Where's the liberal outrage?

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"You can't back down. You can't chicken out. You can't be afraid. You got to have faith in Allah, and you've got to stand up and be a real Muslim,"
Detroit native (and Democratic Congressman-Elect) Keith Ellison said to loud applause.

Many in the crowd replied "Allahu akbar" -- God is great.

Apparently, George W. Bush is a fear-mongering religious zealot to many of our friends on the left. Many of them believe he is a religious nut whose extremist religious views are ruining the country. If he was ever met with a chorus of "Hallelujah, Praise Jesus", the DNC would be all over him.

But, where's the same liberal outrage when it's a Democrat Muslim who is introducing HIS religious zeal into American Politics? Any of you on the left willing to drop the hypcracy and denounce this? Separation of church and state, remember?
 
Apparently, George W. Bush is a fear-mongering religious zealot to many of our friends on the left. Many of them believe he is a religious nut whose extremist religious views are ruining the country. If he was ever met with a chorus of "Hallelujah, Praise Jesus", the DNC would be all over him.

But, where's the same liberal outrage when it's a Democrat Muslim who is introducing HIS religious zeal into American Politics? Any of you on the left willing to drop the hypcracy and denounce this? Separation of church and state, remember?

Ah, because these aren't remotely similar...No one ever said the Shrub wasn't free to have a religion. We just don't want him forcing us ALL to live by the dictates of his religion.
 
Apparently, George W. Bush is a fear-mongering religious zealot to many of our friends on the left. Many of them believe he is a religious nut whose extremist religious views are ruining the country. If he was ever met with a chorus of "Hallelujah, Praise Jesus", the DNC would be all over him.

But, where's the same liberal outrage when it's a Democrat Muslim who is introducing HIS religious zeal into American Politics? Any of you on the left willing to drop the hypcracy and denounce this? Separation of church and state, remember?
I don't know that I'm a liberal as you call it,
but I don't care for anyone in politics that
can't think rationally in the 21st century.
 

Do you really think these are equivalent? Why are the right wingers so phobic about having a muslim in Congress? The term Islamophobic has been applied to the comments of both Dennis Prager, Virgil Goode and Glan Beck concerning Rep. Keith Ellison.
 
There is a difference between Keith Ellison saying that he (meaning Keith Ellison) had to have faith in Allah and GW trying to push his religious beliefs oh the entire country.

Do you truly not see the difference?
 
Apparently, George W. Bush is a fear-mongering religious zealot to many of our friends on the left. Many of them believe he is a religious nut whose extremist religious views are ruining the country. If he was ever met with a chorus of "Hallelujah, Praise Jesus", the DNC would be all over him.

But, where's the same liberal outrage when it's a Democrat Muslim who is introducing HIS religious zeal into American Politics? Any of you on the left willing to drop the hypcracy and denounce this? Separation of church and state, remember?

Because it wouldn't be politically correct. It is only politically correct to bash Christianity.
 
Apparently, George W. Bush is a fear-mongering religious zealot to many of our friends on the left. Many of them believe he is a religious nut whose extremist religious views are ruining the country. If he was ever met with a chorus of "Hallelujah, Praise Jesus", the DNC would be all over him.

But, where's the same liberal outrage when it's a Democrat Muslim who is introducing HIS religious zeal into American Politics? Any of you on the left willing to drop the hypcracy and denounce this? Separation of church and state, remember?

So let's see - you provide a quote, taken from some story you read and are trying to make a point. Question: Was this a story about a Muslim elected to Congress addressing a group of fellow Muslims about how difficult it is to be a practicing Muslim in this country? How about you provide a link to the story so we can read the quote in context, rather than in YOUR context.
 
Never mind - I found the story, and I was right. He was addressing a Muslim audience. Now, are you actually surprised that this audience responded with "Allah Akbar"? This bothers you, User Name?

What exactly are you afraid of?
Again, the term Islamophobia appears to applicable. The right wingers are really disturbed by the concept of a Muslim serving in Congress.
 
