What's your personal grammar or spelling pet peeve?

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Why oh why do people use an apostrophe when it isn't necessary or when they only need to use a plural 's'? Example: What are your kid's doing this weekend?; Those Obama supporter's are celebrating too much.; These are my hero's.

So here's the scoop on the apostrophe. My beef is mostly about use #2:

From http://www.write101.com/sample.htm

Just when do you use an apostrophe?


1. Use the Apostrophe to show OMISSION

What's a nice kid like me doing in a place like this?

We started with two words, what and is, but because this is informal writing, we want to express it informally, so we omit a letter from the word is.

I could've danced all night ... (could have, not could 'of')

It's time for breakfast (It is time ...)

It's been raining all day. (It has been raining ...)

So, in future whenever you see an apostrophe, make a conscious effort to work out what the original word was before the letter was omitted. Sometimes, as in the case of could've and would've, more than one letter has been omitted.

This will establish good habits and alert you to the role of the apostrophe.

2. Use the Apostrophe to show POSSESSION

We went to Marmaduke's restaurant for dinner. (Marmaduke owns the restaurant; it is the restaurant of Marmaduke.)

Notice how the apostrophe comes at the end of the noun (Marmaduke) and is accompanied by the letter 's' - a bit like a chaperone.

We knew whom to blame for the missing pie; there was cream all over the dog's whiskers!

We're only referring to one dog and it owns the whiskers (and the pie and a very satisfied smile, no doubt).

Some words sound awkward when an apostrophe 's' is added:

Jesus's disciples.

The accepted form here is to just use the 's' apostrophe:

Jesus' disciples.

N.B. This only applies to names of Biblical or historical significance e.g. Jesus, Moses, Zeus, Demosthenes, Ramses ... the rest of us whack in the apostrophe and add an 's.'

Moses' followers, Zeus' priests, Demosthenes' teachings, Ramses' pyramid

Others don't have the same clumsy sound:

The princess's chair.

The important thing is to be consistent in your use of the form - nothing is writ in stone!
Using the Apostrophe with Plural Nouns

Confusion arises when the apostrophe is used with a plural noun.

At the zoo, the children were most interested in seeing the lions' den.

More than one lion owns the den, so we add the apostrophe after the 's' (this is the den of the lions).

So, the general rule is:

* if there's one owner - add an apostrophe and then 's'
* if there are two or more owners - add 's' then an apostrophe.

Exceptions to the Rules about Apostrophes

However, (and of course you're not surprised to hear this, are you?), there are exceptions to this rule.



For words which form their plural by changing internal letters (instead of adding 's'), the apostrophe comes before the 's'.

It was the children's turn to wash up.

Children is already a plural word, so we don't need to make it doubly plural by adding 's' apostrophe; however, we do need to indicate the idea of ownership, so we use apostrophe 's'.

Some other words which follow this rule are: men, women, people.
How to Use the Apostrophe with Double Possession

When you have 'double possession' - when two or more people (or subjects) own one item and both (or all) of their names are mentioned, the apostrophe is applied only to the second (or last) name.

We had coffee at Ermintrude and Marmaduke's mansion.

When you're using names that end in -S, you follow the same rules as with any other name and add apostrophe S:

Chris's car, Bridget Jones's Diary.



Plural names also follow the same rules:

Bill Thomas's car; the Thomases' new house (add -es to names that end in S to indicate plural form).


Using the Apostrophe with Expressions of Time

The apostrophe is also used with many expressions of time (to show that the time period owns the other noun):

an hour's time; a year's holiday
When NOT to Use the Apostrophe

BUT notice that we do not use the apostrophe with possessive pronouns (remember, these are the little guys who step in and lend a paw to nouns).

After dinner at Marmaduke's restaurant, we went back to his place for coffee.

The bird's feathers were ruffled. (The bird owns the feathers.)

The bird ruffled its feathers. (The bird owns the feathers, but the pronoun its is being used instead of the noun, so there is NO apostrophe.

You'll see it's and its used incorrectly nearly every single day and in places where it should never happen. An easy way to make sure you never confuse the two is to ask yourself (do this quietly, you don't want to alarm those around you), if the words it is can be substituted in the sentence- if the answer is yes, then whack in the old apostrophe.

