When Disney bites, bite back!

A fast pass is pretty cheap compensation for being stuck on a ride. It costs Disney nothing and satisfies a guest.

Well said!

The argument that it will skew the Fastpass flow is absurd; it's not like you'd be dealing with 1000 people re-riding if an attraction breaks down!

And to accuse those wanting a re-ride of having an entitlement complex is exaggeration to say the least :rolleyes: - they aren't asking for anything that WDW couldn't easily deliver and deliver with little to no effect on the rest of their operation!! They just want what they already paid for!

The simple fact of the matter is that there are just people on this site who cannot cope with the slightest negative remark/review about WDW. They are incapable of logical debate over issues and refuse to consider or see anything except through their rose-colored Mickey glasses. I love WDW but, just like any operation, they have room for improvement in many instances and I have no problem with discussion of those issues.

Guess I must have an entitlement complex too :rolleyes:
 
Exactly. The fast passes I have received when rides broke down were good for any fast pass attraction in the park for the entire day.

I'm not sure that I agree with this remedy. Why should you get a fast pass for Soarin when the experience that was ruined was TT? The FP should be for the attraction that was ruined, UNLESS the expectation is that it will not be up and running again that day.

I can't even begin to tell you how much I dislike the whole fast pass concept...but that's an entirely different thread that I won't get into here. :sad2:
 
Yeesh, I have wasted YEARS in which I could have been demanding compensation! DH is a roller coaster fanatic, so we used to travel the country to different amusement parks or go to our local Six Flags nearly every weekend. I've lost count of the number of times we got stuck on a ride for a significant period of time (longest was 45 mins. on a roller coaster). No compensation was ever offered, and personally I chalked it up to being really cool experiences...something unique. Lately we've gotten stuck on Mummy, MiB and Dueling Dragons for a long time (we visit USF a LOT) and still we weren't smart enough to demand compensation for our valuable time (plus I really had to pee on Mummy so there's lots of mental anguish on that one too). And in the early days of Test Track, we did some sort of emergency stop and sat outside for goodness only knows how long...again, another wasted opportunity. Obviously I need to do some cognitive reframing: they are not interesting and unique experiences but rather traumatic horrible ones that should entitle me to lots of butt kissing by the parks.
 
Well the two times I got stuck on TT, I was once in the heating chamber and once in the cooling one. And I can guarantee you, if I had cooked or froze to death, I would have been looking for my compensation. :lmao: But thank heavens, I am still here to talk about it. :thumbsup2
 

I'm not sure that I agree with this remedy. Why should you get a fast pass for Soarin when the experience that was ruined was TT? The FP should be for the attraction that was ruined, UNLESS the expectation is that it will not be up and running again that day.

I can't even begin to tell you how much I dislike the whole fast pass concept...but that's an entirely different thread that I won't get into here. :sad2:

Well, I didn't make up the procedure--Disney did since the CM's had a whole bunch of cards all ready to go with the date printed on it--I would assume they're given out on a fairly regular basis so I'm not sure what all the hoopla is about on this thread. I would also assume that it's to prevent everyone from immediately getting into the fast pass line for the ride they just exited--sort of crowd control to spread the guests a bit thinner.

I'm a big fan of fast passes myself.
 
I totally agree with you.:) We have been on Test Track too many times and waited when it stopped, they should be able to give a fast pass without a specific return time.
 
I guess I've just never been in that much of a rush while on vacation to think about demanding a fast pass because I had to wait 10 minutes. Maybe because I generally have to wait any where I go in real life and I no longer do Disney by running from attraction to attraction. In the Grand scheme of life when I'm on vacation it just hasn't been that big of a deal to me.

I've only been on test track 1 time when it broke down, we simply got off and rode Mission space.
 
Gosh, what did people do back when they didnt issue fast passes? While I think issuing them for a ride problem is great, should it be expected no. I think the issue here with this specific post is this...the title "When Disney Bites, Bite Back"...to me that appears huffy/combative, and if that is how the thread was posted, after the fact..how did the OP approach the CM? (Possibly, friendly...but if the post is any indication....:rolleyes1 ).
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They waited in Line, had a fabulous vacation and the world continue to spin on it's axis. ;)
 
When Test Track broke down on us last year, the CM had F.P. with them that they gave us when we got down on the ground. We were stuck in the last high speed corner and were there for around 10-15 min. The F.P. were good all day but only once.
 
