do split vacations already with the cruises. Would be interesting to see them try out concept demand relatively easy with transit cabins carved out of existing ships and build out the existing cabana resort on the north side as a proof of concept.

Ok so please tell us how disney recovers $5-10k per cabin just to shuttle people to their castaway villa? Or would they sleep in the engine room ?

 

[ITGirl50]

Also, different snakes.

Texas has a lot of industry.. energy, medical, space, tech, top tier education with a large pool of people to fill high paying jobs. There is very reliance on tourism to sustain the economy. Only comparison to Florida is no state income tax. Florida beaches are 100% better.

I’m a native Texan living in Houston. When people ask me if I like Houston I say “I’m always very well employed and can afford a nice, new home, so yes I like Houston.” That’s what’s great about Texas (besides Dairy Queen).

 

[_auroraborealis_]

That’s what’s great about Texas (besides Dairy Queen).

Which is headquartered in Minnesota!

 

[Starport Seven-Five]

You'd think that was true for Aulani too -- but quite reasonable. Bahamas taxation and pay; resupply several times a week with regular boat service keeps costs down. Don't think it'll be significant beyond the initial build.

Think about costs associated with Hurricanes though. Hawaii doesn't get wiped out by one of those every 5 years like the islands in the Bahamas do.

 

[mort1331]

Not sure what RCI has in those locations. I traded in II for Grand Timber Lodge in Breckenridge in August 2013 and the weather was great (although the lack of oxygen took a day to get used to). Acadia NP was another great summer/Sept option for moderate temperatures.

I do wish Banff had more timeshare options...

Unfortunately, or fortunately depending on how one looks at it. Banff is a National park. Loads of restrictions. And building there now, I don't know if they would allow anymore than there is. They also have a max 30% ownership for the whole area as well.

 

[montreid]

Ok so please tell us how disney recovers $5-10k per cabin just to shuttle people to their castaway villa? Or would they sleep in the engine room ?

Who says transit is gratis? Princess does land+cruise packages quite effectively and cruise lines routinely do rotating agendas on ships that don't do complete turnovers.

Can easily see itinerary for regular cruisers -
Day 1 Sun departure
Day 2 Mon Bahamas
Day 3 Tue Disney Cay - disembark
Day 4 Wed Cay
Day 5 Thur Cay
Day 6 Fri Embark
Day 7 Sat Grand Cayman -
Day 8 Sun Disembark

And for extended stay with resort DVC ability to add days
With four ships and easily rotate cabins to cover the demand without loss even at capacity.

Those wanting only resort can schedule air service -- this is quite routine for places like Belize which has significant resorts out on their cays/reefs serviced this way - the runway is already in.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

DVC on -- Castaway Cay. I'd do that.

A timeshare logistical nightmare. And I agree very, very expensive.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

I would be surprised if the Bahamas approved a timeshare development on CC. It would have to be negotiated. Disney's lease is quite specific about what they can and cannot do, and having that level of staff on the island ongoing, plus visitors, would be a significant change in the land use policy.