Which would you pay off first?

I just finished paying off DVC and then my car died. We weren't planning to replace it for a few more months.

Well I got another car so I have a bit over $7000 in a loan. However the interest rate is only 4.99%.


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Now did I say I didn't have an emergency fund? You know I can't find that, probably because I actually DO have an emergency fund. I just didn't want to completely drain it to not have to finance the car. /truncated...

I just wanted to pop in and suggest you also throw more to your emergency fund, whatever your decision to payoff first (I agree w/ most pp though..car).

You say that the $7000 you would have spent on the car would have drained your emergency fund. A good emergency fund should carry you 6 months at least, $7000 doesn't seem to be enough, but I don't know all the bills either. Just a suggestion, from an older gal, been there done that, thought I'd always have enough but never saw the catastrophe ahead.

I used to own DVC, it was a good buy at the time. We lived in AL, and took alot of weekends to drive down. Divorce, back to NJ, add in flight cost & time unpaid off work (self employed) and the fact I don't need the space or amenities of DVC (though lovely). My annual dues were twice as much as what I'd spend on a room for one week. So it made financial sense for that to be earning interest for me instead of just forcing me to take a vacation every year or two in accommodations I didn't need. Alot of the "DVC saves money" is true, but only if you would have taken that exact same trip out of pocket. Just because it saved money for what you are getting doesn't mean it saves money on what you normally would have spent...if that makes sense. I wouldn't. DD and I don't need more than a room. That is a purely personal choice though.

I made a profit though, b/c we bought in very early, didn't finance and at the time of sale, OKW was very desired and going for a good $ per point.
 
I don't intend to own a home yet. Not for a few more years. Never intended to until I was ready to have kids so that I would actually want a yard etc. I just figured I should probably start saving for it.

Oh and the student loans in deferment comment from the poster above. They aren't in deferment for financial reasons I could make the payments easily (they would only be $250 a month with the standard plan and I have at least $700 to pay per month, even with still taking vacations) However you automatically get a deferment when in grad school at least half time and since the bulk of the loans are subsidized that makes them 0 interest.

As for the DVC there is no way I am selling I would end up selling at a loss, would still be taking vacations while paying off this debt but they would now end up costing me more and then if I choose by it back for even more. Financially that would be stupid.

In that case, I'm with the others. Pay off the car first. Student loans are deductible. Sorry if I came off strong in my first post. Home ownership is not for everyone, and totally depends on timing. Although homes can be an investment, and in our case a very good one, they are a lot of responsibility and a constant source of unexpected expenditures.
 
You can't deduct DVC on your taxes. Not Federal, anyway. Not sure if you can on your state taxes in your particular state (my state doesn't have state tax).

I just don't want people to think that DVC is some sort of deduction on their Federal tax because they saw it written here.

ETA: I went back and read my contract and it seems that DVC releases themselves from liability by telling members to have all attempts to write off any portion of DVC or DVC dues if you meet certain criteria go through tax professionals, in case of audit and the IRS rules against you for tax fraud.

It all depends on how you finance it. If you buy direct through Disney or use a HELOC than it should be deductible since they are secured debt and a timeshare counts as a second home. As usual, check with your tax advisor on this.
 
I would do the car first.

Student loans CAN be deductible for some people. Not all people can...when my friend was married, she and her husband both worked and made WAY too much for those to be deductible.

But the more important part is that student loans aren't really seen as "bad" debt when you're going for credit. They won't be looked on as negatively as the car loan would be.


As for DVC, as long as you were going to be vacationing anyway, keep it. You'll be paying for accomodations in some way!

Some people in some cases can deduct a tiny little portion of the property tax...but I think that part of the criteria for that is that you have to actually own a home first, so that doesn't work. :3dglasses


Car car car, then move on to the next! Best of luck!
 

I would pay off the car first and student loan second. It sounds like both will be paid off with 1- 1/2 years which is pretty fast. If something bad would happen (job loss, medical issue, etc..) you could ask for a forbearance on the Student Loan but not the car.
 
Thanks everyone that chimed in since those firsts posts.

To add a bit more detail I wasn't able to deduct anything with the student loans or DVC last year because the amount wasn't high enough to be more then the standard deduction. Those are pretty much the only deductions.

I do need to work on more of an emergency fund I know. I have a few thousand which will cover any type of car or normal type of medical issue (like an accident or some other non-chronic illness) but haven't moved forward with more then that. Partially because I have trouble with the mindset of needing that much in a bank account somewhere and my husband is even worse about this. Until he saw some of these posts he thought I was crazy about all the savings I have. (He grew up in a house where collection notices were routine and still has many friends for which "afford it" means there is enough room on the credit card without maxing it out). I think it makes more sense to pay off debt first then build up the cash for 6 months once I am debt free.

My plan now is to do the car first which will go fast then start on the student loans. Paying his off first since it is smaller and not in deferment and then mine.
 
Thanks everyone that chimed in since those firsts posts.

