Who is George Soros? Why is he in the news so much?

[muffyn]

I had it bookmarked on my other computer but it crashed. Just now i tried to Google it and all I see are posts about that moron, Glenn Beck who apparently has been having tv shows about Soros.

obviously you have never listened to Glenn Beck , who is trying to enlighten a poorly informed public on how bad this country is being dragged down to ruin.

 

[moon]

obviously you have never listened to Glenn Beck , who is trying to enlighten a poorly informed public on how bad this country is being dragged down to ruin.

Glenn Beck? Is that the guy who said slavery started out "innocently" and wasn't really evil until the government stepped in, and also said he was sick and tired of the 9/11 families because "they were always complaining"?

That Glenn Beck?

 

[hambirg]

Only people who hate democracy and human rights would call Soros a domestic terrorist.

Ok. . .then he is a man who has made his money off of currency speculation. He drives entire country's monetary systems into the ground for his own personal profit. He is the man that broke the bank of England, he was convicted of felony insider trading in France. . oh yeah. . and he was an eastern European Jew Nazi sympathizer. . .he's a great guy.

 

[ChrisFL]

obviously you have never listened to Glenn Beck , who is trying to enlighten a poorly informed public on how bad this country is being dragged down to ruin.

wait, you actually take Glenn Beck seriously?

No wonder this country is going down the drain, when whackjobs like him get people to BELIEVE what he says

 

[hambirg]

His wiki page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros

That page has been so sanitized. . .even from a year ago. . kinda scary.

 

[hambirg]

wait, you actually take Glenn Beck seriously?

No wonder this country is going down the drain, when whackjobs like him get people to BELIEVE what he says

Forget Glenn Beck. . .it's a scary day when people are willing to take an obviously evil profiteers word over his actions.

ETA-as a 14yr old kid, he used to call rat out other jews and help to inventory their assets that were confiscated by the Nazi's. Does he give some bleeding heart explanation like that is the only way he was able to survive? No. He's quoted as saying that is how he learned to speculate. . .yep. . personally profit through the misery of others. He's a peach.

One more thing. . .forget talking heads like Glenn Beck, or other wealthy jerks trying to wield their might in a power grab like Murdoch. . .this is about Soros. If you look solely at the man and his history. . .he is an evil person. He has never done anything in his life that didn't profit him personally. I have a BA in International Interactions, and have been fascinated with him long before most people have ever even heard his name. He is not the liberal philanthropist people think he is. . .it's part of his game plan to profit from the biggest fish in the ocean. This is Superbowl Sunday. . .and he's smart enough to call all the right plays.

 

[NHdisneylover]

Briefly and basically, Soros made his billions trading currencies. He is controversial in many nations because some believe he was responsible for causing currencies to collapse. I know in parts of Asia he is not welcome because of the 1990s Asian currency crisis. In the UK he is not well thought of either. My understanding is Soros is thought to be involved in 4 currency crisis. And right now with the US in bad shape economically, and QE2 begun, people are concerned Soros has America's currency in his cross hairs.

Also here in the US, Soros is controversial for funding many left wing activists groups. In one of my favorite papers, Investors Business Daily, a few articles have been written about him and his funding - for example:

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAna...221922/George-Soros-War-Against-Fox-News.aspx

Thanks for giving an actual answer--and trying not to take sides in the process

 

[moon]

Forget Glenn Beck. . .it's a scary day when people are willing to take an obviously evil profiteers word over his actions.

ETA-as a 14yr old kid, he used to call rat out other jews and help to inventory their assets that were confiscated by the Nazi's. Does he give some bleeding heart explanation like that is the only way he was able to survive? No. He's quoted as saying that is how he learned to speculate. . .yep. . personally profit through the misery of others. He's a peach.
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Jewisn leaders disagree with you:

Beck attack on Soros outrages Jewish leaders

By Ron Kampeas · November 11, 2010

WASHINGTON (JTA) -- Jewish leaders are expressing outrage that Fox News Channel provocateur Glenn Beck has revived an unfounded claim that billionaire businessman and philanthropist George Soros as a child in Nazi-collaborating Hungary helped ship Jews to death camps.

