What to look for???

RBennett

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Ok, so I've been lurking here for a little while now trying to see what cameras everyone recommends, etc. and now I'm getting almost as confused as when I first started looking. What exactly do you look for in a new camera? I'm wanting something that captures colors really well and can also take pictures of fireworks, with a REALLY clear picture and that I can keep for a really long time. I always thought if you had a camera with higher megapixels, (around 7 or 8) with adjustable shutter speeds and ISO, that would be the camera to check into. But from what I've heard just because the MP and etc may be there doesn't mean that it's necessarily a great camera. And I need to keep this under $500! HELP!!!! :confused3
 
You probably want to keep it to the bridge cameras like the Canon S3 or the Sony H5. Sony does have some new models coming out and Canon likely will soon. Fuji has some nice performers as well, but they lack IS. The DSLRs will take better pictures in terms of MPs and ISO performance, but it would be tough to keep one at $500. It can be done, but it is tough. You would also be fairly limited in terms of focal length to keep the cost that low. The body and an 18-55mm kit lens would be all that you could afford on $500.

I don't think that color quality comes up all that much anymore. Pretty much all new cameras do a pretty nice job there. Also, for fireworks, you need a tripod and a camera with either fireworks mode or manual mode. There are many that can do this. Low light abilities are where the pack usually separates. Ones with IS have better abilities to take low light shots of stationary subjects and long focal length shots.

Kevin
 
In addition to Canon and Sony bridge cameras, you may want to also look at Fuji's lineup. I have one and have been pleased with the high-ISO performance, given the price point. Fuji high-ISO performance is superior to C and S in most cases, if not all, but you *do* sacrifice IS, which Fuji does not offer, and that at least partially negates the high-ISO advantages.

~YEKCIM
 
The problem is that when the manufacturers are adding megapixels, they're still being captured by a sensor that's that same size. If you have a sensor that's the size of your thumbnail and you try to squeeze out an extra few million pixels, you have to expect that you're not going to magically be able to coax out much more detail past a certain point. You will also find more image noise as the megapixel count goes up, which is murder on low-light photos.

Plus, you have to remember that photography is nothing but capturing light, and the smaller the sensor, the less light it absorbs, and it's more difficult for it to work well in low-light situations. This is part of what drives folks to use DSLRs - my wife has a Canon SD600 pocket camera and I have a DSLR, both are 6 megapixels, but the sensor in my camera is about 15 times larger. Guess which takes a sharper photo and works better at night?

Megapixels are almost completely marketing-driven. It's unlikely that an 8mp point-n-shoot camera is going to capture much more detail than a 5mp one. And a 6mp camera with a larger sensor will probably give you a better picture than an 8mp one with a smaller sensor. Also, a larger sensor will be able to handle higher ISO levels much better.

The Fujis generally have larger sensors, hence their superior sharpness and noise levels compared to most others, like the S3, H5, etc. Some of the others do have larger sensors (like the Canon A6xx and G-series) but many don't. But like Yekcim said, they lack image stabilization. Most also only use xD cards, which are harder to find and more expensive than SD cards, but the new models take both (finally!).
 

The problem is that when the manufacturers are adding megapixels, they're still being captured by a sensor that's that same size. If you have a sensor that's the size of your thumbnail and you try to squeeze out an extra few million pixels, you have to expect that you're not going to magically be able to coax out much more detail past a certain point. You will also find more image noise as the megapixel count goes up, which is murder on low-light photos.

Ok... so that's what I was needing to hear. Now my next question; is there someplace on the specifications that you can see the size of the sensor, to try and compare cameras? And what size should I be looking for? I'm sure there is and I just don't know what to look for. Thanks again for everyone's help!! :thumbsup2
 
Ok... so that's what I was needing to hear. Now my next question; is there someplace on the specifications that you can see the size of the sensor, to try and compare cameras? And what size should I be looking for? I'm sure there is and I just don't know what to look for. Thanks again for everyone's help!! :thumbsup2

Try these:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare.asp

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sidebyside.asp

All things being equal, a larger sensor should provide superior IQ; however, all things are *not* equal, and there are other factors to be considered, too, such as whether the camera has stabilization or not. My Fuji does not have it, but I personally have not found it to be a major handicap. OTOH, my dad has a Sony H1 that does have stabilization, and he loves it.

You can over-research these things to death...believe me, I have done so twice in the past year. What I'd suggest is to evaluate different models, within the framework of what kinds of photography you intend to do, both short and longer term, and use the various review sites (dcreview, steve's digicams, dcresource, megapixel.net, imaging-resource) to narrow down your choices. I found the sample image pages on steve's and dcresource, in particular, to be very helpful. Both (as well as others) allow download of full resolution files (many times of the same subject, photographed with different cameras) for comparison purposes. Doing that was very intstrumental in my choice of the S5200 a year ago, and the D50 earlier this year.

The other valuable resource I would mention would be this board. We all have our personal favorites and prejudices, but this community is polite, knowlegeable, and willing to help.

~YEKCIM
 
Sorry to bump this up, but just in case anyone else has some more tips! These have all been EXTREMELY helpful!! Thank you!!!!! :thumbsup2
 
Best advice is to get yourself into a camera shop and try some for size. once you have narrowed your choice down to maybe 3-4 models with similar features then the biggest factor for you is what feels comfortable in your hands.

Personally, Ive never gotten on with Sony cameras for some reason - their feel (for me) just isnt right. Some cameras just feel perfect in your hands, others feel clumsy and awkward.

Ive owned just about every brand of camera over the years and they all have had good and bad points. My last two recent purchases have been a compact and DSLR. My compact research led me to either the Canon Ixus 800 or the Fuji F30 - both had excellent reviews and on paper they were impossible to seperate. However once I got in the shop and played with both, the Canon stood out as being the better option for me. I liked the menu set up, the layout and the build quality.

Again, when I chose my DSLR there were 4 main contenders and it was only after going to handle them could I make my final choice. I ruled out two immediately as they just didnt sit right with me, however on paper these were probably the two strongest in terms of features.

Have fun choosing and dont forget to show your results from your new camera!
 


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