When to give up your seat on the bus

[goofy4tink]

Bottom line. If you are a real man you give up your seat for any woman, child, or elderly person. Even if I am the first one to get on an empty bus, I will not sit down if there is a long line of people behind me.

Again, my dh is a 'real man' and there are times he just can not give up his seat. He may look healthy enough but he has a very bad knee. Believe me when I say that you don't want him standing on a bus!! Do not make vast generalizations. I don't need a man jumping up to give me a seat on the bus. Is it good manners to offer? Yes, but I will not assume you are a less than well-mannered 'real man' if you remain seated while I stand. There are exceptions to every rule.

 

[Hannathy]

Bottom line. If you are a real man you give up your seat for any woman, child, or elderly person. Even if I am the first one to get on an empty bus, I will not sit down if there is a long line of people behind me.

WOW I am hardly a feminist or a NOW member but this has to be the most sexist AND insulting statement I have heard in years!

 

[beattyfamily]

Bottom line. If you are a real man you give up your seat for any woman, child, or elderly person. Even if I am the first one to get on an empty bus, I will not sit down if there is a long line of people behind me.

My DH would agree with you but he would say he was being a 'gentleman' not a 'real man'.

Its nice to see that chivalry isn't quite dead yet.

 

[TDC Nala]

WOW I am hardly a feminist or a NOW member but this has to be the most sexist AND insulting statement I have heard in years!

I don't think ANY man should be required to give up a seat on the bus to an able-bodied woman who isn't carrying a kid. And I won't look down on the men who stay seated. Well, if I'm standing, I will look down literally.

 

[Ariel Wanna-be]

Sometimes I feel so bad for guys - there seems to be *such* a fine line between chauvanism and chivalry!

 

[crzy4dsny]

My DH would agree with you but he would say he was being a 'gentleman' not a 'real man'.

Its nice to see that chivalry isn't quite dead yet.

You are right. Let me remove the words "real man" and replace them with "gentleman", maybe "real Man" was out of line.

 

[crzy4dsny]

Again, my dh is a 'real man' and there are times he just can not give up his seat. He may look healthy enough but he has a very bad knee. Believe me when I say that you don't want him standing on a bus!! Do not make vast generalizations. I don't need a man jumping up to give me a seat on the bus. Is it good manners to offer? Yes, but I will not assume you are a less than well-mannered 'real man' if you remain seated while I stand. There are exceptions to every rule.

Your real man has every right to sit down if he has knee problems. Trust me, I don't look down upon a man sitting on a bus while others are standing. I am thankful that I can stand with no problems. Maybe that is why I do it.

 

[gcrw11]

I will be at WDW next Tuesday-Friday and let me tell you, if my family of 4 get on a bus and we've waited like everyone else, we will sit if there is a seat for us. At the end of the day everyone is tired, if you get a seat, it's yours. My 15 and 9 year olds are just as tired and want a seat, not mom's lap.
Sorry, but my MEN will sit if they get there before you. That being said, my children always offer an older person thier seat as I do or a pregnant woman or someone looking in need of a chair. But I resent the fact that most people feel that since they are male, they should stand. It's the 21st century people.

 

[NYDisGuy]

Ill give up my seat to anyone. I usually stand on subways all the time anyways (I am from NY) but when we stayed at the Boardwalk no one was giving up their seat besides me, not even for the elderly. Not to say that everyone who stays at the boardwalk is like that, but it was a little disheartning when I was witnessing it first hand.

And what really kills me is when parents have their 3-5 year old kid sitting in a seat when the bus is jammed packed. Can you please have your children sit on your lap? Even when the child is standing up on the bus and someone offers up their seat, the mother or father should sit down with the child, not just the child, it makes no sense. It frees up plenty of space and it is much safer that way, especially when the bus is jammed packed. Maybe im missing something, anways /rantoff.

 

[RyMickey]

Bottom line. If you are a real man you give up your seat for any woman, child, or elderly person. Even if I am the first one to get on an empty bus, I will not sit down if there is a long line of people behind me.