I guess I've just never been in that much of a rush while on vacation to think about demanding a fast pass because I had to wait 10 minutes. Maybe because I generally have to wait any where I go in real life and I no longer do Disney by running from attraction to attraction. In the Grand scheme of life when I'm on vacation it just hasn't been that big of a deal to me.

I've only been on test track 1 time when it broke down, we simply got off and rode Mission space.

It's not at all about the 10 minutes. It's about waiting to ride something (how long? 20 minutes? 40? 60? Getting on the ride, and then having it not work right. The fast pass basically says, "since you waited already and it didn't work out, we'll let you get back to the front of the line when it does start working.")
 
In July, we were at WDW and R&RC broke down several times. Of course, it seemed like it always happened when we were in the recording studio portion or the loading queue. We got stuck for about a half hour on Splash Mountain and had to exit through the back way. They shut down Space Mountain for about 10 mins. while we were in the loading area. For each of those shut downs, we received fast passes for the inconvenience. We did not ask for or expect any of the fast passes we received. There was a CM standing there giving them out and the CM was doing it quite happily.

I don't know ... stuff happens, rides break down and sometimes they're closed for rehab when I'm at Disney. I expect it to happen, I guess, and figure they don't owe me. I've been to other amusement parks (non-Disney) when rides have broken down or were closed and they don't give me my money back (esp. since they don't offer fast passes). Why should I expect it from Disney? Just b/c they're a bigger name?! If your local amusement park isn't going to compensate you, why should Disney have to!?
 
What about the expectation that things go wrong? Why does every mishap in the world need to be rectified with the user's desire? Why can't people realize that things happen & simply deal with that fact? What if your car breaks down on the expressway & holds up everyone behind you. Should you be responsible for reimbursing everyone that you held up? Why can't we just every once in a while expect things to go wrong in life & simply be happy when they're fixed?


why?? because your paying $70 plus dollars per day per person in your group to enjoy the day. That is the whole point.

When was the last time you had to pay per day to break down on the highway

OP was 100% CORRECT. Yes rides break down and yes that is acceptable but when you are a paying customer you should be compensated.

case closed
 
basically I think not expecting anything is what is going wrong with this world, just settle for mediocrity and not expect people or companies to live up to higher standards. Heck why should they go out of their way, from what you all are saying why should they, sit back and let everyone walk all over you otherwise you maybe seen as thinking you are "entitled" to something. For the love of pete, she was asking for a simple fast pass, not suing for a million dollars, a fast pass people.... wow. But like I said Disney loves people like you just keep forking over your money without any expectations. And if they would have to hand over as many fast passes as you people think for rides breaking down, maybe they need a better maintenance program
I live about an hour away from Cedar Point amusement park, and people are given meals, park tickets for much less.... it causes consumer loyalty.
 
The only time I was on a ride that broke down was this past summer on The Rock n' Roller Coaster, we waited about 40 minutes to get on that, the CM didn't mind giving out the fast pass, though they were getting very upset at people taking pictures of the ride with the lights on.
 
I guess I've just never been in that much of a rush while on vacation to think about demanding a fast pass because I had to wait 10 minutes. Maybe because I generally have to wait any where I go in real life and I no longer do Disney by running from attraction to attraction. In the Grand scheme of life when I'm on vacation it just hasn't been that big of a deal to me.

I've only been on test track 1 time when it broke down, we simply got off and rode Mission space.


It's not about demanding a fast pass, it all about a company dealing with a problem and fixing it in a way that helps a customer feel that they are important.
 
basically I think not expecting anything is what is going wrong with this world, just settle for mediocrity and not expect people or companies to live up to higher standards. Heck why should they go out of their way, from what you all are saying why should they, sit back and let everyone walk all over you otherwise you maybe seen as thinking you are "entitled" to something. For the love of pete, she was asking for a simple fast pass, not suing for a million dollars, a fast pass people.... wow. But like I said Disney loves people like you just keep forking over your money without any expectations. And if they would have to hand over as many fast passes as you people think for rides breaking down, maybe they need a better maintenance program
I live about an hour away from Cedar Point amusement park, and people are given meals, park tickets for much less.... it causes consumer loyalty.

:thumbsup2
 
Well, I didn't make up the procedure--Disney did since the CM's had a whole bunch of cards all ready to go with the date printed on it--I would assume they're given out on a fairly regular basis so I'm not sure what all the hoopla is about on this thread.

You’re right, you didn’t make up the procedure, Disney does. The problem is, you’re not really sure what their procedure is in this situation. You’re assuming you do, but just like the rest of us, you’re not sure.

