Who else is glad they do NOT have a trip planned right now?

[snoopy352]

the ADR things I've never heard of before so I don't know if that's true. I don't think that is true at all. You will not be stuck with them you can still get a card if you want magic bands are just going to be the default. They have been working fine lately most if not all problems are fixed. What you read on here is not always true.

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3222630

truly hope you are right but this ADR thing sounds legit and problematic.

 

[maxiesmom]

No, it's not flawed, you're just misunderstanding.

My analogy was meant to show that people can decide if something will work for them or not without trying it. It's condescending and rude to imply otherwise. You like it, good for you. Why is it such a big deal if people don't, even if they haven't physically used it?

No your analogy would only work if they took a dish you liked and replaced it with something else, and you refused to try the new dish.

It is only a big deal because those who are certain they won't like FP+ are making it a huge deal. If you don't want to even try it, then more room in the parks for me. But the phrase cutting off your nose to spite your face comes to mind, when you refuse to take a trip because of something you haven't tried, but have made up your mind ahead of time to dislike. You are only hurting yourself.

 

[rteetz]

Most reports since AK and MK went FP+ only has been very good. No bad lines or anything. Cast members have been helpful and actually standby lines have been done as of this past week. People need to give the new system a try before they start criticizing everything. I read all of these threads and look into all the known info. I follow people on twitter and Facebook who are in disney all the time. I talk to friends who have used it most have said it's been good it is different but change was going to come sooner or later people need to realize that. There was a time before FP at all and people did just fine in the parks. My last vacation in 2012 I only used 3 FPs my entire vacation and I went in July everything else was standby lines. People should not cancel vacations just over FP.

 

[rteetz]

Shame on these positive people. Dont they realize that the FP+ system will be the downfall of Disney? Don't they realize the following about FP+ 1. Ride rationing. Disney will only let you see 3 attractions with FP+ and God forbid you would ever think about using the SB line. It is insane to wait over 30 minutes for a ride. But it is sane to wait an hour or more to get an autograph of someone dressed up like a character. Priorities! 2. Big Brother controlling them with MBs 3. Yield Management 4. That you can only see attractions with FP+. 5. New Coke 6. Unfair!!! 7. Punitive 8. It will drive away droves to Universal. 9. Park Hopping will be worthless 10. Rope Drop will no longer be an advantage. 11. Its just in testing. What you liked before, you will not like in the future due to changes. 12. FP+ will increase standby lines. 13. Magic Bands are crap and do not work most of the time 14. FP+ will cause people to be on their phones more in the parks 15. MDE is broke! I think you positive folks need to listen more to the wisdom of those who do not like the new system. No Dole Whips for You!

are you serious or sarcastic I can't tell? But everything you said is completely off if your serious. I don't even know what to say to this because its so wrong. If your serious this post is almost unbelievable. And if you really think people are going to be driven to universal thats another crazy thing. There was a time before FP and disney is going to do what they can to get people to stay on property that makes them more money. Disney is a company that's trying to make a profit if you were running a company like this you would want people to stay on your property not others. Magic bands work almost all the time they have been fine. MDE is truly the biggest problem but even that has been much better as of late. People will still go to rope drop and it will still have an advantage to off site guests because they can get there early to schedule FP+. Park hopping will change but rumors are disney is going to allow you to park hop with FP+ soon.

 

[rteetz]

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3222630 truly hope you are right but this ADR thing sounds legit and problematic.

I follow all the recent news in FP+ and on here is the first I've heard of that ADR thing.

 

[butterfly71076]

Shame on these positive people. Dont they realize that the FP+ system will be the downfall of Disney?

Don't they realize the following about FP+

1. Ride rationing. Disney will only let you see 3 attractions with FP+ and God forbid you would ever think about using the SB line. It is insane to wait over 30 minutes for a ride. But it is sane to wait an hour or more to get an autograph of someone dressed up like a character. Priorities!
2. Big Brother controlling them with MBs
3. Yield Management
4. That you can only see attractions with FP+.
5. New Coke
6. Unfair!!!
7. Punitive
8. It will drive away droves to Universal.
9. Park Hopping will be worthless
10. Rope Drop will no longer be an advantage.
11. Its just in testing. What you liked before, you will not like in the future due to changes.
12. FP+ will increase standby lines.
13. Magic Bands are crap and do not work most of the time
14. FP+ will cause people to be on their phones more in the parks
15. MDE is broke!

I think you positive folks need to listen more to the wisdom of those who do not like the new system.

No Dole Whips for You!

Literally, lol'ed!!

 

[morethananyonex]

No your analogy would only work if they took a dish you liked and replaced it with something else, and you refused to try the new dish.

It is only a big deal because those who are certain they won't like FP+ are making it a huge deal. If you don't want to even try it, then more room in the parks for me. But the phrase cutting off your nose to spite your face comes to mind, when you refuse to take a trip because of something you haven't tried, but have made up your mind ahead of time to dislike. You are only hurting yourself.