If the answer is no, then sit on your hands so you won't be tempted.

The bird ruffled its (it is?) feathers. (NO)

It's (it is?) a lovely day. (YES)
Tips for Using the Apostrophe Correctly

To summarise, here is a good way to check if you need an apostrophe - for future reference:

If you can substitute the use of "of" then you use the apostrophe.

e.g. This is Marmaduke's house ... it is the house of Marmaduke.

The children's mother phoned ... the mother of the children phoned.

Three months' work ... the work of three months
 
The whole "their", "they're", "there" thing makes nuts.

Never really thought about misuse of an apostrophe.
 
Why oh why do people use an apostrophe when it isn't necessary or when they only need to use a plural 's'? Example: What are your kid's doing this weekend?; Those Obama supporter's are celebrating too much.; These are my hero's.

So here's the scoop on the apostrophe. My beef is mostly about use #2:

From http://www.write101.com/sample.htm

Just when do you use an apostrophe?


1. Use the Apostrophe to show OMISSION

What's a nice kid like me doing in a place like this?

We started with two words, what and is, but because this is informal writing, we want to express it informally, so we omit a letter from the word is.

I could've danced all night ... (could have, not could 'of')

It's time for breakfast (It is time ...)

It's been raining all day. (It has been raining ...)

So, in future whenever you see an apostrophe, make a conscious effort to work out what the original word was before the letter was omitted. Sometimes, as in the case of could've and would've, more than one letter has been omitted.

This will establish good habits and alert you to the role of the apostrophe.

2. Use the Apostrophe to show POSSESSION

We went to Marmaduke's restaurant for dinner. (Marmaduke owns the restaurant; it is the restaurant of Marmaduke.)

Notice how the apostrophe comes at the end of the noun (Marmaduke) and is accompanied by the letter 's' - a bit like a chaperone.

We knew whom to blame for the missing pie; there was cream all over the dog's whiskers!

We're only referring to one dog and it owns the whiskers (and the pie and a very satisfied smile, no doubt).

Some words sound awkward when an apostrophe 's' is added:

Jesus's disciples.

The accepted form here is to just use the 's' apostrophe:

Jesus' disciples.

N.B. This only applies to names of Biblical or historical significance e.g. Jesus, Moses, Zeus, Demosthenes, Ramses ... the rest of us whack in the apostrophe and add an 's.'

Moses' followers, Zeus' priests, Demosthenes' teachings, Ramses' pyramid

Others don't have the same clumsy sound:

The princess's chair.

The important thing is to be consistent in your use of the form - nothing is writ in stone!
Using the Apostrophe with Plural Nouns

Confusion arises when the apostrophe is used with a plural noun.

At the zoo, the children were most interested in seeing the lions' den.

More than one lion owns the den, so we add the apostrophe after the 's' (this is the den of the lions).

So, the general rule is:

* if there's one owner - add an apostrophe and then 's'
* if there are two or more owners - add 's' then an apostrophe.

Exceptions to the Rules about Apostrophes

However, (and of course you're not surprised to hear this, are you?), there are exceptions to this rule.



For words which form their plural by changing internal letters (instead of adding 's'), the apostrophe comes before the 's'.

It was the children's turn to wash up.

Children is already a plural word, so we don't need to make it doubly plural by adding 's' apostrophe; however, we do need to indicate the idea of ownership, so we use apostrophe 's'.

Some other words which follow this rule are: men, women, people.
How to Use the Apostrophe with Double Possession

When you have 'double possession' - when two or more people (or subjects) own one item and both (or all) of their names are mentioned, the apostrophe is applied only to the second (or last) name.

We had coffee at Ermintrude and Marmaduke's mansion.

When you're using names that end in -S, you follow the same rules as with any other name and add apostrophe S:

Chris's car, Bridget Jones's Diary.



Plural names also follow the same rules:

Bill Thomas's car; the Thomases' new house (add -es to names that end in S to indicate plural form).


Using the Apostrophe with Expressions of Time

The apostrophe is also used with many expressions of time (to show that the time period owns the other noun):

an hour's time; a year's holiday
When NOT to Use the Apostrophe

BUT notice that we do not use the apostrophe with possessive pronouns (remember, these are the little guys who step in and lend a paw to nouns).

