When Conteporary VC or a new DVC opens........

[dudleydog]

is it best to buy as soon as it opens or do they have better rates/incentives a few months later?

 

[Granny]

It is rare to buy points for any DVC resort and get a better deal by waiting. The only reason Disney would do that is if they are having a tough time selling points for the resort. I don't think CRV would fall into that category unless they overprice the points there or make the point schedule too high.

I believe that the Hilton Head and Vero Beach DVC resorts did get some enhanced incentives as the years went on, but that was because they really struggled to close out the sales on those properties.

 

[DISNEY FIX]

What would be worse: Higher price per point in the beginning or high points for accomadations? Anyone want to take a guess at the $ per point and what the points would be for a studio week? Just for fun.

 

[browniemtb]

I'll take a guess at the per point price......$112

Brownie

 

[TenThousandVolts]

my guess is points per night will be in line with akv concierge room

 

[sjdisneywedding]

What would be worse: Higher price per point in the beginning or high points for accomadations? Anyone want to take a guess at the $ per point and what the points would be for a studio week? Just for fun.

I think it would be worse if they make the point usage per night too high, I dont think they are as likely to alter it much after the release it. If the buy in price is too high there are always incentives to bring that down


If I were to guess I would think they would be fairly in line with the others. Right around or in between AKV savanah and concierge.

I would guess about $110-$120 per point depending on when the thing is finally announced

I like the idea of $109 with a $10 incentive to get the price back under 100, but the longer it goes that low seems unlikely

 

[chalee94]

i think AKV turned into a better deal if you waited a couple of months. don't know if that will happen with CRV or not...

$120 with an $8 incentive is probably the cheapest i would expect. i have no real idea, though...

 

[JimMIA]

My guess is we're still at least a year away from them starting to actually sell CRV, so I'd guess a price around $120. I'd be concerned about point-per-night costs, and I'd also be concerned about dues.

The dues at hotel DVC's tend to be somewhat higher anyway because of all the hotel amenities DVC shares. In the long run, the dues are really much more than the initial buyin price.

 

[wildernessDad]

I am a AKV founding member, but if I had waited, then I could have gotten those developer's points in addition to the money off per point.

But I have our name on a tapestry! Does that count for anything?

 

[AKV707]

I agree that the $120 per point with an $8 incentive sounds about right. I think that the point requirements will be in the AKV concierge level or a little higher. Just judging by how many Disers seem to have huge interest in CRV, Disney has to know that demand will be high. Having a higher price and higher point requirements also will reduce any adverse effects on AKV and SSR sales.

 

[TisBit]

I doubt they would raise the point per night rate much over what is considered the "standard"....it makes more sense to raise the buy in cost. Otherwise owners at CRV would be able to trade out for a lot more than people trading in, creating an unbalanced system. Dues are dues, I don't think they can intentionally charge too much just for profit (legal issues, etc). But I am sure they will be high, because there will have to be monorail costs associated with it!

 

[SSRFred]

I think you'll see a wide array of categories for points values. Something like AKV. You'll have the preferred MK view, the water view, the standard view. Couple that with concierge and you can have a wide range with some steep points categories. I could see a Concierge, MK View studio be about 140pts/week during Choice season.

 

[sjdisneywedding]

I doubt they would raise the point per night rate much over what is considered the "standard"....it makes more sense to raise the buy in cost. Otherwise owners at CRV would be able to trade out for a lot more than people trading in, creating an unbalanced system. Dues are dues, I don't think they can intentionally charge too much just for profit (legal issues, etc). But I am sure they will be high, because there will have to be monorail costs associated with it!

yep Im sure they will whack members quite nicley for the monorail

 

[pilferk]

It is rare to buy points for any DVC resort and get a better deal by waiting. The only reason Disney would do that is if they are having a tough time selling points for the resort. I don't think CRV would fall into that category unless they overprice the points there or make the point schedule too high.

