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[DisWiz]

BTW, if you go check the thread referanced, another Diser did in fact scan in the brochure received which clearly indicated the '5 and under' age....

I don't think its clear about this at all.
Its just a scan of the cover.

It contains no information.
If we are to take it literally, it would mean no parents, no children over the age of 5 years (older siblings) and no other extended family members.
ONLY 5 and under.

Surely that is not what it means... but that's all it says.
It means nothing.
Disney PR completely blew this.

 

[WDW Poly Princess]

Drunken Pirates Evening Magic Hours would RULE! (No mornings... real pirates don't DO morning.)

I additionally vote for Solo Traveler Magic Hours! Low crowds, plus it's all single riders, so lines would fly!

 

[schlepsnort]

It's one hour, three times a week for a limited time. Get over it.

 

[blondeheroine]

Drunken Pirates Evening Magic Hours would RULE! (No mornings... real pirates don't DO morning.)

I additionally vote for Solo Traveler Magic Hours! Low crowds, plus it's all single riders, so lines would fly!

See, that's why I should be a pirate. I don't do mornings either.

And the solo traveler would be nice - even though I'm usually with people. Maybe an all adults party night? Hee. If you've ever seen how tired and cranky some kids (actually, sometimes the parents are worse!) are during evening EMH, you'll know this would be a great idea!

I also vote for a Jack Sparrow look alike night. Of course, a group of us DIS girls would have to be on hand to make sure they were up to a high standard.

 

[DisWiz]

It's one hour, three times a week for a limited time. Get over it.

How unkind and hurtful you are.

What have I done to you?

 

[DiszyDeanette]

How unkind and hurtful you are.

What have I done to you?

Wow. That's some amazingly thin skin there.

 

[Lisa0503]

How unkind and hurtful you are.

What have I done to you?

DisWis - When are you traveling to Disney? How many are traveling in your party? I don't understand what your issue/question is with this LOEMH? I don't think anyone is trying to be unkind or hurtful...

I do know that their had been HEATED debates on whom would/could/should attend this LOEMH before it actually started. People were concerned that it was going to turn into a regular EMH with only Fantasyland open and HUGE crowds. All reports since it started have put those fears to rest so it has not been an issue since. What is your concern about it??? Maybe we can help clear up your confusion...

 

[DisWiz]

Wow. That's some amazingly thin skin there.

I don't feel any kindness on this board.

Is there nobody with any compassion anymore?

 

[Lisa0503]

I don't feel any kindness on this board.

Is there nobody with any compassion anymore?

These boards can be full of opinionated people.... There are some very great and wonderful people here too. It can be very hard to interpret meaning with typed words sometimes. Try not to read to much emotions in posts... and realize what you type can be mis-interpreted as not being very compassionate as well...

 

[DisWiz]

DisWis - When are you traveling to Disney? How many are traveling in your party? I don't understand what your issue/question is with this LOEMH? I don't think anyone is trying to be unkind or hurtful...

I do know that their had been HEATED debates on whom would/could/should attend this LOEMH before it actually started. People were concerned that it was going to turn into a regular EMH with only Fantasyland open and HUGE crowds. All reports since it started have put those fears to rest so it has not been an issue since. What is your concern about it???

It has turned into a situation that remains unclear as to just who is invited to the EMH and who is kept out and how happy those who are included seem to be that others can be shunned.

There is no definite information of the requirements for admission.
But that's not what posters want to talk about.
Its become, we can go and you can't. So get over it.

 

[DiszyDeanette]

I don't feel any kindness on this board.

Is there nobody with any compassion anymore?

Compassion for what? Your severe mistreatment?? Seriously, you're kidding right?

 

[Lisa0503]

It has turned into a situation that remains unclear as to just who is invited to the EMH and who is kept out and how happy those who are included seem to be that others can be shunned.

There is no definite information of the requirements for admission.
But that's not what posters want to talk about.
Its become, we can go and you can't. So get over it.