After dinner at Marmaduke's restaurant, we went back to his place for coffee.

The bird's feathers were ruffled. (The bird owns the feathers.)

The bird ruffled its feathers. (The bird owns the feathers, but the pronoun its is being used instead of the noun, so there is NO apostrophe.

You'll see it's and its used incorrectly nearly every single day and in places where it should never happen. An easy way to make sure you never confuse the two is to ask yourself (do this quietly, you don't want to alarm those around you), if the words it is can be substituted in the sentence- if the answer is yes, then whack in the old apostrophe.

If the answer is no, then sit on your hands so you won't be tempted.

The bird ruffled its (it is?) feathers. (NO)

It's (it is?) a lovely day. (YES)
Tips for Using the Apostrophe Correctly

To summarise, here is a good way to check if you need an apostrophe - for future reference:

If you can substitute the use of "of" then you use the apostrophe.

e.g. This is Marmaduke's house ... it is the house of Marmaduke.

The children's mother phoned ... the mother of the children phoned.

Three months' work ... the work of three months

Yuck. My eyes started to glaze over and I felt like I was back in Ms. Riley's 8th grade Language Arts class.:crazy2:
 
On the DIS it would be lack of paragraphs. I don't understand why anyone would write a huge post and not least attempt to break it into paragraphs. If I open a thread and see that, I back out immediately.
 

:) The apostrophe s usage is also my peeve. ::yes:: I know it's a weird thing to think about (the apostrophe s, I mean), but I do think about it.
 
When people spell loose instead of lose, as in I'm trying to loose weight :headache:
 
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adding an s where there shouldn't be: anyways is my biggest pet peeve on that.

I have others but that's the one that sends me over the edge.
 
these ones and those ones aaaaggghhh
it's these and those, adding "ones" to it makes it redundant.
 
On the DIS it would be lack of paragraphs. I don't understand why anyone would write a huge post and not least attempt to break it into paragraphs. If I open a thread and see that, I back out immediately.


:worship: Thank you for saying that!

As far as the DIS is concerned, the cutesy words drive me up the wall. Ressies, souvies, preggers, etc. really get to me.
 
I have a lot -- apostrophes where they aren't needed (we have lot's of car's), you're instead of your (I have you're coat), loose instead of lose (They are going to loose the game), it's instead of its (the cat licked it's foot), quotation marks used for emphasis (We have "lots" of cars!)

Doesn't bug me online because I know people are in a hurry, but it drives me NUTS when I see badly written signs on stores, or one of our execs at work sends out a company-wide email peppered with bad grammar.
 
When people spell loose instead of lose, as in I'm trying to loose weight :headache:
That bugs me too.
Also, when a long post has zero paragraph breaks I won't read it.
 
The paragraph thing and their/they're/there along with you're and your.

The big long thing you posted I didn't read, LOL. Couldn't bring myself to do it LOL.
 
"That shirt needs ironed."

I hate that. Never even heard it until I met DH and his family.

And my new pet peeve is "I know right?!" Where on earth did that come from and why?


My dear mom was a grammar policewoman. :) Her biggest irritation was -

"I'm going to lay down", when it should be "lie" in that sentence. She was on her deathbed correcting medical professionals about it. I miss you Mama!
 
Very common error:

just between you and I


Another common error:

how will it effect us?
 
When people say I'll write you instead of I'll write to you
 
Should OF instead of should've
Could OF instead of could've
Would OF instead of would've

Those three drive me nuts maybe because the nuns beat it in to me.

(No, I am not kidding.)


Another one is "Nip it in the butt."
 
The whole "their", "they're", "there" thing makes nuts.

Never really thought about misuse of an apostrophe.

Worse than that - when "they" is used in place of "their." It is horrendous in the spoken word, but when it is written, it makes me want to find every teacher that ever taught that person and ask HTH it was allowed!!


I have a job in which I review correspondence from people with master's degrees and quite a few of them write "they."

For example: After extensive research by the rules committee, the division determined it was they responsibility to complete the task.
 

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