What would Disney have to do to keep your family away?

For me, a deal breaker would be if they eliminated all FP's for offsite guests. I/we sometimes stay onsite, but more often not....Or, another would be if they tied the number of FP's to the type of accommodations you were in (e.g., 6 for a deluxe, 4 mod, 3 value, etc.)
 
We own DVC, buy annual passes and usually go for around 4 weeks once a year. Wasn't a fan of FP+, the crowds these days are certainly annoying, and food is definitely over priced, but I still enjoy going to Disney.

With the annual pass we usually span that over two years/trips, so we end up getting 7-8 weeks worth of days off the one pass. So my costs per day to enter the park is extremely low, hence I don't need to do a lot in the park to make it worth my time and money.

Until they price me out and I'm not sure what that would take, (probably 3-5x increase in annual passes) I'll still end up going to Disney.
 
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For me, a deal breaker would be if they eliminated all FP's for offsite guests. I/we sometimes stay onsite, but more often not....Or, another would be if they tied the number of FP's to the type of accommodations you were in (e.g., 6 for a deluxe, 4 mod, 3 value, etc.)

That would be the worst thing. I love to stay onsite but sometimes it doesn't work that way. A trip without ANY FP would be a nightmare for me.
 
Get rid of DME as a free service. Close the resorts to anyone but resort guests (so, no resort hopping for food, drink, or to just look around). Have absolutely no plans for change. If they continue to let things get stagnant and close everything as they seem to be doing…but with nothing “NEW AND EXCITING” on the horizon… my money would start going to Universal (I do love central Florida).


I will say, if Universal started offering the free transportation, I would jump ship to them in a heartbeat. I love that they have visions that don’t take 6+ years to come to fruition.
 
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I'd be stunned if they went that route, after decades of just about every other theme park moving AWAY from that approach.

Nothing Disney, or any company for that matter does, surprises me anymore.

In terms of the ticket book pricing: I just can't see them tiering their attractions with much success. It's much harder today to say what an "E ticket" attraction really is. For example, would they charge more for this new Frozen attraction? By ride standards, it will hardly be an "E Ticket"- but it will be popular? At WDW, it's not just as simple as "thrill rides are E tickets". I don't see this pricing working at all.

I don't think it would be a tiering of actual rides. I think the rumor is that they are considering pay per ride period. You may get a certain number of rides on the base ticket (9-10 has been thrown around as an example but I don't know where it comes from), but it you want more rides, or maybe even repeat rides, then you pay more. This would work very conveniently with MB. You could go to the scanner, find you reached your maximum, and then just pay more to rider more:( Not liking that at all.
 
started to post then hit the wrong button....agree with eliza61....we are taking a break from the parks until there is justifiable enough new attractions to see. We are saving for 2021 and very excited. In the meantime we will still enjoy Disney here on the DIS and in 2017 when we hit Universal for the first time. I am planning to scope out Disney Springs and planned a "beach day" at Blizzard Beach, with Breakfast at Cape May and Dinner (dessert) at Beaches and Cream.

Love Disney because there is so much besides just the parks..If something irks me about one part, I can never justify deserting it in its entirety.

This is the kind of vacation we have switched to. Resort only. We enjoy what the resorts have to offer, Disney Springs, Boardwalk area, etc. We still feel like we are getting "A Disney Vacation", but I am not looking at the sad state of the parks for $1500 more. We are doing a resort only, 10 day, trip in June and I cannot wait!
 
Prices are nearing my breaking point, even with the wonderful discount they offer the military...
 
Shut the whole thing down is the only way I'd stop going. We don't go for just the rides or for the resorts or for the food but a combination of all three plus it's somewhere we can go where we can just relax and forget the world. Right now it is still less expensive than most dive vacations we take and for a long weekend it's less expensive then places I go solo.

This. If they changed their entire way of creating the Disney bubble. I've been to Universal, even stayed "on-site" but didn't feel that they cared whether I was going to the park or not. And the shine was off my entire dining experience by having to pay as we went. And even the way I felt like they were just moving me along like sheep to the ride. I know, Disney is the evil corporation, but when I'm there (and long after I'm home) I feel special. They've fooled me.

And as for cost, we don't stay deluxe (and our first moderate stay is coming up this summer), but I just don't see how Disney is any more expensive than most anything else we can do. We have taken other vacations, but it's certainly not been to save money. I haven't been able to see how to spend less in any given week: There's still car rental (we live in the city and don't own a car), hotel or vacation rental, meals, tickets and entrance fees. And often (but not always) air fare. Nope, no savings.
 
