In other words, it depends on wha tthe meaning of the word "is" is.
Sorry, but the white house used as an excuse for waterboarding that they felt it did not fall under the "cruel, inhumane, or degrading" heading. Consequently, the Democrats in congress set up a bill specifically saying that you can not do this, this, this, or anything else not listed specifically in the Army Field Manual. That would be the same guide about which John McCain had previously said:
It's a flip-flop, plain and simple.
thats for the ARMY-the ARMY and the CIA are not the same thing...they are different.
Again Army amd CIA...different...McCain did not want the CIA, which is again different from the Army, as in not the same thing but different to have to follow the Army's rules. He has been consistent in that position since the time he WROTE the bill to prohibit torture.......McCain has told the White House on a NUMBER of occasions we need to say waterboarding is specifically prohibitied.
That must be one of the instances where McCain and Bush have always agreed too...on the waterboarding issue
oh, and just to review...the Army, and the CIA are NOT THE SAME AGENCY.
Did you learn that while you were serving?
I clicked on GINORMOUS above thinking it was a hyperlink to info on Hagee......
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Thanks. I didn't know that from my years in the military.
I'm willing to let McCain's statement stand without argument. He was answering a question about waterboarding and other forms of torture, and gave that response.
Wait...the CIA is still part of America, right?
) to specifically identify waterboarding as torture....
I don't much about this Hagee guy. But (and yes, there always is a big butt with me- hat tip Pee Wee Herman), I think it is possible that there is some "context blurring" with some of the fevered accounts of this guy's words. I can't imagine 16,000 Christians at a mega-curch in San Antonio buying into such hogwash if his statements and context are accurately captured in the media (given the media's sterling record in accurate reporting over the years I have my doubts.....
I'll withhold judgement for now....
I will look into it though
I see "truth" as the grimy unshaven operator of a wobbly "teeter totter" laughing wildly as it careens out of control.....
Even Machiavelli could have learned a thing or two from Turd Blossom.
In all honesty, I'm worried that your spin-fu might be stronger as well.
. The "pin controversy" was not brought up by the GOP, but rather by the Clinton campaign.
"I won't wear that pin" (US FLAG PIN.) Because blah blah blah blah.
I don't care why he won't wear one. False patriotism? Oh yeah, that's right your wife hasn't been proud of her country until last month. I guess it would make sense you wouldn't want to wear an American pin.
It's also an interesting observation that at the exact same time period that Obama was attending "a predominantly Muslim School in Indonesia", that John McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton. Just an observation. Not drawing any conclusions about that.
Although hardly considered grimy, I just had a vision of Mr. Toad's wild ride with Toady holding the RNC bylaws in one hand and the DNC bylaws in the other as he zips along.
I saw Ann Coulter ranting about McCain today once again. You know that almost make me like the guy.
Seriously, his tendency to flip flop and his hawkish tendencies bother me. That seems so different from the McCain I remember.
I like the guy, I just don't agree with his positions.
Had he not been so badly mauled by Rove et al., he might have won it all in 2000 . . . but, shoulda, coulda, woulda
Very old-line traditional with very old line traditional points of view. Me personally, I tend towards the "God is love" forgiving teachings of the "New Convenant" (Testament). Old ways die hard I suppose.