And this is why guys can never win. One minute we're told that women want to be independent and not treated any different than men and the next we're being told that, apparently, women are too frail to stand on a bus. People can throw around the word "chivalrous" and "gentleman" all they want. To the above poster, I would say: Generally, I would say I'm a nice guy...am I a jerk because I want to sit down on a bus after a long day at a park? Apparently, I'm not a man, despite the fact that anyone standing on a bus certainly has the ability to wait for the next bus for a seat. I'm not going to ask anyone to give me a seat. If I'm forced to stand, I'll stand...I'm not waiting around for the next bus.

The fact is that there are certain situations where I feel a guy should give up his seat. I'm more than willing to let a kid sit down (they have no control of their parents forcing them onto a bus) or a senior citizen (more than likely, their adult sons or daughters that they are likely travelling wth forced them onto the bus, too). But healthy women do not deserve a seat because they have two X chromosomes. As others have said, if you're that tired that you can't stand, wait for the next bus. To me, it's a luck of the draw thing.

And for that, I am an awful young man who will be forced to live for all eternity in a limbo-like state on a neverending bus ride in which I ponder endlessly whether I am allowed to have a seat or not...

[...I told myself not to get involved in this thread again...]

 

[offtheice]

Nobody NEEDS to be there. And the family could have waited until the baby was born. And unless she's overeating or overweight to begin with, no healthy pregnant woman gains that kind of weight until their last six weeks or so. I gained 22 pounds my entire pregnancy, and seven of those pounds were in the last four weeks. And any woman going to WDW in her last four weeks is really kind of foolish IMHO.



The same as the pregnant woman. They don't NEED to be there any more than the elderly people do.

Anne

I really didnt think we had this much ignorance in the USA .. 911 did nothing to bring this country together. To read some of these post make me laugh .

 

[ducklite]

Nevermind. Some posts aren't worth responding to.

 

[goofy4tink]

Did I, or did I not, respectfully ask that discussion about pregnancy weight gain not happen!!??
Offtheice...There is no ignorance here...just a difference of opinion.
Ducklite...let it go. There can be no winners of this particular discussion...only bad feelings!!!

If it continues, the thread will be done!!!

 

[taximomfor4]

And what really kills me is when parents have their 3-5 year old kid sitting in a seat when the bus is jammed packed. Can you please have your children sit on your lap? Even when the child is standing up on the bus and someone offers up their seat, the mother or father should sit down with the child, not just the child, it makes no sense. It frees up plenty of space and it is much safer that way, especially when the bus is jammed packed. Maybe im missing something, anways /rantoff.

You did miss something about why kids are in their own seats sometimes. It's earlier in this thread. There are, in fact, city buses that have a rule that kids who can sit MUST sit in their OWN seats because it is safer. Other reasons were given as well, and seemed quite logical to me.

Beth

 

[NYDisGuy]

You did miss something about why kids are in their own seats sometimes. It's earlier in this thread. There are, in fact, city buses that have a rule that kids who can sit MUST sit in their OWN seats because it is safer. Other reasons were given as well, and seemed quite logical to me.

Beth

Theres also city rules where you cant drink liquids, carry bulky items, create loud noise or pack the bus past the white line but those are obviousley acceptable in Disney. If WDW buses were anything like city transportation, everyone would be renting cars. If the kid can handle his own seat thats fine, but ive seen very young kids with their own seats when the bus is packed. I even have WDW bus drivers say if you have small children please have them sit on your lap to make more room for the bus. Just like others have stated in this thread, people have to understand that the WDW bus is not a limo, it is the alternative to not renting a car or driving, everyone recieves the amentity at that resort to use the bus, so it WILL be uncomftorable.

