Whitney Houston dead

[JessicaR]

qft

qft - quoted for truth?

 

[happygirl]

qft - quoted for truth?

I was wondering what it mean to,

 

[dngnb8]

I feel the worst for their daughter, as she has had to read and hear so many horrible things about her parents, and now this just adds even more to her already fragile state.

Her daughter is a coke head too you know....

 

[dngnb8]

qft - quoted for truth?

Yep

 

[happygirl]

Yep

I was way off lol

 

[Rabscuttle]

What a circus. Whitneys death mimics her life. A media circus with no substance

Actually it could have been a circus. Her family was offered a stadium in which to conduct the funeral that would have accommodated thousands of fans. Instead they chose to return to their church family and Whitney's roots, keeping it as private as is possible for any celebrity. The service was tasteful, and honored Jesus. Someone at officiating said that "We are going to Church today", and everyone that was paying attention, went to church. It was clear that Whitney loved her Lord and HE loves her. That's all the legacy any of us can hope for.

 

[Tiger926]

Her daughter is a coke head too you know....

What's your point? And why did you reference my quote?

Fail to see how this has to do with her grieving the sudden loss of her mom. If it's true, then she also needs to be watched, as she could also end up in a bad state, like her mom.

Regardless, her mom died very suddenly in a tragic way, so the girl is suffering right now.

Tiger

 

[dngnb8]

What's your point? And why did you reference my quote?

Fail to see how this has to do with her grieving the sudden loss of her mom. If it's true, then she also needs to be watched, as she could also end up in a bad state, like her mom.

Regardless, her mom died very suddenly in a tragic way, so the girl is suffering right now.

Tiger

her mom died like an addict dies. The only reason why there is such and outpouring is because she had pipes and money. Funny, I dont see flags at half mast for an addict that dies in the gutter.

I dont think her mom or anyone in the family is a hero and deserves the type of recognition true heroes get. The kid is an addict just like mom.

Its a disgrace to every fallen soldier. its a disgrace to the likes of the people in the Twin Towers, JFK among so many others.

Fame<> hero


Half mast is for heroes

 

[Tiger926]

her mom died like an addict dies. The only reason why there is such and outpouring is because she had pipes and money. Funny, I dont see flags at half mast for an addict that dies in the gutter.

I dont think her mom or anyone in the family is a hero and deserves the type of recognition true heroes get. The kid is an addict just like mom.

Its a disgrace to every fallen soldier. its a disgrace to the likes of the people in the Twin Towers, JFK among so many others.

Fame<> hero


Half mast is for heroes

Yeah, got all of that. Already said I don't agree with the half mast flags either.

But none of that is relevant to the fact that a young lady has lost her mom. She is still alllowed to grieve, or are you saying because Whitney was an addict, and supposedly so is Bobby Christina, that she cannot grieve?

None of that is relevant...grief is a physical and psychological process that we go through during loss. It doesn't have stipulations and rules. None of us know what is going through that young girl's head...

Tiger

 

[DebbieB]

Her daughter is a coke head too you know....

If that is true, hopefully she will get the help she needs. She and everyone around her should now realize it's not just a game.

I was talking to my aunt tonight and she was telling me about a friend of hers that has a serious drinking problem. She has been sober since New Years and she told my aunt this week that this story hit her that it could have been her dead in the tub because she frequently would be drunk and take a bath. Hopefully it will make people realize how serious drug (including prescription drugs) and alcohol problems are and to get help. Plus not enable those around you.

 

[dngnb8]

Yeah, got all of that. Already said I don't agree with the half mast flags either.

But none of that is relevant to the fact that a young lady has lost her mom. She is still alllowed to grieve, or are you saying because Whitney was an addict, and supposedly so is Bobby Christina, that she cannot grieve?

None of that is relevant...grief is a physical and psychological process that we go through during loss. It doesn't have stipulations and rules. None of us know what is going through that young girl's head...

Tiger

im sorry, where did I say Bobbi wasnt allowed to grieve?

 

[dngnb8]

If that is true, hopefully she will get the help she needs. She and everyone around her should now realize it's not just a game.

I was talking to my aunt tonight and she was telling me about a friend of hers that has a serious drinking problem. She has been sober since New Years and she told my aunt this week that this story hit her that it could have been her dead in the tub because she frequently would be drunk and take a bath. Hopefully it will make people realize how serious drug (including prescription drugs) and alcohol problems are and to get help. Plus not enable those around you.

There are pics on the net of her snorting. Not much of an "if" to it

 

[TLSnell1981]

Yes, but that doesn't change what I said.