Never mind - I found the story, and I was right. He was addressing a Muslim audience. Now, are you actually surprised that this audience responded with "Allah Akbar"? This bothers you, User Name?

What exactly are you afraid of?

Here is the link: http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/mich...0/1167104955237890.xml&storylist=newsmichigan

So, it was a group of Muslims he was addressing? I didn't get time to read the article and didn't know that. I thought he was just addressing a group of politicians. I see that no different then Bush addressing a group of Christians and saying Praise God and the audience responding the same.
 
There is a difference between Keith Ellison saying that he (meaning Keith Ellison) had to have faith in Allah and GW trying to push his religious beliefs oh the entire country.

Do you truly not see the difference?


Baloney! Insert God (or worse Jesus) & Christian & you libs would be foaming at the mouth!
 
There is a difference between Keith Ellison saying that he (meaning Keith Ellison) had to have faith in Allah and GW trying to push his religious beliefs oh the entire country.

Do you truly not see the difference?

We'll just have to wait to see what the Congressman votes on or introduces before we can claim any difference.
 
So, it was a group of Muslims he was addressing? I didn't get time to read the article and didn't know that. I thought he was just addressing a group of politicians. I see that no different then Bush addressing a group of Christians and saying Praise God and the audience responding the same.


Yes it was. From the story:

"The first Muslim elected to Congress returned to his home state and told fellow Muslims to observe their faith and work for justice."

and

"He spoke at a convention of the Muslim American Society and the Islamic Circle of North America, attended by about 3,000 people, the Detroit Free Press reported"

Those are the two paragraphs immediately before and after the quote the OP pulled from the story.
 
Again, the term Islamophobia appears to applicable. The right wingers are really disturbed by the concept of a Muslim serving in Congress.

You wield such and broad brush there Kyle.
 
I don't know that I'm a liberal as you call it,
but I don't care for anyone in politics that
can't think rationally in the 21st century.

Uncle Remus! I'm so happy you are back! I've missed you!
 
Oh my gosh. Here's your liberal outrage: I'm outraged that you would crop out a little bit of an article and turn it into something it's not.

Ellison was responding to remarks made by Virgil Goode in a letter to some of his constiuants about Muslims being elected to office etc. etc. Ellison was talking about fighting for justice and talking to fellow Muslims about not backing down when faced with fear mongering. Good grief, yup, I'm outraged that you would try to steer a speech aimed at fighting prejudice and bigotry into anything than what it was. Good grief.

Bush can be as "Christian" as he wants to be, no one cares, it's when he advocates policy based on HIS Christian beliefs (certainly not MY Christian beliefs) that he gets a big, "Keep your religion out of our politics" shout from the left!

Oh by the way, here's an article that tells you about Virgil Goode and his views. :crazy2:

Congressman Criticizes Election of Muslim

By RACHEL L. SWARNS
Published: December 21, 2006
WASHINGTON, Dec. 20 — In a letter sent to hundreds of voters this month, Representative Virgil H. Goode Jr., Republican of Virginia, warned that the recent election of the first Muslim to Congress posed a serious threat to the nation’s traditional values.

Representative Virgil H. Goode Jr., left, said Keith Ellison’s decision to use a Koran in a private swearing in for the House of Representatives was a mistake.

Mr. Goode was referring to Keith Ellison, the Minnesota Democrat and criminal defense lawyer who converted to Islam as a college student and was elected to the House in November. Mr. Ellison’s plan to use the Koran during his private swearing-in ceremony in January had outraged some Virginia voters, prompting Mr. Goode to issue a written response to them, a spokesman for Mr. Goode said.

In his letter, which was dated Dec. 5, Mr. Goode said that Americans needed to “wake up” or else there would “likely be many more Muslims elected to office and demanding the use of the Koran.”

“I fear that in the next century we will have many more Muslims in the United States if we do not adopt the strict immigration policies that I believe are necessary to preserve the values and beliefs traditional to the United States of America and to prevent our resources from being swamped,” said Mr. Goode, who vowed to use the Bible when taking his own oath of office.

