Where does construction at CR stand now

[kidsluvmickey]

If the Animal Kingdom is going to be new dvc. What are they planning on doing with CR north wing there has been so much talk about?? Just renovation? Would they every do two dvc resorts at the same time???

 

[Dean]

My guess is we'll see an announcement for CR within the next year or so, maybe sooner. The way it looks to me is they can get VAK up and running (and in sales) so much sooner than what we're looking at with CR and that's likely why we're seeing AK first.

 

[Sammie]

Right now I was told by reliable sources that the North Wing would be rehabbed with the new room decor just as the South Wing was.

I think DVC there is still possible, just delayed in the 5-10 year range.

 

[vonpluto]

Right now I was told by reliable sources that the North Wing would be rehabbed with the new room decor just as the South Wing was.

I think DVC there is still possible, just delayed in the 5-10 year range.

Maybe sooner, if that rumor from a year or so ago about DVC at the tennis courts is the way they decided to go.

 

[LIFERBABE]

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[carol1231]

We stayed at CR last Friday and had a very good look at the NW from our balcony. The area is fenced off, but it didn't look like any work has been started. There are chairs still out on the 1st floor patios. And there were no trucks or workers that we saw.

 

[MinnieGirl33]

One thing to keep in mind about TWDCo. is that they change their minds at the 11th hour ALOT.

We didn't necessarily get the info wrong. They just make last minute changes all the time.

That's why so many of us say "I'll believe it when they announce it". I think it's why they are sooooo secretive about everything up until the last minute. They know they might change their plans!

 

[Entropy]

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They're going to dig there.
The colored paint marks indicate buried utilities. Blue is water, green is storm or waste. Soft dig means that they have to dig by hand rather than backhoe to prevent hitting those pipes.
Not a big clue here, they just might be renewing the hardscaping. If they were going deep to excavate a new foundation, the pipes would probably be shut-down and torn out.
Based only on that tiny random photo completely out of context and without any other sort of info, it looks like an aggressive remodel.

 

[minnie61650]

They're going to dig there.
The colored paint marks indicate buried utilities. Blue is water, green is storm or waste. Soft dig means that they have to dig by hand rather than backhoe to prevent hitting those pipes.
Not a big clue here, they just might be renewing the hardscaping. If they were going deep to excavate a new foundation, the pipes would probably be shut-down and torn out.
Based only on that tiny random photo completely out of context and without any other sort of info, it looks like an aggressive remodel.

I dug up ( no pun intended ) this old rumor from mouseplanet.com.
Maybe there is still some hope for a CR DVC even if it is on a smaller scale.

From a June 26 rumor:

http://mouseplanet.com/articles.php?art=wd060626mg

............What we've heard is a variation of an even older rumor, that the North Garden Wing of the Contemporary Resort would become a DVC resort. Now, prior rumors had indicated that the South Garden Wing would be converted to DVC lodgings, while still others indicated that a new DVC resort would be built on the current site of the Contemporary's tennis center. The South Garden Wing has already been refurbished into upgraded hotel accommodations. The tennis center is not in danger due to Reedy Creek Improvement District zoning regulations, which preclude new construction that close to the water. In fact, the North Garden Wing location cannot host new construction due to those same rules.

However, refurbishment of the Contemporary Resort is officially scheduled for completion this summer, yet no work has been done to date on the North Garden Wing buildings. The new reports indicate that the North Garden Wing buildings will be gutted down to the steel superstructure. (They can't remove the steel, because then it would be "new construction" and would violate the zoning laws. The old structures would be grandfathered in as existing structures being "renovated.") They'd then add two floors to the top and rebuild the interiors as DVC lodgings.

I am still hoping.

 

[starbox]

I would not be surprised at all if CRV and AKV (and even a DL DVC) overlap in sales. I think one weak area for DVC sales direct through Disney is the lack of choices. There is a percentage of potential buyers that are going to delay purchasing, or look at re-sales, or just not purchase at all because they perceive a lack of choice when they purchase directly through Disney.

Disney is the master of market research. They are very, very smart. I expect that they have been monitoring why people don't buy DVC and are looking at ways to adjust their marketing strategy to address those issues.