Crowds. If we can go when crowds are low(ish), we go. If we can only go during high crowd times, we skip it. It's getting harder if not impossble to predict when crowds will be low, so we're skipping it for a few years until the new lands roll out. I'm sure it will be supercrowded then, but I'd be willing to give it another shot to experience the new offerings. I'm not willing to put up with the crowds for what's there now.
 
We used to take at least a day trip while visiting family every year. The price increases have already limited that. It's actually been 4 years since we've set foot in WDW. The longest it's ever been for me. I felt like we should do more long stay because my youngest doesn't even remember it and my oldest will be 10 in August. The price of this vacation has caused me to say it's the last long trip unless something significant changes. I can't see staying more than 2-3 nights ever again and only then if it's because the whole extended family is doing it. We generally hit a theme park at Christmas time as an extended family when we all get together in FL every other year. Last year it was USO. Next year we are talking Seaworld. We chose Disney in 2008, even staying at POP 3 nights. We chose WDW again for a day trip in 2010. We stayed 6 nights in 2011, and stopped at WDW on our Magic cruise in 2012 and haven't been back since. We will see. I am super excited about this trip but am thinking the new lands will need to start opening before we go again.
 
for certain? ruin the wdw bubble or raise the prices to the point where we can no longer afford to stay on property. DD and DH would say "stay at POR" because for them, values are a total no go and they'd rather not go at all. (i've never seen a teenager so in love with a food court before.)
ever increasing costs irk me. endless construction and cut corners make me make me angry. bad food is disappointing... but you kill the bubble? disney world is dead to me.
 
Continue like they are - raising prices and making cuts left, right and center. Tiered pricing will be another blow that will probably prevent us from going back - OR, if they implement the ticket booth approach that is now being rumored. We will definitely not be back. If I wanted to do a "pay for ride" approach, I'd go to my local carnival.
that would probably do me in. I couldn't see paying high prices for a resort, admission, then paying extra still for certain rides. nope, nada.
 
They've already lost me, largely because of what I'm hearing about the crowds and the deconstruction of DHS and Epcot. The only reason we're going is because I couldn't talk DH into going to DLR instead, and it's his turn to decide. But I've cleverly arranged to go to Universal first, which is likely to demote WDW for him as well.

The pay-to-ride rumors don't bother me. It would cut back on the people riding the same ride over and over, making it easier for everyone to get on the ride.
 
We only come every 2 years. It isn't anything that Disney does or doesn't do, we just want to see more of the country. This year, however, we have opted out of Disney in favor of Universal. Part of our choice was made by Diagon Alley, but a major portion of it was wanting a more leisurely adventure. That Express Pass for everything when you stay at one of the top tiered hotels is fab. Walking to the parks AND Citywalk is treat. The resort hotels are beautiful and we look forward to some lazy afternoons by the pools.

Four years ago, we spent 6 days at Disneyland. We loved the proximity to the parks and Downtown Disney. We also loved how the attractions are closer together so you see more in fewer steps.

We will go back to WDW, we still have 3 days left on No Expiration tickets plus another 7 water park days. After that, who knows, but I still want to attend F&W and Garden!
 
I love WDW, I can't wait to see what they have in store with Avatar land, SW land, and TS land. However, I can hold off until then. The crowds and increased prices have made that decision for me. Plus I'm not to big of a fan of fp+. To say that I would never go to WDW again though? I don't think I could ever make that statement.
For now though I will explore other options. And explore more of the world before I have kids. (They definetly will be going to WDW)
 
I can honestly say that the rumored pay per ride tickets would be the end of our trips. We have gone every year for 14 years, stayed onsite every trip for at least 10 days in CL suites (or rooms when it was just my daughter and I) at deluxe resorts. We have booked every extra dollar experience-tours, dessert parties, fishing excursions, private cruises, etc, available, many more than once. We have POP for every meal-and I'd say 90% were TS and many at signature restaurants. We have spent a fortune, more than enough to buy a second home at a resort destination. There is NO WAY that I would pay for those things and then be subjected to a pay per ride scheme on top of it. I would be happy to never go again and I have been a huge fanatic of the parks since our first trip. How they could justify charging per ride on top of the premium prices they already charge for what would be average hotel rooms anywhere else, food that has consistently been declining in quality, parks that have reduced attractions and crazy lines no matter the time of year (due in large part, IMO to FP+ and the shutting down of so much) is beyond me. We take separate winter vacations-my DD and I to WDW-DH and DS to Utah, Colorado or Cali. As it is now, my husband and son no longer have any interest in going as they feel they have seen and done it all and the pixie dust has long worn off for them. This new pricing would be sure to do the same for me.
 














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