Beck is running a series this week on his radio and TV shows portraying Soros as attempting to control the U.S. economy, and on Wednesday he attacked Soros' childhood during World War II.

"And George Soros used to go around with this anti-Semite and deliver papers to the Jews and confiscate their property and then ship them off," Beck said. "And George Soros was part of it. He would help confiscate the stuff. It was frightening.

"Here's a Jewish boy helping send the Jews to the death camps. And I am certainly not saying that George Soros enjoyed that, even had a choice. I mean, he's 14 years old. He was surviving. So I'm not making a judgment. That's between him and God. As a 14-year-old boy, I don't know what you would do."

http://jta.org/news/article/2010/11/11/2741705/jewh-leaders-outraged-at-beck-attack-on-soros

 

[hambirg]

Jewisn leaders disagree with you:

Beck attack on Soros outrages Jewish leaders

By Ron Kampeas · November 11, 2010

WASHINGTON (JTA) -- Jewish leaders are expressing outrage that Fox News Channel provocateur Glenn Beck has revived an unfounded claim that billionaire businessman and philanthropist George Soros as a child in Nazi-collaborating Hungary helped ship Jews to death camps.

Beck is running a series this week on his radio and TV shows portraying Soros as attempting to control the U.S. economy, and on Wednesday he attacked Soros' childhood during World War II.

"And George Soros used to go around with this anti-Semite and deliver papers to the Jews and confiscate their property and then ship them off," Beck said. "And George Soros was part of it. He would help confiscate the stuff. It was frightening.

"Here's a Jewish boy helping send the Jews to the death camps. And I am certainly not saying that George Soros enjoyed that, even had a choice. I mean, he's 14 years old. He was surviving. So I'm not making a judgment. That's between him and God. As a 14-year-old boy, I don't know what you would do."

http://jta.org/news/article/2010/11/11/2741705/jewh-leaders-outraged-at-beck-attack-on-soros

I have no idea what Beck has to say about Soros. . .I don't listen to Beck, no do I ever care to. My knowlegdge is from things that have been out there for 15+yrs. . long before the spin doctors have been trying to deal with this latest image problem. It is old news what Soros participated in as a kid. . .you will be hard pressed to find anything now that it's all been sanitized. But as late as last year, it was still out there.

 

[NHdisneylover]

I have no idea what Beck has to say about Soros. . .I don't listen to Beck, no do I ever care to. My knowlegdge is from things that have been out there for 15+yrs. . long before the spin doctors have been trying to deal with this latest image problem. It is old news what Soros participated in as a kid. . .you will be hard pressed to find anything now that it's all been sanitized. But as late as last year, it was still out there.

DO you have any links to credible sources?
What little I am seeing so far does not sound like this is credible, but I know i could be wrong.

 

[hambirg]

double post

 

[hambirg]

DO you have any links to credible sources?
What little I am seeing so far does not sound like this is credible, but I know i could be wrong.

Instead of taking an article that uses Media Matters, which is owned by Soros, as a source. . .how about an actual interview with the man. . him in his own words about the subject. . .conveniently before any spin was needed on it:


George Soros Interview On 60 Minutes

When the Nazis occupied Budapest in 1944, George Soros' father was a successful lawyer. He lived on an island in the Danube and liked to commute to work in a rowboat. But knowing there were problems ahead for the Jews, he decided to split his family up. He bought them forged papers and he bribed a government official to take 14-year-old George Soros in and swear that he was his Christian godson. But survival carried a heavy price tag. While hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews were being shipped off to the death camps, George Soros accompanied his phony godfather on his appointed rounds, confiscating property from the Jews.

(Vintage footage of Jews walking in line; man dragging little boy in line)

KROFT: (Voiceover) These are pictures from 1944 of what happened to George Soros' friends and neighbors.

(Vintage footage of women and men with bags over their shoulders walking; crowd by a train)

KROFT: (Voiceover) You're a Hungarian Jew…

Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Mm-hmm.

KROFT: (Voiceover) …who escaped the Holocaust…

(Vintage footage of women walking by train)

Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Mm-hmm.