Mr. Goode declined Wednesday to comment on his letter, which quickly stirred a furor among some Congressional Democrats and Muslim Americans, who accused him of bigotry and intolerance.

They noted that the Constitution specifically bars any religious screening of members of Congress and that the actual swearing in of those lawmakers occurs without any religious texts. The use of the Bible or Koran occurs only in private ceremonial events that take place after lawmakers have officially sworn to uphold the Constitution.

Mr. Ellison dismissed Mr. Goode’s comments, saying they seemed ill informed about his personal origins as well as about Constitutional protections of religious freedom. “I’m not an immigrant,” added Mr. Ellison, who traces his American ancestors back to 1742. “I’m an African-American.”

Since the November election, Mr. Ellison said, he has received hostile phone calls and e-mail messages along with some death threats. But in an interview on Wednesday, he emphasized that members of Congress and ordinary citizens had been overwhelmingly supportive and said he was focusing on setting up his Congressional office, getting phone lines hooked up and staff members hired, not on negative comments.

“I’m not a religious scholar, I’m a politician, and I do what politicians do, which is hopefully pass legislation to help the nation,” said Mr. Ellison, who said he planned to focus on secular issues like increasing the federal minimum wage and getting health insurance for the uninsured.

“I’m looking forward to making friends with Representative Goode, or at least getting to know him,” Mr. Ellison said, speaking by telephone from Minneapolis. “I want to let him know that there’s nothing to fear. The fact that there are many different faiths, many different colors and many different cultures in America is a great strength.”

In Washington, Brendan Daly, a spokesman for the incoming House speaker, Nancy Pelosi of California, called Mr. Goode’s letter “offensive.” Corey Saylor, legislative director for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, criticized what he described as Mr. Goode’s “message of intolerance.”

Representative Bill Pascrell Jr., Democrat of New Jersey, urged Mr. Goode to reach out to Muslims in Virginia and learn “to dispel misconceptions instead of promoting them.”

“Keith Ellison serves as a great example of Muslim Americans in our nation, and he does not have to answer to you, to me or anyone else in regards to questions about his faith,” said Mr. Pascrell, whose district includes many Arab-Americans.

The fracas over Mr. Ellison’s decision to use the Koran during his personal swearing-in ceremony began last month when Dennis Prager, a conservative columnist and radio host, condemned the decision as one that would undermine American civilization.

“Ellison’s doing so will embolden Islamic extremists and make new ones, as Islamists, rightly or wrongly, see the first sign of the realization of their greatest goal — the Islamicization of America,” said Mr. Prager, who said the Bible was the only relevant religious text in the United States.

“If you are incapable of taking an oath on that book, don’t serve in Congress,” Mr. Prager said.

In his letter, Mr. Goode echoed that view, saying that he did not “subscribe to using the Koran in any way.” He also called for ending illegal immigration and reducing legal immigration.

Linwood Duncan, a spokesman for Mr. Goode, said the Virginia lawmaker had no intention of backing down, despite the furor.

“He stands by the letter,” Mr. Duncan said. “He has no intention of apologizing.”
 
There is a difference between Keith Ellison saying that he (meaning Keith Ellison) had to have faith in Allah and GW trying to push his religious beliefs oh the entire country.

Do you truly not see the difference?

Well said.
 
Oh my gosh. Here's your liberal outrage: I'm outraged that you would crop out a little bit of an article and turn it into something it's not.

Ellison was responding to remarks made by Virgil Goode in a letter to some of his constiuants about Muslims being elected to office etc. etc. Ellison was talking about fighting for justice and talking to fellow Muslims about not backing down when faced with fear mongering. Good grief, yup, I'm outraged that you would try to steer a speech aimed at fighting prejudice and bigotry into anything than what it was. Good grief.

Bush can be as "Christian" as he wants to be, no one cares, it's when he advocates policy based on HIS Christian beliefs (certainly not MY Christian beliefs) that he gets a big, "Keep your religion out of our politics" shout from the left!
Hallelujah!! And Amen too.
 


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