To add a bit more detail I wasn't able to deduct anything with the student loans or DVC last year because the amount wasn't high enough to be more then the standard deduction. Those are pretty much the only deductions.


I believe student loan interest is an "above the line" deduction -- which means you get to take it even if you take the standard deduction and don't itemize.

This would be the reason to pay the car off first. If you are deducting the interest off your taxable income, you are effectively lowering the rate you are paying on the loan. Run the numbers and you can see if the effective rate for your student loans is more or less than the rate for your car.
 
As it seems everyone is adverse to having any type of debt. I'm not like that I don't feel the need to pay off my student loans immediately and not be able to take vacations and do fun stuff with it first. DVC goes towards our vacation fund. We did finance it but we paid it off in less then a year. The money we spent on interest was LESS then the money we saved on just one trip down, and we already took 2 and have the third booked so no that wasn't a waste either.
Yes, I am very adverse to debt. I know that life moves fast, and although in your early 20s it seems that it's fine to put off saving . . . it's no time at all 'til you're ready to have kids . . . no time at all 'til it's time for braces, cars and college . . . and most of us could be doing more to plan for retirement. There's another thread on this board right now about a woman whose husband became disabled and will never work again -- that could be any of us in a year, two years . . . and in that type of circumstance, pre-existing debt would feel like an anchor around your neck. And it doesn't have to be something as devestating as a disability: What if your carefully planned baby turns out to be twins, and you face the choice of paying daycare x 2 or losing one income? What if you find yourself a member of the sandwich generation: Needing to financially/physically care for aging parents at the same time as you're paying for your children's college expenses?

If you save a little too aggressively, it's not a problem -- you can vacation more later, give your kids a nicer wedding than you anticipated, buy a beach condo. If you save too little -- well, it's a big problem. Then you're looking at staying in an apartment when you've reached the point you really want a house, forcing your kids into student loan debt, postponing retirement, or other choices that you probably don't want to make.

Don't make light of debt or rationalize it away by saying, "It's only this small amount". This is the best time in your life to pay it off and avoiding accumulating more of it.
My annual dues were twice as much as what I'd spend on a room for one week. So it made financial sense for that to be earning interest for me instead of just forcing me to take a vacation every year or two in accommodations I didn't need. Alot of the "DVC saves money" is true, but only if you would have taken that exact same trip out of pocket. Just because it saved money for what you are getting doesn't mean it saves money on what you normally would have spent...if that makes sense.
It makes perfect sense. To justify a DVC purchase you must compare your cost to upscale rooms (which, of course, you get with DVC). But that ignores that you have the option to take a Disney vacation and stay in a much less expensive room for considerably less than the cost of DVC. When you're young and just starting out financially, it makes sense to go the inexpensive vacation route.

I don't know how much DVC the OP owns, but for the cost of it, she probably could've discharged one of those student loans AND STILL have taken a shoestring Disney vacation.
(He grew up in a house where collection notices were routine and still has many friends for which "afford it" means there is enough room on the credit card without maxing it out). I think it makes more sense to pay off debt first then build up the cash for 6 months once I am debt free.
I grew up in a house with no money also, but I always felt afraid and embarassed -- and it made me determined not to continue to live that way as an adult. Financial security is well worth the effort it takes. You're right that you should pay off debt first, then build up various savings accounts (emergency fund first, then house savings, short-term needs savings, and retirement savings).
 
Thanks everyone that chimed in since those firsts posts.

To add a bit more detail I wasn't able to deduct anything with the student loans or DVC last year because the amount wasn't high enough to be more then the standard deduction. Those are pretty much the only deductions.

I do need to work on more of an emergency fund I know. I have a few thousand which will cover any type of car or normal type of medical issue (like an accident or some other non-chronic illness) but haven't moved forward with more then that. Partially because I have trouble with the mindset of needing that much in a bank account somewhere and my husband is even worse about this. Until he saw some of these posts he thought I was crazy about all the savings I have. (He grew up in a house where collection notices were routine and still has many friends for which "afford it" means there is enough room on the credit card without maxing it out). I think it makes more sense to pay off debt first then build up the cash for 6 months once I am debt free.

My plan now is to do the car first which will go fast then start on the student loans. Paying his off first since it is smaller and not in deferment and then mine.

OK, I have to take back some of my earlier post, because the bolded part doesn't jibe with your earlier description of your finances.

What you have is called a savings account, but it is NOT an emergency fund. An emergency fund is designed to replace at least 6 months of your living expenses, either at the level you currently enjoy, or somewhat less if you think you would or could cut back your expenses if you had a major life change like a job loss or unexpected illness.

Get that saved while you are paying off that debt. Don't worry about paying off one or the other first, just make your goal in each category and split the money you have available each month. I'd be saving half of your extra money and paying down debt with the other half if I were you, but it's your choice. But get that emergency fund saved!!!! Down the road you will be so glad you did.
 

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