(Vintage footage of people getting on train)

KROFT: (Voiceover) …by–by posing as a Christian.

Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Right.

(Vintage footage of women helping each other get on train; train door closing with people in boxcar)

KROFT: (Voiceover) And you watched lots of people get shipped off to the death camps.

Mr. SOROS: Right. I was 14 years old. And I would say that that's when my character was made.

KROFT: In what way?

Mr. SOROS: That one should think ahead. One should understand and–and anticipate events and when–when one is threatened. It was a tremendous threat of evil. I mean, it was a–a very personal experience of evil.

KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson.

Mr. SOROS: Yes. Yes.

KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.

Mr. SOROS: Yes. That's right. Yes.

KROFT: I mean, that's–that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?

Mr. SOROS: Not–not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don't–you don't see the connection. But it was–it created no–no problem at all.

KROFT: No feeling of guilt?

Mr. SOROS: No.

KROFT: For example that, 'I'm Jewish and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be there. I should be there.' None of that?

Mr. SOROS: Well, of course I c–I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn't be there, because that was–well, actually, in a funny way, it's just like in markets–that if I weren't there–of course, I wasn't doing it, but somebody else would–would–would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the–whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the–I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.

 

[NHdisneylover]

Instead of taking an article that uses Media Matters, which is owned by Soros, as a source. . .how about an actual interview with the man. . him in his own words about the subject. . .conveniently before any spin was needed on it:


George Soros Interview On 60 Minutes

When the Nazis occupied Budapest in 1944, George Soros' father was a successful lawyer. He lived on an island in the Danube and liked to commute to work in a rowboat. But knowing there were problems ahead for the Jews, he decided to split his family up. He bought them forged papers and he bribed a government official to take 14-year-old George Soros in and swear that he was his Christian godson. But survival carried a heavy price tag. While hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews were being shipped off to the death camps, George Soros accompanied his phony godfather on his appointed rounds, confiscating property from the Jews.

(Vintage footage of Jews walking in line; man dragging little boy in line)

KROFT: (Voiceover) These are pictures from 1944 of what happened to George Soros' friends and neighbors.

(Vintage footage of women and men with bags over their shoulders walking; crowd by a train)

KROFT: (Voiceover) You're a Hungarian Jew…

Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Mm-hmm.

KROFT: (Voiceover) …who escaped the Holocaust…

(Vintage footage of women walking by train)

Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Mm-hmm.

(Vintage footage of people getting on train)

KROFT: (Voiceover) …by–by posing as a Christian.

Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Right.

(Vintage footage of women helping each other get on train; train door closing with people in boxcar)

KROFT: (Voiceover) And you watched lots of people get shipped off to the death camps.

Mr. SOROS: Right. I was 14 years old. And I would say that that's when my character was made.

KROFT: In what way?

Mr. SOROS: That one should think ahead. One should understand and–and anticipate events and when–when one is threatened. It was a tremendous threat of evil. I mean, it was a–a very personal experience of evil.

KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson.

Mr. SOROS: Yes. Yes.

KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.

Mr. SOROS: Yes. That's right. Yes.

KROFT: I mean, that's–that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?

Mr. SOROS: Not–not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don't–you don't see the connection. But it was–it created no–no problem at all.

KROFT: No feeling of guilt?

Mr. SOROS: No.

KROFT: For example that, 'I'm Jewish and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be there. I should be there.' None of that?

Mr. SOROS: Well, of course I c–I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn't be there, because that was–well, actually, in a funny way, it's just like in markets–that if I weren't there–of course, I wasn't doing it, but somebody else would–would–would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the–whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the–I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.

I guess I am a little torn there. On the one hand, it seems only human to be wracked with guilt for such a thing. On the other hand, he was a 14 year old kid, and pretty much a pawn in his circumstances. I guess I would hope that everyone who was in the circumstance could come to grips with it in a way that had a positive rather than negative impact on the rest of his/her life.

