Where do you stand on "High Heels" & The workplace

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Your thoughts?

www.perthnow.com.au/lifestyle/fashion/pricewaterhouse



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The video is under Fashion News. Woman sent home for not wearing heels.

 

[Maistre Gracey]

Didn't read the article, but as long as the work place has a pole, I'm fine with it.

MG

 

[powellrj]

I am not sure the same thing would happen in the states due to the americans with disabilities act. I know due to the fact I am in a wheelchair, I can no longer wear heels.

 

[mnrose]

I heard about this while listening to the BBC. Since heals are demonstrable BAD for your feet, I believe a valid case can be made that such a rule cannot withstand scrutiny. At the very least, any man who wants to enforce the rule should similarly be required to wear heals in the work place.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

It's not coming up. I tried looking under fashion, but don't see it.

Outside of medical documentation, if there is a comportment requirement, you follow it. Often the dress code isn't a surprise when you get hired.

I know that in the military, there was a flats option if she couldn't wear heels. It was a lace up shoe that was acceptable. But I don't know if she has medical exemption or if it was standard. She wore the patent leather heals for a long time.

 

[E&Cmom]

As someone who works in healthcare, the concept of having to wear high heals to work is so foreign to me.

 

[ravenclawtrekkie]

I worked a retail job once that required me to wear dress shoes but not heels in particular. That was bad enough - if someone wanted to force me to wear heels I'd tell them what bodily orifice they could shove the heels into.

 

[Rhie]

Heck no! Make a neutral dress-code or don't have one. The saddest part is that I am not remotely surprised we are debating this sexist nonsense in 2016. Women still don't get paid the same as men, and are still penalized for having children.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/laurenstrapagiel/bloody-ridiculous - here's a good reason why heels in the work place are a bad idea, and why requiring them is asking for a lawsuit. (Oh, yea, graphic pic of bloody toes if that bugs you)

And ugh at the bloody stupid argument of 'well you knew when you were hired...". Yea the 10 year old kids who work in factories know that when they get hired. Military people knew that DADT was law when they were hired. It doesn't make it right. It is absolutely not a reason not to try and change it, either. A lot of stores and even government offices make policies or laws that are contradicted by other laws. It is important to fight them, and change them. And, in most cases, the only people who have the standing to do so are people who suffered under them. So not only is that an intellectually lazy argument, its also legally wrong.

 

[Rhie]

Heck no! Make a neutral dress-code or don't have one. The saddest part is that I am not remotely surprised we are debating this sexist nonsense in 2016. Women still don't get paid the same as men, and are still penalized for having children.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/laurenstrapagiel/bloody-ridiculous - here's a good reason why heels in the work place are a bad idea, and why requiring them is asking for a lawsuit. (Oh, yea, graphic pic of bloody toes if that bugs you) Its an article about the same thing in the US.

And "oh well they knew when they sign up..." isn't an argument against fighting it. At least, not a good one. Legal is not the same thing as moral. A lot of immoral things have been legalized - like DADT in the military. People fought it because ideas of public morality and what is acceptable in the workplace changes over time. And that's how a society evolves. Also, oftentimes, the only people who can make a bad law or policy go away are people who are harmed by it. Also, there are many reasons why someone make take a job that aren't "because they agree with the policy of the workplace". Dire economic need, for instance. Then they get the job, realize how unfair or illegal the policy is, and decide to fight it. That is entirely fair, and entirely the way in which the US system is set up to work.

 

[sam_gordon]

Would she (and others here) be upset if the dress code required ties for guys? What about suit coats? A dress code requiring white dress shirts for men? Sorry, no, requiring heels should not be illegal. Don't like it, don't take the job. Seems pretty simple.

You'd have to look at the entire dress code to see if it's "fair". One element of the dress code doesn't give you the entire story.