Ok...Well in my opinion... It seems clear that the LOEMH is intended for children under 5. I think that we can all agree on that point from the cover of the brochure posted in the other thread. As per whom can attend with the child under 5... I totally agree THAT remains unclear. I think it is a pretty safe assumption that the parents of that child can attend as well. I also think it is a pretty safe assumption that older siblings would be able to attend with their family. Now as per extended family, that is unclear. I would guess it is up to the judgement of the CM at the entry gate. It is one thing if a family of 4 with one toddler and 2 grandparents want to attend and a Grand Gathering of 25 people and only 1 child is under 5 With that being said, all posts I have read on these boards from Disers who have attended the LOEMH have reported that all Resort Guests have been allowed entry to the park for the LOEMH (with the exception of the ONE report on the other thread) Now it could be that this was an isolated incident or that Disney has decided to enforce the policy that there must be a child under 5 in the party for entry. This does remain unclear but I would think all resort guests are allowed in until there have been more reports of resort guests without children being denied admission.

As per the "how happy those who are included seem to be that others can be shunned." I think that anyone with toddlers attending during this special time should be happy about it. I don't think they are happy that others are shunned, but realistically if all the resort guests went to the LOEMH, then there would be lines for the rides and no special time for the little ones with the characters. Little ones have a harder time with lines and heat (at least mine do) and this is one small way that Disney is trying to make it easier for the needs of families with young children. As a mother of a 1 & 2 year old, we need to be out of the parks and back to the resort by 2pm for afternoon naps which are REQUIRED at my childrens age. We will also be back at the resort by 7pm most nights to keep bedtimes as normal as possible so our time in the parks is limited. This LOEMH is not taking anything away from anyone else. The normal EMH are still being held. The posts you have made makes it seem like you are begrudging the preschool set this little time in the parks with the characters, although that may not be your intent...

You did not say when you are traveling or how many are in your party that makes you so concerned about this LOEMH though... That does make me wonder if you are just trying to stir the pot and get a debate going here though...

 

[MermaidMommy]

Now I am not a Disney vet or anything, I am still learning the ropes, but aren't EMH mornings and evenings a perk of staying at a WDW resort? Any special events (that I have found) cost extra to get in, Halloween, Christmas, etc. It would seem odd to me that Disney would gear an event that is primarily for children, most of whom, do not even have to have a paid admission to get in. I doubt they will sell so much in retail, etc that would compensate for the opening, staffing, etc of an entire land at the MK.
With that being said, I am not trying to take away anything from the little kids. I seriously do understand the logic behind it. I just am not sure if it is right to turn away other resorts guests. And according to Disney don't children above the age of 10 then have to pay adult prices? So it would seem to me if this event is geared towards younger children, and we assumed we could go by Disney ticketing standards, then children under the age of 10 should be admitted. And I wonder if those same parents that are against keeping older kids out would be ok with them being excluded from an evening EMH in say Adventureland for older kids. This might not even be an issue much longer because on the web site this "event" was through the 30th of Sept.
Anyway, again I am not being mean, just stating the other side!

To respond specifically to this post -- and not to "take sides" -- I don't think that Disney is trying to recoup their cost during the specific hour that it's open to the little ones. Rather, as others have posted, this is an extremely slow time of year for Disney. They can't effectively market to families with older children, since most of them will have just started school and likely wouldn't be coming to the World. Likewise college students. Adults already, ostensibly, have the freedom to vacation when they want to (and please, no one correct me about how you have to vacation at certain times of the year -- I'm speaking in generalities), and Disney is enticing them with Free Dining. So, if I own a theme park and have a couple months downtime, what do I do? I find a demographic that might be underrepresented and try to convince them that they'll have a great time if they come. A lot of people don't think that smal children will enjoy/benefit/remember, etc. WDW. Even the Unofficial Guide says not to take them if they're under 7 (naturally, I don't agree!). So, if I get these parents to come to WDW, stay at a WDW hotel, buy WDW souveniers. . . I'm going to make more money.

My point is that Disney is a big corporation, and they're trying to find a way increase attendence by appealing to groups who might not normally come. I would think the younger age limit is an acknowledgement that there are fewer rides these little ones can go on, and making those rides more available could help a family decide to take little Timmy or Susie now instead of waiting until they're 10 and can ride pretty much anything they want. And if I'm Disney, I want to get those families hooked on my theme parks as soon as possible. Besides, as one heartless poster put it, it's only 1 hour a day, three days a week, for a limited time, so who does it really hurt?