Refused to try the new dish because it's something you know you don't like AND you need to pay big bucks for the privilege to do so. Or did I miss people turning down a free Disney trip because of FP+? People are allowed to decide if something is no longer worth it to them, even if you don't agree with the reasons. Disney trips are very expensive, why would someone have to blow thousands of dollars just to know for sure they don't like something?

For the record, I am a "hater" of FP+, however we are going in a few weeks and I do see some benefits to it that FP- didn't have. The ability to not have to run around and the ability to choose your own time are awesome. The restrictions make it difficult for my family, but overall Disney is still (hopefully) worth it. For some people it's not. There's nothing wrong with that.

 

[monkistan]

I have to say that, so far, i'm not thrilled with FP+, or the idea of magic bands (actually i'm going to stick with the RFID card instead as I don't want to wear anything on my wrist all week). I'm not psyched about the amount of minutia it seems is going into planning my trip next month.

it's excessive, and a bit annoying, and it doesn't seem to work very well. the website is pathetic.

that said, i can't wait to be down there. i can't wait to be on vacation and ride the rides and see what happens. at the worst, i'm still in disney world, which beats the heck out of being in a cubicle, whether i can ride space mountain once or 4 times.

not sure what this trip will look like, but then again, i'll be able to ride what i want to, i'll find a way to make it work. it's just going to be different than what i'm used to recently.

 

[practicallyperfect77]

all the rules are pretty much done changing you still get FP+ if your offsite just as if you were off site before FP+. Instead of going to the different rides to get your FP you just go to a kiosk and get all three at once.

I know I can get 3 at a kiosk but I have no clue what those 3 will be. I have no doubt there will be FP+ available but not sure if it will be for rides like Stitch. I would also love to see off site to be able to reserve in advance. In my opinion that is something that can change. Park hopping can also change and maybe even the ability to pull additional day of passes. Or maybe they will let you buy some. I don't think what we have now is the final product...at least I hope not! If it is, I will wait til I can save up enough money to stay onsite or until the kiddos are a little older and will be able to make it in the park longer. Not so worried about me, but I want my niece and nephews to have a magical time!

 

[rteetz]

I know I can get 3 at a kiosk but I have no clue what those 3 will be. I have no doubt there will be FP+ available but not sure if it will be for rides like Stitch. I would also love to see off site to be able to reserve in advance. In my opinion that is something that can change. Park hopping can also change and maybe even the ability to pull additional day of passes. Or maybe they will let you buy some. I don't think what we have now is the final product...at least I hope not! If it is, I will wait til I can save up enough money to stay onsite or until the kiddos are a little older and will be able to make it in the park longer. Not so worried about me, but I want my niece and nephews to have a magical time!

from reports I've heard most people have been able to get ride they want. I don't think the off site thing will change it could but disney is going to use that just like EMH. I wish it were true that you could get more but I just don't see it happening. What we have now is definitely the final product but they are getting closer. I have managed to work without FP in the past I think it can still be done.

 

[mejo]

I have 3 trips planned for this year and cannot wait to be there. I love going to WDW, I love the ambiance, the attractions, all of it. I may have to change somethings about how I tour but I don't care, I will make it work and still have a blast.
Besides that I am pretty sure that where ever you go on Vacations things change.

 

[KatieCharlotte]

I am very happy that I am going to the Magic Kingdom this spring.

I am also very happy that I am not investing all our spring vacation $$ and time into WDW this year.

I will not stop visiting Disney entirely, but I will make future decisions about how much time and money to spend at Disney based on how the changes will affect our experiences. Not because I'm boycotting Disney or because FP was the only thing we liked about Disney, but because there're so many vacations competing for our time and money and the Disney experience has to a step above, a truly magical experience, for me to sacrifice seeing new places and having new experiences.

 

[skater]

I enjoyed the magic bands - they were fun for me. I do not like the new fp system at all. I wish Disney had went in a different direction with that billion dollars. I'll even go so far as to say I think they owe me something each trip for the money I spend . But I would never be glad to not have a trip planned. I'd rather be a guinea pig than not get to go.

 

[practicallyperfect77]

Most reports since AK and MK went FP+ only has been very good. No bad lines or anything. Cast members have been helpful and actually standby lines have been done as of this past week. People need to give the new system a try before they start criticizing everything. I read all of these threads and look into all the known info. I follow people on twitter and Facebook who are in disney all the time. I talk to friends who have used it most have said it's been good it is different but change was going to come sooner or later people need to realize that. There was a time before FP at all and people did just fine in the parks. My last vacation in 2012 I only used 3 FPs my entire vacation and I went in July everything else was standby lines. People should not cancel vacations just over FP.