His parents were able to pay to keep him safe ins a TERRIBLE situation. I think I would do anything I could to get my child to safety in such a situation, wouldn't you?
As part of that he accompanied someone else to do something pretty distasteful (though not nearly as bad as many other things that were going on at the time and place). What would you have had him do? Refuse to go along (and thereby likely be sent off to work camps to work himself to death, or possibly be killed--and also likely then betraying the person who was already risking his own life to help: remember you are talking about a 14 year old here--still pretty young).
I don't see, in what you posted, that he is saying it was a good thing that these things happened or that he wanted to (or even actively did) take away people's possessions. Only that it is what it was and he was relatively powerless in the situation and he is not going to be eaten up with guilt over something like that which he had no control over.
As far as the planning ahead comment-- I am not reading that as him saying everyone could have and others somehow brought this tragedy on themselves. More, he is saying it taught him how valuable it was to always look for the worst case scenario and try to be ready. It sounds to me like he is saying that shaped who he is (how could it not) and he was bale to get some value out of it instead of letting it ruin his entire life by being consumed by guilt forever after--not that he is saying he wanted to harm other Jews or took any pleasure in it or anything.

 

[HOGFAN]

If he is responsible for breaking countries, he should go to jail. I dont know exactly under what charges. If he breaks this country more than a few people will be calling for his head.

 

[luvavacation]

Putting aside what George Soros has or has not done in the banking industry, I just have to say that regarding his time during the war, no one here, in
America, that has not lived through having your homeland invaded and fearing for you life, can judge his actions, or the actions of others during that time.

People in peace time, and the decisions they make, are different than people in wartime, making decisions that effect your life and the lives of your loved ones. When you see buildings blown up around you, and tanks coming down your street shooting into random homes, girls being raped in the street and everyone fearing for their own children so no one goes to help, these things make you immune to the atrocities around you. While one that has never lived through this can say, "Oh, I would never do anything like what so-and-so did", until you live through it, you can not say that.

Going to bed every night, not knowing if the bombs will drop on your home while you sleep, not knowing if a family member will be taken while walking to the store, not knowing if your friend down the street will still be your friend tomorrow or will have turned on you, well it all weighs upon an adult, and most definitely on a child. Children that grow up in wartime, in a country that has soldiers fighing in the streets and bombs falling on homes, psychologically will not be the same as most children growing up in America that, thank God, have never experienced this.

So what George Soros did at 14, and the way it impacted him, is too much for me to judge, since I did not live the horrors he did. However, my parents, aunts, uncles, grandparents, etc. did live those horrors, and I will never judge them for any choices they made, either, even if I believe that I would not have made those same choices. Until you live through it, you just don't know if the choice was justified.

His banking practices, for me, are a different matter. But his survival experiences at 14, well for those I will not judge him.

 

[rie'smom]

Putting aside what George Soros has or has not done in the banking industry, I just have to say that regarding his time during the war, no one here, in
America, that has not lived through having your homeland invaded and fearing for you life, can judge his actions, or the actions of others during that time.

People in peace time, and the decisions they make, are different than people in wartime, making decisions that effect your life and the lives of your loved ones. When you see buildings blown up around you, and tanks coming down your street shooting into random homes, girls being raped in the street and everyone fearing for their own children so no one goes to help, these things make you immune to the atrocities around you. While one that has never lived through this can say, "Oh, I would never do anything like what so-and-so did", until you live through it, you can not say that.

Going to bed every night, not knowing if the bombs will drop on your home while you sleep, not knowing if a family member will be taken while walking to the store, not knowing if your friend down the street will still be your friend tomorrow or will have turned on you, well it all weighs upon an adult, and most definitely on a child. Children that grow up in wartime, in a country that has soldiers fighing in the streets and bombs falling on homes, psychologically will not be the same as most children growing up in America that, thank God, have never experienced this.

So what George Soros did at 14, and the way it impacted him, is too much for me to judge, since I did not live the horrors he did. However, my parents, aunts, uncles, grandparents, etc. did live those horrors, and I will never judge them for any choices they made, either, even if I believe that I would not have made those same choices. Until you live through it, you just don't know if the choice was justified.

His banking practices, for me, are a different matter. But his survival experiences at 14, well for those I will not judge him.