 

[robinb]

Here is a video that interviews the woman who was fired: http://www.nbcnews.com/video/woman-sent-home-for-not-wearing-heels-to-work-684335683816

I want to hate this, but I just can't. The employer appears to be a firm that provides "front of house" employees to other businesses: http://porticoportal.co.uk/. People are what they sell and those people need to be trained and well dressed. I think you can be well dressed in flats, but they don't and she signed an employment agreement that she had to wear heels (apparently, 2-4 inches high!). In other words, heels are part of her uniform.

 

[superme80]

I think my issue is the height of the heels that is required. 1"-2" I think is fine. The 2"-4" is a bit much. After having children I cannot wear heels taller than 1". I wear wedges or flats. I need more stability.

 

[fly girl]

Would she (and others here) be upset if the dress code required ties for guys? What about suit coats? A dress code requiring white dress shirts for men? Sorry, no, requiring heels should not be illegal. Don't like it, don't take the job. Seems pretty simple.

You'd have to look at the entire dress code to see if it's "fair". One element of the dress code doesn't give you the entire story.

Wearing a tie/sport coat/white dress shirt is different than heels. Sure, both can be uncomfortable, but a tie isn't going to lead to back and foot problems.

There are many studies telling women to limit time in high heels as it leads to many medical issues.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Heck no! Make a neutral dress-code or don't have one. The saddest part is that I am not remotely surprised we are debating this sexist nonsense in 2016. Women still don't get paid the same as men, and are still penalized for having children.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/laurenstrapagiel/bloody-ridiculous - here's a good reason why heels in the work place are a bad idea, and why requiring them is asking for a lawsuit. (Oh, yea, graphic pic of bloody toes if that bugs you)

And ugh at the bloody stupid argument of 'well you knew when you were hired...". Yea the 10 year old kids who work in factories know that when they get hired. Military people knew that DADT was law when they were hired. It doesn't make it right. It is absolutely not a reason not to try and change it, either. A lot of stores and even government offices make policies or laws that are contradicted by other laws. It is important to fight them, and change them. And, in most cases, the only people who have the standing to do so are people who suffered under them. So not only is that an intellectually lazy argument, its also legally wrong.

I saw that. She had crappy shoes. And I question the "blood". Blood doesn't usually stain so uniformly like that. How do I know? Marathon running. And also stepping on something at the beach requiring stitches when I was little. Also--when you bleed thriving a sock after a long day, it tends to dry and stick the wound. So I have my doubts.

Dress codes are perfectly legitimate to enforce. Sexist would be requiring a woman to dress to the nines but be men can wear sweat pants and flip flops if they want.

 

[Cantw8]

Well, until they make high heeled safety shoes, I don't have a monkey in this circus

 

[Kaytie]

Would she (and others here) be upset if the dress code required ties for guys? What about suit coats? A dress code requiring white dress shirts for men? Sorry, no, requiring heels should not be illegal. Don't like it, don't take the job. Seems pretty simple.

You'd have to look at the entire dress code to see if it's "fair". One element of the dress code doesn't give you the entire story.

High heels for women but not men is discriminatory.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

High heels for women but not men is discriminatory.

I would hope that restaurants aren't requiring heels in the menus. That would be weird.

 

[dotfurio]

If I remember correctly they changed the dress code and now allow flats in response to all this?

ETA
here it is
http://abcnews.go.com/International...-women-wear-high-heels-work/story?id=39064162

 

[anneboleyn]

Would she (and others here) be upset if the dress code required ties for guys? What about suit coats? A dress code requiring white dress shirts for men? Sorry, no, requiring heels should not be illegal. Don't like it, don't take the job. Seems pretty simple.

You'd have to look at the entire dress code to see if it's "fair". One element of the dress code doesn't give you the entire story.

I wasn't aware that ties or suit coats or white shirts caused injuries over time the way that high heels do. Do you wear high heels to your job? Do you find them comfortable?

 

[anneboleyn]

Didn't read the article, but as long as the work place has a pole, I'm fine with it.

MG