 

[taximomfor4]

Theres also city rules where you cant drink liquids, carry bulky items, create loud noise or pack the bus past the white line but those are obviousley acceptable in Disney. If WDW buses were anything like city transportation, everyone would be renting cars. If the kid can handle his own seat thats fine, but ive seen very young kids with their own seats when the bus is packed. I even have WDW bus drivers say if you have small children please have them sit on your lap to make more room for the bus. Just like others have stated in this thread, people have to understand that the WDW bus is not a limo, it is the alternative to not renting a car or driving, everyone recieves the amentity at that resort to use the bus, so it WILL be uncomftorable.

i was just stating an example. There were several who posted their reasons for NOT taking their child on their laps. We don't because dh is already standing, and I need both arms to help all 3 young ones. If one is on my lap that leaves me ONE arm to help 2. We tried it. One fell, hit her head. Now I keep my lap clear so both arms are free. We are 6 people. DH stands. Oldest dd (12 at the time) stands. I sit. DD7 sits on my one side, DD4 and DS5 on the other in one seat. (3 seats taken up). To put kids on laps, I guess we could do me in a seat with dd4 on my lap, DH in a seat with DS5 on his lap, dd12 still standing (guess she'd have to hold the stroller though), and dd7 in her own seat. (3 seats). Makes no difference at all in the # of seats available, and less safe for my kids. So they are in their OWN seats on either side of me.

We have never, ever, EVER had the driver ask the busriders to take small children on their laps. Not saying they don't but if they did, I would give them my whole explanation and NOT take my children onto laps.

 

[briar_rose_59]

everyone recieves the amentity at that resort to use the bus, so it WILL be uncomftorable.

Exactly, and IMHO (and no, I don't have my own kids yet) a child's right to safety on a bus (ie. sitting in a way that their parents can protect them if the bus makes a sudden stop, etc.) trumps an adults right to sit because they're tired. Obviously the elderly and/or disabled are a different story.

 

[seashoreCM]

Theres also city rules where you cant drink liquids, carry bulky items, create loud noise or pack the bus past the white line .... If the kid can handle his own seat thats fine, but ive seen very young kids with their own seats when the bus is packed. I even have WDW bus drivers say if you have small children please have them sit on your lap to make more room for the bus..

The parent has determined that the kid can HANDLE his own seat although not necessarily win a fight.

As far as the rest (as quoted here) goes, let MBTA or Disney or MUNI or NYCTA or whatever security force applies have the final say. Not a passenger.

 

[NYDisGuy]

i was just stating an example. There were several who posted their reasons for NOT taking their child on their laps. We don't because dh is already standing, and I need both arms to help all 3 young ones. If one is on my lap that leaves me ONE arm to help 2. We tried it. One fell, hit her head. Now I keep my lap clear so both arms are free. We are 6 people. DH stands. Oldest dd (12 at the time) stands. I sit. DD7 sits on my one side, DD4 and DS5 on the other in one seat. (3 seats taken up). To put kids on laps, I guess we could do me in a seat with dd4 on my lap, DH in a seat with DS5 on his lap, dd12 still standing (guess she'd have to hold the stroller though), and dd7 in her own seat. (3 seats). Makes no difference at all in the # of seats available, and less safe for my kids. So they are in their OWN seats on either side of me.

We have never, ever, EVER had the driver ask the busriders to take small children on their laps. Not saying they don't but if they did, I would give them my whole explanation and NOT take my children onto laps.

Thats why my original post had kid in the singular, not plural. Im not talking about a family of 6. I was just stating when a family of 3 sits down in the side seats and it is a young child, it makes more sense for that father or mother to lift the child on his or her lap then for him or her to occupy a seat especially on a crowded bus. First, people standing could be knocking into the child, someone could fall on the child or worse. Like I said, everyone has their own opinion, but I would rather hold onto my young child for saftey and courtesy.

 

[NYDisGuy]

The parent has determined that the kid can HANDLE his own seat although not necessarily win a fight.

As far as the rest (as quoted here) goes, let MBTA or Disney or MUNI or NYCTA or whatever security force applies have the final say. Not a passenger.

That is the point. There wouldnt be a debate on this whole topic if Disney or a transit authoirty stepped in. This is a moral issue, not a law. And im sure parents wouldnt want a TA to step in, because those snacks and strollers packed with everything under the sun wouldnt be allowed on the bus, but its not like that in Disney.

If you are referring to me as having the "final say" then thats ridiculous, read my first post, I was merely throwing my opinion for the sake of this thread. If you want to aim at people, why not target the utter nonsense in the beggining of this thread where people are saying that the Elderly shouldnt go to Disney if they cant walk.