Well I think it's chilling. 14 years old is not 5 years old. He confiscated Jewish property, saw poeple go off to their deaths and he has no guilt and equates it to the stock market? He's missing something and sounds like a sociopath.

 

[FlightlessDuck]

I sw the title of the OP, and my initial reaction was "oh, this isn't going to go well".

 

[Mermaid02]

Instead of taking an article that uses Media Matters, which is owned by Soros, as a source. . .how about an actual interview with the man. . him in his own words about the subject. . .conveniently before any spin was needed on it:


George Soros Interview On 60 Minutes

When the Nazis occupied Budapest in 1944, George Soros' father was a successful lawyer. He lived on an island in the Danube and liked to commute to work in a rowboat. But knowing there were problems ahead for the Jews, he decided to split his family up. He bought them forged papers and he bribed a government official to take 14-year-old George Soros in and swear that he was his Christian godson. But survival carried a heavy price tag. While hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews were being shipped off to the death camps, George Soros accompanied his phony godfather on his appointed rounds, confiscating property from the Jews.

(Vintage footage of Jews walking in line; man dragging little boy in line)

KROFT: (Voiceover) These are pictures from 1944 of what happened to George Soros' friends and neighbors.

(Vintage footage of women and men with bags over their shoulders walking; crowd by a train)

KROFT: (Voiceover) You're a Hungarian Jew…

Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Mm-hmm.

KROFT: (Voiceover) …who escaped the Holocaust…

(Vintage footage of women walking by train)

Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Mm-hmm.

(Vintage footage of people getting on train)

KROFT: (Voiceover) …by–by posing as a Christian.

Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Right.

(Vintage footage of women helping each other get on train; train door closing with people in boxcar)

KROFT: (Voiceover) And you watched lots of people get shipped off to the death camps.

Mr. SOROS: Right. I was 14 years old. And I would say that that's when my character was made.

KROFT: In what way?

Mr. SOROS: That one should think ahead. One should understand and–and anticipate events and when–when one is threatened. It was a tremendous threat of evil. I mean, it was a–a very personal experience of evil.

KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson.

Mr. SOROS: Yes. Yes.

KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.

Mr. SOROS: Yes. That's right. Yes.

KROFT: I mean, that's–that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?

Mr. SOROS: Not–not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don't–you don't see the connection. But it was–it created no–no problem at all.

KROFT: No feeling of guilt?

Mr. SOROS: No.

KROFT: For example that, 'I'm Jewish and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be there. I should be there.' None of that?

Mr. SOROS: Well, of course I c–I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn't be there, because that was–well, actually, in a funny way, it's just like in markets–that if I weren't there–of course, I wasn't doing it, but somebody else would–would–would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the–whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the–I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.

WOW!

Well I think it's chilling. 14 years old is not 5 years old. He confiscated Jewish property, saw poeple go off to their deaths and he has no guilt and equates it to the stock market? He's missing something and sounds like a sociopath.

I agree. At 14 your psyche,ego and superego are formed. I think he was a sociopath. I think he is a sociopath. There are some that believe he was behind the financial collapse of 2008.

I agree with both of you. He sounds like a dangerous person who would do ANYTHING to get ahead.

When I said I didn't care earlier, I think I was wrong.

 

[hambirg]

WOW!
I agree with both of you. He sounds like a dangerous person who would do ANYTHING to get ahead.

When I said I didn't care earlier, I think I was wrong.

This and what the other PPs have said.

I am in no way saying he didn't do what he had to to survive when he was 14. I don't think anybody is holding that against him. War is hell. My ex was raised by his grandparents. His grandpa was a German soldier during WWII and his grandma was raising 3 girls (2 being a set of twins). I have heard first hands the stories of what people did to survive.

What I find disturbing is that he is able to say, "I don't feel bad. Those things would have happened anyway." I don't think that is normal. And then he goes on to comparing it to the markets. It's the same attitude. "Eh. .. I don't feel bad. I was just profiting off of the misery of others. If it wasn't me, somebody else would have come along and done it." I think it is sociopathic. In fact, here's a interesting sight that describes traits of a sociopath. . .I think dear George fits most of them perfectly.

http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html