I wasn't disputing anything. I find it sad, they couldn't put the animosity aside... for at least one day. I feel very, very sorry for Bobbi Kristina. She just lost her mother and needs their love and support...more than ever. Instead, they're creating more drama and instability in her life.

 

[Tiger926]

im sorry, where did I say Bobbi wasnt allowed to grieve?

Well, you took my quote where I said I felt bad for her having to read horrible things about her parents, especially now as she is in a fragile state as she is grieving the sudden loss of her mom, and you responded with how she is a coke head.

What was your point in doing that? What connection were you trying to make between her grieving the sudden loss of her mom if not to say that since she too is an addict, she shouldn't be surprised at what happened to her mom.

I don't want to put words in your mouth, but if you could explain your reasoning behind it, than it might make more sense as to why you chose my quote and responded to it in the way that you did.

Tiger

 

[SouthJersey]

There are pics on the net of her snorting. Not much of an "if" to it

Yeah I mean, it's ashame. What do you expect though? Some parent, huh? Stay on drugs infront of your kid for the entire time she's been alive, great parent. If it wasn't for entourage, managers, family and fans, she would've died long ago if she was an average person. That's the part that bothers me the most. It's one thing if she failed fighting her addiction, but how do you not give a real effort to get clean?

Her daughter has a problem now because of her mother's inability to seek help for herself, her career, and most importantly her daughter. It's a learned behavior. Damn, my mom does drugs and drinks heavily, and she has it all!

 

[cornflake]

Yeah I mean, it's ashame. What do you expect though? Some parent, huh? Stay on drugs infront of your kid for the entire time she's been alive, great parent. If it wasn't for entourage, managers, family and fans, she would've died long ago if she was an average person. That's the part that bothers me the most. It's one thing if she failed fighting her addiction, but how do you not give a real effort to get clean?


Her daughter has a problem now because of her mother's inability to seek help for herself, her career, and most importantly her daughter. It's a learned behavior. Damn, my mom does drugs and drinks heavily, and she has it all!

Again, where do you get she didn't give an effort to get clean? She apparently recently was clean for a good stretch, she's been to rehab numerous times, she went to rehab with her daughter for goodness sakes.

Are you getting "not give a real effort to get clean?" because she didn't end up staying clean?

It's also not just learned behaviour, no. It's something with a strong genetic component, physical component and behavioural component.

 

[Soldier's*Sweeties]

Her daughter has a problem now because of her mother's inability to seek help for herself, her career, and most importantly her daughter. It's a learned behavior. Damn, my mom does drugs and drinks heavily, and she has it all!

I am proof that this is NOT true.

My parents are addicts. I am not...I learned how NOT to live my life from them. Not how be an addict.

Sometimes that is the way it goes, but many people choose to rise above. It's a choice...pick up the drugs or don't...And it is an excuse to say, "Well...I don't know any better! My parents did it, what did you expect???"

 

[okeydokey]

Actually it could have been a circus. Her family was offered a stadium in which to conduct the funeral that would have accommodated thousands of fans. Instead they chose to return to their church family and Whitney's roots, keeping it as private as is possible for any celebrity. The service was tasteful, and honored Jesus. Someone at officiating said that "We are going to Church today", and everyone that was paying attention, went to church. It was clear that Whitney loved her Lord and HE loves her. That's all the legacy any of us can hope for.

Well said.

 

[cm8]

OK....I GET IT! She was a drug addict. She didn't fit some people's standards of conduct. She didn't "try hard enough" to overcome the drugs. Gotcha. But you know what? I loved her music. Espcially her early stuff. I was a fat, white girl who loved to sing and I loved her music. Her song the Greatest Love of All got me through some dark hours. During my parent's divorce, my Mom took me to her concert when she couldn't afford it because she knew that her music made me happy. I respected that she wore a cross and spoke of her love of Jesus. So yes, I feel bad that she died. I know she wasted her talent and abused her body. But she also brought a lot of joy and she brought light to some dark days of mine. And yes, I shed more than one tear as they carried her casket out of the church to the sound of her voice. I appreciate that soldiers sacrifice their lives and that innocent people die every day, but those facts don't mean that people can't mourn what a famous person may have meant to them in some small way.

 

[Soldier's*Sweeties]

Again, where do you get she didn't give an effort to get clean? She apparently recently was clean for a good stretch, she's been to rehab numerous times, she went to rehab with her daughter for goodness sakes.

Are you getting "not give a real effort to get clean?" because she didn't end up staying clean?

It's also not just learned behaviour, no. It's something with a strong genetic component, physical component and behavioural component.

I think he is referring to something he read saying she only did outpatient therapy, and not "real" rehab.

But...Depending on the program, they can have the same success rate.