I also think you'll see some sort of re-configuration of rooms at some of the newer resorts to adjust to the fact that the demographics for family size are changing drastically. As the average family size becomes solidified at 5 - not four - I believe that DVC will find a way to accommodate the average family for a week at the 150 point range. I have a feeling this may happen at Animal Kingdom, despite what some people say about it confusing the point system.

 

[senecabeach]

IMHO with just a "gut" feeling....

Disney is taking thier time. There is NO way that a CR DVC, close to thier signature park, MK, would sell for anything below $150. per pt!
This is "primo" property/location and Disney knows it and will probably build (where?) or, most likely renovate a hotel at/near DL next.. to accomodate those on the west coast..

 

[Dean]

IMHO with just a "gut" feeling....

Disney is taking thier time. There is NO way that a CR DVC, close to thier signature park, MK, would sell for anything below $150. per pt!
This is "primo" property/location and Disney knows it and will probably build (where?) or, most likely renovate a hotel at/near DL next.. to accomodate those on the west coast..

I'll take that bet for any amount of value you care to set. IF CR happens it will absolutely be well below $150 per point.

 

[ralphd]

My guess is we'll see an announcement for CR within the next year or so, maybe sooner. The way it looks to me is they can get VAK up and running (and in sales) so much sooner than what we're looking at with CR and that's likely why we're seeing AK first.

Dean,

Don't you think they will let SSR sell (or close to) out before they announce a new resort?

 

[BCV23]

Linda, I liked that old rumor.

We would certainly buy points at a lowrise CR unless there was a Polynesian DVC but really didn't like that high rise especially with the rooms on the quiet side facing others.

But wasn't the CR built with individual steel components like the Polynesian? If the info on zoning laws is accurate, that would reduce the ways to change it to DVC. Perhaps it would be all studios or Inn room like Vero?

And wouldn't adding two floors count as new construction?

 

[minnie61650]

Linda, I liked that old rumor.

We would certainly buy points at a lowrise CR unless there was a Polynesian DVC but really didn't like that high rise especially with the rooms on the quiet side facing others.

But wasn't the CR built with individual steel components like the Polynesian? If the info on zoning laws is accurate, that would reduce the ways to change it to DVC. Perhaps it would be all studios or Inn room like Vero?

And wouldn't adding two floors count as new construction?

With zoning as long as the original foundation and at least one wall is the original you are usually able to grandfather in additions.

If that is the case the 2 new floors would not be concidered new construction.

That is why this plan made sense to me.

 

[Dean]

Dean,

Don't you think they will let SSR sell (or close to) out before they announce a new resort?

I think they are. Rumors are that SSR is less than a year from selling out. I didn't think it would sell that fast and DVC does have a hx of overstating sell outs though. DVC has generally had at least 2 resorts selling over the years. Other than OKW initially and right now, there has not really been any other time where there were not at least 2 resorts on the table either in sales or announced. So if your asking if I think it's a problem trying to sell AKL and CRV at the same time, the answer is no.

 

[senecabeach]

I'll take that bet for any amount of value you care to set. IF CR happens it will absolutely be well below $150 per point.

BTW....anyone hear a rumor that AKL will start @ $115. per pt.???

 

[disneymagic316]

We're still keeping our fingers crossed for CRV.

 

[Dean]

BTW....anyone hear a rumor that AKL will start @ $115. per pt.???

I doubt it will be that high. My best guess is $101, the current price with an increase about June or July and a sales date starting somewhere around Feb to April, 07. With opening in Fall of 2007 and a prelude needed on sales, the most they could squeeze in would be one price increase. They've already been discounting SSR to get it mostly sold prior, those last few points may be difficult for them to sell if they raise the price prior. I'll remind everyone that DVC announced VWL was sold out well prior to when it actually was. They assumed it would sell out with member add ons and shut down the push ons sales and actually formally announced it as sold out. Only to go back 6 months later and formally reopen sales to nonmembers.

 

[tjkraz]

I doubt it will be that high. My best guess is $101, the current price with an increase about June or July and a sales date starting somewhere around Feb to April, 07.

I agree with Dean.

I think this $115 figure is being floated to encourage people to buy into SSR at $86 now rather than waiting until next year for AKV.