Granny is right. There have only been a few cases where waiting got you a better deal, one pretty recently.

With AKV (and SSR, too), the first incentive offered was an $8 per point incentive OR developers points. The second promotion, which followed shortly thereafter, was for an $8 incentive per point AND developers point, if I remember correctly.

What kind of increased value you find the dev points depends entirely on you. For some (who can travel to use them, or are willing to take the time to rent them), that was a MUCH better value. For others, marginally better. But, by any account, it WAS better.

 

[sjdisneywedding]

Granny is right. There have only been a few cases where waiting got you a better deal, one pretty recently.

With AKV (and SSR, too), the first incentive offered was an $8 per point incentive OR developers points. The second promotion, which followed shortly thereafter, was for an $8 incentive per point AND developers point, if I remember correctly.

What kind of increased value you find the dev points depends entirely on you. For some (who can travel to use them, or are willing to take the time to rent them), that was a MUCH better value. For others, marginally better. But, by any account, it WAS better.

then it actually moved to double developer points, which also depending on what type of value you place on them could or could not be contrued as a better deal

 

[Brian Noble]

In the long run, the dues are really much more than the initial buyin price.

In absolute dollars, true, but not necessarily in time-adjusted dollars. It depends on the interest rate you prefer to use in your analyses. Even at a modest 3% over a 50 year contract, each $100 in purchase price contributes about $4 to annual costs.

Edited: after checking the math with a loan calculator, it's actually about $3.85.

 

[DISNEY FIX]

Granny is right. There have only been a few cases where waiting got you a better deal, one pretty recently.

With AKV (and SSR, too), the first incentive offered was an $8 per point incentive OR developers points. The second promotion, which followed shortly thereafter, was for an $8 incentive per point AND developers point, if I remember correctly.

What kind of increased value you find the dev points depends entirely on you. For some (who can travel to use them, or are willing to take the time to rent them), that was a MUCH better value. For others, marginally better. But, by any account, it WAS better.

Besides for selling out. Has the price ever increased after an offering?????? If not that would make the argument for waiting a little while at least before a purchase. Tapestry not withstanding.

 

[spiceycat]

Besides for selling out. Has the price ever increased after an offering?????? If not that would make the argument for waiting a little while at least before a purchase. Tapestry not withstanding.

yes the price generally goes up when DVC offers it to the general public. both BCV and VWL did. sorry don't remember SSR or AKV.

 

[JimMIA]

I don't know about AKV, but SSR has gone up several times. They have also had some pretty good promotions off and on with SSR -- 15% off with a "Friends & Family" referral, and also a 15% + extra points promotion for add-ons. We bought our SSR addon in that promotion -- got 120 SSR points at $83 + 100 free points. That was a nice deal.

However, as Granny said above, I don't think they'll need to do that with CRV. They might need to do some additional promotions at SSR and AKV to get them closed out, but I'd be surprised if they have any trouble selling CRV.

 

[Tink-n-Belle]

I really don't think the point value will be that bad, considering that you only have access to 2 parks by monorail. The other parks & DTD are still far away. I don't think it will be any different from the BCV or the BWV Preferred View. maybe a little more, but The CV will only be awesome if you want to go to Epcot or the magic kingdom.

But when you want to come back to the Cont from Epcot is will be a long trip. Considering that after Illuminations, you have to walk through future world with the 85% of the people, wait for the monorail, get off and then back on at the TTC and go all the way around and stop at the poly, GF & MK before you get to Cont ( which is about a 10-15 minute ride-- granted that you are on the monorail, but that will get old in time too). When you add strollers and tired kids into the mix, well the Contemporary isn't that convenience since you have to get on and off again.

My strategy for buying the Contemporary would be to stay there 2 or 3 nights then go over to the BWV for the rest of my stay. The CVR will only be good when I want to go to MK--- When we stay at the BWV its only a 5 minute boat ride or walk "home" after illuminations No crowds or waiting either. And its the same with DHS- except the walk is a little longer.