 

[blondeheroine]

To respond specifically to this post -- and not to "take sides" -- I don't think that Disney is trying to recoup their cost during the specific hour that it's open to the little ones. Rather, as others have posted, this is an extremely slow time of year for Disney. They can't effectively market to families with older children, since most of them will have just started school and likely wouldn't be coming to the World. Likewise college students. Adults already, ostensibly, have the freedom to vacation when they want to (and please, no one correct me about how you have to vacation at certain times of the year -- I'm speaking in generalities), and Disney is enticing them with Free Dining. So, if I own a theme park and have a couple months downtime, what do I do? I find a demographic that might be underrepresented and try to convince them that they'll have a great time if they come. A lot of people don't think that smal children will enjoy/benefit/remember, etc. WDW. Even the Unofficial Guide says not to take them if they're under 7 (naturally, I don't agree!). So, if I get these parents to come to WDW, stay at a WDW hotel, buy WDW souveniers. . . I'm going to make more money.

My point is that Disney is a big corporation, and they're trying to find a way increase attendence by appealing to groups who might not normally come. I would think the younger age limit is an acknowledgement that there are fewer rides these little ones can go on, and making those rides more available could help a family decide to take little Timmy or Susie now instead of waiting until they're 10 and can ride pretty much anything they want. And if I'm Disney, I want to get those families hooked on my theme parks as soon as possible. Besides, as one heartless poster put it, it's only 1 hour a day, three days a week, for a limited time, so who does it really hurt?

A very smart post, MermaidMommy. As long as they allow children in of variable ages (I'm not of the opinion that just because you exit preschool, you lose the magic), I don't see a problem with it (and as long as they keep EMH throughout the parks for all guests). I'm all for Disney bringing in new guests. Gets more people addicted and gives us the potential for more "adult" attractions!

 

[arielsleepingbeauty]

OK, just received firsthand info from somone who just came back a few days ago. My friend has 3 children. One is 7 and two are 8. They are very big for their age. They went in without a problem. No one gave them a hard time. They rode Dumbo with Dale and played games with Peter Pan and Wendy.
I think anyone can go in, but it really is geared towards small children. Honestly can you see a 16 year old boy playing duck duck goose with wendy and really enjoying it. Only Fantasyland is open so it's not like they are getting to ride on the other rides.

 

[flortlebap]

I'm starting to think this is a wind up.

Nobody can be THAT over sensitive.

 

[Schmeck]

Even after the brochure was scanned, people are coming to different conclusions - it says a big 5 on the cover, so wouldn't 5 yr olds get in too? But someone here said 'under 5'... and what if you turned 6 during your vacation?

I'm waiting for a restriction statement to be scanned, something to the effect "restricted to families with at least one child aged 5 or under. Proof of age needed at gate..."

 

[kribit]

This topic has been argued at length...I believe the thread was closed, either that or people got bored.

Funny, I hadn't read a thread where someone is in a while. Guess the board "is due" Should be interesting.

Happy travels

 

[Lisa0503]

I'm starting to think this is a wind up.

Nobody can be THAT over sensitive.

I think I agree!!!!

Even after the brochure was scanned, people are coming to different conclusions - it says a big 5 on the cover, so wouldn't 5 yr olds get in too? But someone here said 'under 5'... and what if you turned 6 during your vacation?

I'm waiting for a restriction statement to be scanned, something to the effect "restricted to families with at least one child aged 5 or under. Proof of age needed at gate..."

I highly doubt proof of age will be required so you are never going to see it. If they don't require two yrs old to prove they are 2 and not 3 to get free admission in the parks then they certainly would not require proof of age to go to a LOEMH for an hour... As MANY Disers have reported, they have been able to attend with older children and no children at all.

 

[Lisa0503]

This topic has been argued at length...I believe the thread was closed, either that or people got bored.

Funny, I hadn't read a thread where someone is in a while. Guess the board "is due" Should be interesting.

Happy travels

I agree this topic had been debated before Magical Beginings started. The threads were not closesd. I thought it was resolved for everyone once reports starting comming in from Disers who actually attended... Here is a link to the a couple of threads if anyone wants to read up (there may be more but these are the ones I had sub'ed to)

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1193016

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1157437