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[jackskellingtonsgirl]

BTW -- Have we already moved on to Valentines' Day Wally?

What about New Years, MLK (Oh where, Oh where is our outsider art lady when we REALLY need her?) Day, and President's Day Wallies?

Mama Jean and her marvelous mannequin displays? Those were awesome.

 

[PebblesMK]

Bah humbug on Valentine's day! And Bah humbug on New years eve!

Though I will say that I'd love to take a picture of myself and self impose Hello Kitty on my face!

 

[jlewisinsyr]

...go to other boards and let the comments there bug me...

"I've heard that first weekend in June is not family friendly..."

HUH???

What? We don't have families? Oh, or was it: We aren't friendly? Or is is: Our families aren't friendly?

Just EXACTLY what does that mean, not family friendly?

Ugh.

OK.OK.OK. I'm trying to shut up... HEY! I said TRYING!

Well when you have a so called "review" hosted right on this site that contradict what everyone in this subforum knows to be true, and people read this to be gospel, it is no doubt that people may get an impression that Gay Days are not family friendly.

Unfortunately someone, who needs not to be named, cannot seem to find a better review then what is posted.

 

[wallyb]

BTW -- Have we already moved on to Valentines' Day Wally?

Nope.
Just thinking positive kitty thought for the new year!

 

[thomasclan85]

 

[hematite153]

Ugh! I have tried intervening in those threads before and learned that I should stay away. (I do tend to get sucked in by2 or 3 a year, but, I try to limit it to that.)

DD doesn't know what "gay" is. She knows her God Father has boy friends and she has 2 moms and her other friends have a single mom, and some have moms and dads etc. Her response. "They've know known me since 2nd grade and E since Kindergarten. What's their problem?"

Yeah, most kids I know have quite a broad acceptance of what their friends' families look like. But, I find that as they become teens some component of their desire to fit in socially makes them ignore the acceptance they've already integrated.

Some people just don't think through their statements and they don't realize the harm they're doing. The gay-straight alliance around me has been running a "that's so chair" campaign to try to make people aware of how ridiculous "that's so gay" sounds. One of my colleagues was talking about it and said, "well, now we just say 'chair' whenever something is 'gay'". When I reacted to that and tried to explain that the point was that it isn't okay to equate something you don't like with a whole group of people, he looked at me like I had gone off the deep end. This is a man who knows that I'm married to a woman and doesn't seem to have any overt homophobic tendencies, but, he just couldn't understand why it was harmful. He couldn't think it through.

DP volunteers in the kids classrooms 3 times a week and practically lives there doing other volunteer stuff the rest of the week. The kids love her. So it's the hear say they're getting from their parents and older siblings.

I've discovered in the last few years that many kids don't make any connections between the people they know and the things they hear. I have had several kids (ages 8-12) rather suddenly realize, "hey, you're married to a woman...oh!" It's a bit amusing to watch their eyes as they put things together. These are kids who also know my DW and who know MANY same-sex couples, but, somehow the connections just didn't get through before. (One 10 year old last year actually followed up her comments of awareness by saying, "I went to your wedding!" It was humourous.)

You know, I would try to post. But I lack the "diplomacy" gene. ...
DS will come home with a renewed sense of the importance of being who you are,

Oh yeah, being diplomatic is hard!

I'm very glad, for his sake, that your DS gets so much positive reinforcement about being himself.

Let me have a go at em'! Where is it?

Alright, go Jen!

I asked my daughter tonight how she feels about gay people. (She is 9 and in our small town there aren't that many, but one of her friends has two mom's). She said "What do you mean how do I feel about them? They're people mom, I can only tell you about a person if I know them personally...that's like saying "how do you feel about blondes" It's not right to judge people like that, how about by who they are on the inside?."

Great kid!!!

We all love Rosie!

We do? I think we should take a vote!

We do?

We do?

Oh dear, I thought we were supposed to be an accepting, loving group?

 

[ConcKahuna]

Oh dear, I thought we were supposed to be an accepting, loving group?

Wait, it's GROUP?

And here I thought it was a loving, accepting GROPE!

 

[wallyb]

Wait, it's GROUP?

And here I thought it was a loving, accepting GROPE!

I prefer a rough grope - thank you.

 

[rosiep]

I prefer a rough grope - thank you.

GRO pE


This grope comes from the wrong side of the tracks.....