I'm looking forward to reports of MK lines this coming MLK b-day weekend and Presidents Day as well. Fairly certain this is pretty low crowd time right now.

And of course there was a time before FP_ when everyone stood standby. I don't really see how that is super relevant now considering FP_ has been around for I believe 13 years. That's quite awhile for people to get used to a system that allowed them to get the biggest bang for their buck. People have different goals when they go on vacation. I go to the beach to relax, but I to Disney to ride rides. My experience is less b/c of FP+. If you love the system great. I can see the appeal for folks that don't want to RD, are fine standing in lines, just like to soak up. The atmosphere, etc. It just doesn't work for everyone. I for one am not willing to invest thousands of dollars until I know what I'm working with.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

I'm looking forward to reports of MK lines this coming MLK b-day weekend and Presidents Day as well. Fairly certain this is pretty low crowd time right now.

MLK weekend at MK is not going to be more people than DAK at Christmas. It will be fine.

 

[mom2rtk]

Or, you know, you could give the new system a try.

Who are you to decide whether someone can risk multiple thousands of dollars on something they think they won't like? It's not like telling them to eat their vegetables.

I am GLAD that we don't have a trip to WDW planned for the foreseeable future - at least until the dust settles on this mess. But we are also GLAD that we have a trip scheduled to DLR in a few weeks.

I will be snagging a few more paper FPs to put in our personal time capsule.

I think I have an extra fastpass or two from our December DLR trip. Think they'll take them late? I could send them your way?

We are happy to be plotting a return to DLR ourselves this year. We love parades. And I'm sure we will love the mine coaster. But they aren't going anywhere. I need more dust to clear.

Oh...... and DLR is pretty awesome in its own right. And they don't even ration rides.

 

[morethananyonex]

I'm looking forward to reports of MK lines this coming MLK b-day weekend and Presidents Day as well. Fairly certain this is pretty low crowd time right now.

And of course there was a time before FP_ when everyone stood standby. I don't really see how that is super relevant now considering FP_ has been around for I believe 13 years. That's quite awhile for people to get used to a system that allowed them to get the biggest bang for their buck. People have different goals when they go on vacation. I go to the beach to relax, but I to Disney to ride rides. My experience is less b/c of FP+. If you love the system great. I can see the appeal for folks that don't want to RD, are fine standing in lines, just like to soak up. The atmosphere, etc. It just doesn't work for everyone. I for one am not willing to invest thousands of dollars until I know what I'm working with.

I don't get that logic either. If Disney decided to close to doors to AK, would it be no big deal because there was a time before it, and people still went to Disney then? I mean AK has been around about as long as FP-, so how attached could people possibly be, right?

 

[rteetz]

I'm looking forward to reports of MK lines this coming MLK b-day weekend and Presidents Day as well. Fairly certain this is pretty low crowd time right now. And of course there was a time before FP_ when everyone stood standby. I don't really see how that is super relevant now considering FP_ has been around for I believe 13 years. That's quite awhile for people to get used to a system that allowed them to get the biggest bang for their buck. People have different goals when they go on vacation. I go to the beach to relax, but I to Disney to ride rides. My experience is less b/c of FP+. If you love the system great. I can see the appeal for folks that don't want to RD, are fine standing in lines, just like to soak up. The atmosphere, etc. It just doesn't work for everyone. I for one am not willing to invest thousands of dollars until I know what I'm working with.

I understand its a long time but people need to understand change is going to come at some point. This is what disney felt was necessary so they did it. Not everyone is going to like what disney does but you can't please everyone it's not possible. Disney isn't all about rides either disney is an experience I go to ride rides yes but I live the atmosphere the resorts, the restaurants, shows and characters. If I just want rides I go to six flags. I understand where your coming from but the complaints from the dis boards make up a very small amount of what is in disney every day so what we say isn't going to affect what disney does.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

Who are you to decide whether someone can risk multiple thousands of dollars on something they think they won't like? It's not like telling them to eat their vegetables.

Not even remotely the same thing. I KNOW they like the product. The only thing that's changed is you get a few less fastpasses.

 

[practicallyperfect77]

from reports I've heard most people have been able to get ride they want. I don't think the off site thing will change it could but disney is going to use that just like EMH. I wish it were true that you could get more but I just don't see it happening. What we have now is definitely the final product but they are getting closer. I have managed to work without FP in the past I think it can still be done.

Absolutely it can be done. And if it was just myself I wouldn't hesitate. But having my sis and her family is something I don't have experience with. I'm single - no kiddos but 3 will be on my next trip. I don't think it's absurd that I'm holding off.

Since Disneys goal was to get people locked into their trips, I can see the advantage of having off site per book. I'm positive the percentage of people with a car is greater off site vs on so those are the folks that can leave more easily. And I know Disney wants to drive up occupancy rates too....this is normal goal to have but I think they still need the offsiters too.