Just because there are a whole bunch of cards already printed doesn’t mean that they are just given out on a fairly regular basis without regard to when or why. There may be (and probably is) a policy in place that governs when to issue FPs to guests, and the circumstances of your ride disruption may not have fit the policy. Therefore the CMs were reluctant to issue them. For example, maybe the policy says that the ride has to be down for 15 minutes. According to your original post, you were inconvenienced for just over 10 minutes, so your disruption wouldn’t qualify, therefore no FPs are automatically given out.

Until you know exactly what the policies and procedures are that govern this kind of situation, you really have no right to make demands of the CMs. For all you know they were doing their jobs as they were trained to do.

Again I don't agree with the "They don't owe me." statement. Would you say this about any other service based company that didn't live up to what they offered you? If the plane you were flying on to get to WDW need to land for a repair, wouldn't you expect the airline to do something to rectify the situation?

Yes, but they don’t. And comparing an airplane needing repairs to a 10 minute ride shut down is not quite the same thing.

I've been on a plane that was delayed because there was no air-conditioning. The airline boarded the passengers and we sat there for over an hour while the technicians tried to fix the air-conditioning. Finally, the airline decided to deboard us and bring in another plane. No sooner was everyone off the plane then we all boarded the same plane again and took off...still with no air conditioning on a 3.5 hour flight (Denver-Phila) in the middle of July.

There was no compensation of any kind offered nor received by those who requested it. Believe me, the time I lost on that plane was worth a whole lot more than the approximately $1.40 the OP lost as a result of her “wasted time.” As far as the airline was concerned, it was out of their control and so not their responsibility. At least Disney recognizes that at times it is necessary to give something (as evidenced by the "whole bunch of cards already printed up" the OP saw) to their guests to keep them happy (although evidently not as often as some people would like).

why?? because your paying $70 plus dollars per day per person in your group to enjoy the day. That is the whole point.

When was the last time you had to pay per day to break down on the highway

OP was 100% CORRECT. Yes rides break down and yes that is acceptable but when you are a paying customer you should be compensated.

case closed

I doubt that the case is closed. There are far too many people who disagree with your statement that the OP was 100% right.

You've admitted that rides break down and that it is acceptable. Then why do you need to be compensated for something that you admit is acceptable? Disney has, in the past, given FPs to people when these unforeseen events occur, but in all reality they don't have to do anything. Just because they have done so in the past, doesn’t give anyone the right to DEMAND that they continue to do so. As to the fact that you deserve it because you paid $70 to get into the park, that’s irrelevant. Try paying $60 at Six Flags and have them tell you “sorry” when their rides malfunction.

Life is full of minor (definitely where a 10+ minute ride malfunction falls, and major disappointments (getting sick and not being able to go at all). Being able to handle the minor irritations in life without feeling a need to "get mine" is a huge part of what is slowly being eroded from our society.
 
why?? because your paying $70 plus dollars per day per person in your group to enjoy the day. That is the whole point.

When was the last time you had to pay per day to break down on the highway

OP was 100% CORRECT. Yes rides break down and yes that is acceptable but when you are a paying customer you should be compensated.

case closed

I Agree:thumbsup2
 
I'm guilty of not reading every post in this thread but I have to agree that Fast Passes should have been given out. To call this "compensation" is a mild term considering it doesn't cost Disney a dime to hand these out. We've all paid our admission. They aren't out of pocket by having happier customers. It's not as if they were demanding a refund on their ticket price!
 
why?? because your paying $70 plus dollars per day per person in your group to enjoy the day. That is the whole point.

When was the last time you had to pay per day to break down on the highway

OP was 100% CORRECT. Yes rides break down and yes that is acceptable but when you are a paying customer you should be compensated.

case closed

Your correlation is non-linear.

Exactly how MUCH of that approx. "$70 per day per person in your group" could be determined as "lost" due to an unforeseen and short-span ride malfunction? Should it be determined by # of hours in park? # of attractions available? And, if to follow that line of reason, then for every "extra" bit of magic you receive while at the park, should you then be charged an additional amount (since it wasn't included in your initial entrance fee)?

Bottom line?

STUFF HAPPENS. Get over it. Move on. Deal. You're at DISNEY for Pete's Sake.. look around and find some MAGIC elsewhere... and while you're at it, count your blessings that you are even ABLE to enjoy your family in this wonderful place.. there are millions who can not.

<<<putting my soapbox back in storage now.. thanks for letting me air it out!>>>>
 


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