 

[jackskellingtonsgirl]

Hematite153, DS knows lots of gay couples. From the time he was newborn he has had G/L adults in his life. He will be going to high school next year, so I think a little reminder to be true to yourself is valuable - straight or gay. I want him to realize that all of the gay friends we love weren't always grown ups. They were teens who went to high school, and that climate can be scary and unfriendly. If DS is straight I hope he will be an understanding ally. If he isn't, then I hope the foundation he has will serve him well.

 

[wallyb]

GRO pE


This grope comes from the wrong side of the tracks.....

So same side as you?

 

[rosiep]

So same side as you?

Naturally....

 

[wallyb]

Naturally....

My favorite side!

 

[rosiep]

Now Wally!!! Please don't let me start the New Year with points! We ALL know which side you like.....

 

[wallyb]

The Flip Side!

 

[SandrA9810]

I had a nice twiddle my thumbs moment, when I had a guest tell me how much his wife loves coming to Disney, but how AWFUL that weekend in June is... Thankfully I had my manager standing there with me, and she saw that I kinda became silent at that comment. The conversation wrapped up after that, and my manager couldn't believe what the guy was saying...

 

[groovygirls]

I haven't read the how thread but the fact that there is a thread make me sick.
I tell my kids- you know not every one is straight- i would still love you if you were crooked. Yeah we know Mom (they are 7 and 10)

I would love to go during Gay Days- it doesn't fit in with the school calender. I would even wear red.( Heck we all would)

 

[PrincessKsMom]

Glad I read this thread. Was in another thread last week with someone who was arguing that the law doesn't keep people of the same sex from getting married, the people involved do because they chose to want to marry people of the same sex. Another poster and I tried to explain to him (or her) how wrong their thinking was, but finally gave up before we got points. I have a tendency to be like a pitbull when something gets under my skin and I felt bad about walking away from the thread. But I've realized you can't change some people and it was worth getting banned.

Someone else mentioned about children being unaware. A few years ago my DD asked me if we knew anyone who was gay. I said sure: so and so's sisters both have partners (and I named them). She was shocked. She always knew that they were each couples, but didn't realize that's what "gay" was. She just always took it for granted that they were couples and never questioned that it had a name. It's sad that it has to have a name other than love, commitment, family.

I wish you all would spend more time on the other boards, so people will get to know you and like you and your wacky senses of humor, but it must be tough to not want to reach out and smack people when their ignorance shows. Just as heteros shouldn't pre-judge gays, please don't assume that everyone outside this board is a judgmental, homophobic *******. I'll admit to being a judgmental *******, but I'm not homophobic.

 

[DVC~OKW~96]

Well, I for one do not assume all hets are homophobes. I do venture from this board, from time to time, and don't always end up being offended by what I read.

Generally, I don't let it bother me. Sometimes (as with this thread) it gets to me, but if I got upset for every ignorant remark I heard or read, I'd be perpetually upset.

It really is to each her/his own. It's up to the individual to determine if they want to live a life of intolerance or acceptance.

 

[NCDisneyMom]

Someone else mentioned about children being unaware. A few years ago my DD asked me if we knew anyone who was gay. I said sure: so and so's sisters both have partners (and I named them). She was shocked. She always knew that they were each couples, but didn't realize that's what "gay" was. She just always took it for granted that they were couples and never questioned that it had a name. It's sad that it has to have a name other than love, commitment, family.

This is very true. My bff is a gay man. I also have two other friends, although they do not live local, who are a lesbian couple. My children have met the couple a few times, and of course are around my bff quite a bit. The fact that any of them were gay never came up, because they are simply my friends.

Last yearl, my 9yo son came home from school and told his little sister "You're so gay!". Of course, he heard it from someone at school, so I asked if he knew what gay is. We had the whole discussion about it, how there's nothing wrong with it, etc. I ended by asking him "Do you know anybody who is gay?". To which he replied "no". I then told him that is where he was wrong. I first told him about the couple, whom we had just had a visit with a couple of months prior. Then, I told him about my bff. He thought about it for a few seconds, made the realization that the other guy who used to come around was his boyfriend, said "OK" and moved on with his day.

The thing is, if WE do not make an issue out of it, then neither will our kids! To my kids, it is a non-issue, simply because it IS a non-issue. They are our friends, and that is all that matters.

And for the record, I would LOVE to go during gay days, if it weren't during the End-Of-Grade testing every year.