What to look for in dog obedience classes?

LisaR

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I have owned many dogs over the years and have never had a need to take any to obedience school until now. I have a 7 month old, 13 pound Miniature Schnauzer that is just full of piss and vinegar. I have had 80 pound dogs that have given me less trouble than this little one!

I am checking out some of the classes in our area and I don't have a clue what to look for. I have heard about the "clicker" method and most suggest avoiding that one. Some require choke chains. I know they are fine if used properly but I don't like that idea on a 13 pound dog. Is there anything in particular I should ask/look for when calling/visiting these places?

Thanks!
 
I'm in the same boat. We have a 6 month old Miniature Schnauzer and have been researching obedience classes. He is terrorizing our 7 year old Sheltie. I hope somebody here has had experience with Schnauzers. I don't know whether to sign up for a class or if it would be better to have a trainer come to the house.
 
jojo,
It isn't a Schnauzer thing because we have a 7 y/o that we have had since he was a puppy and he is an angel. We also inherited a schnauzer years ago from a dying relative that was spoiled beyond belief with zero training and he was also an angel. I am not sure what is with our new puppy but listening is not one of her top priorities! Maybe we can ship our puppy and your puppy off to boot camp together. :lmao:
 
Sadie, our Sheltie would love it if Teddy went away to boot camp. Funny thing, we got Teddy as a companion for Sadie after we had to put down our 13 year old Sheltie back in February. She was really missing him so we thought we were doing a good thing by bringing home a friend for her. I'm not so sure now. He's really a sweet dog, just very rambunctious and doesn't listen.
 

Personally I would look for a school that trains for AKC obedience trials. Look for an Obed club vs. Petco/smart trainers.
Even though you have no desire to shoe your dog, it does not matter. I was in a class once where out of the 10 people in class there was only two of us who actually showed
 
We're doing the puppy class at PetSmart. I can't help in what to look for, but I'm really enjoying the class. It helps that our puppy is really well behaved for a full grown dog, let alone a 5 month old puppy. There are other pups in the class though that are a handful and I can see a difference in the past 4 weeks we've been going. I'm sure it depends on the instructor you have too. I'd start asking around for recommendations!
 
I just got my certification and one of the things to make sure is that you have a licensed trainer. The ones at Petsmart, PETCO, etc. rarely are. :( If you go to APDT.com, you will see who in your area is.

After you find a certified one, visit a class - not just with the trainer, a full class to see how they interact with dogs. Do they require you to buy certain equipment, won't work with you on yours (some hate angel collars also known as prong collars but for some dogs they are necessary), and how are the people in the class interacting with their dogs. Are the dogs scared of them? Is the class fun? Does the instructor pay close attention to the people in class and correct them when necesary? Do they seem confident?

If you aren't comfortable with them, don't go any further and visit another class. I went to a class where this lady was highly recommended by everyone, certified, etc. but she was so focused on training signals that she didn't realize that they work differently based on the size of the dog. So, this owner was giving the command to their dog and this poor little weiner dog was terrified and submissive (getting on back). If the instructor had been wise enough to realize that the dog was scared because it was so small and saw the command as a threat, she would have had the owner step back or try a different signal. She was also against my mixed breeds Angel Collar (that works well for her) and kept trying to get us to use the Gentle Leader which terrifies my dog. So, we walked away.

We found a trainer that incorporated agility into her classes so that the dogs as well as the owners would stay interested. My dogs love going to the classes and look forward to it. That hasn't always been the case before I learned about certification and different training programs. It is important to find a trainer that uses positive reinforcement. Not punishment. That has small classes, meets with you one on one to assess your dog and one that you are comfortable with. Most have classes on the weekends. But, I also love trainers that are involved in things with their dogs. Whether it is obedience competition, rally competition or agility competition.

It is a tough decision, but you will find a great trainer. It just takes some time. Since your dog is small, I would hope that most trainers would not encourage any choke collars or prong collars (the necks are very sensitive on small dogs and those methods hurt them a lot of the time). Listen to your instinct and you will know if a trainer is good or not. Just because they have the title doesn't mean that they are good! Dog training clubs are the same way. We have a local obedience club that has teenagers teaching the classes and to me, it was a waste of time because they subscribed to a one size fits all type of training. No two dogs are the same.

Good Luck! If you have any other questions, please let me know.
 
look for your local dog training club. You can find them at http://www.akc.org/clubs/search/index.cfm

Thanks for the link. The one place I found online that really appealed to me is on that link so that makes me feel better.

I am not sure if anyone knows the answer to this but I will put it out there. We are having the puppy fixed on Friday. The class begins 13 days later. I wonder if that will be enough time between the surgery and the start of training? I will call the vet tomorrow if I remember or ask on Friday just to be sure.
 
We got lucky. Our trainer we met at petsmart. She is a licensed trainer and we are doing our puppy classes with her. Then she will then do the more advanced training privately.
 
Thanks for the link. The one place I found online that really appealed to me is on that link so that makes me feel better.

I am not sure if anyone knows the answer to this but I will put it out there. We are having the puppy fixed on Friday. The class begins 13 days later. I wonder if that will be enough time between the surgery and the start of training? I will call the vet tomorrow if I remember or ask on Friday just to be sure.

Yes...they recover quickly, but usually most training programs will have you wait to attend until the rabies shot has been given. I wouldn't risk taking a dog to classes until after all shots/boosters have been given.
 
Yes...they recover quickly, but usually most training programs will have you wait to attend until the rabies shot has been given. I wouldn't risk taking a dog to classes until after all shots/boosters have been given.

She has her rabies shot already. I don't think she is due for anything else until she is a year old. I don't recall them telling me that I needed to bring her back for anymore shots. I will ask on Friday. Thanks!
 
I have owned many dogs over the years and have never had a need to take any to obedience school until now. I have a 7 month old, 13 pound Miniature Schnauzer that is just full of piss and vinegar. I have had 80 pound dogs that have given me less trouble than this little one!

I am checking out some of the classes in our area and I don't have a clue what to look for. I have heard about the "clicker" method and most suggest avoiding that one. Some require choke chains. I know they are fine if used properly but I don't like that idea on a 13 pound dog. Is there anything in particular I should ask/look for when calling/visiting these places?

Thanks!

Hi! Your little dog sounds great. I am a huge fan of clicker training and have used it to train 4 Therapy Dogs. I wondered what you have heard that makes you want to avoid it? There is a lot of information on this site if you want to read a bit more about clicker training before rejecting it. http://www.clickersolutions.com/

I belong to Truly Dog Friendly a group that includes many APDT folk too. Members believe in pain-free training and most have reservations on using choke collars. Again, interesting information and there is a list of trainers there too: http://www.trulydogfriendly.com/blog/?page_id=4

Good luck!

On the spay, they do recover quickly but 13 days isn't much time. Can you ask your vet?
 


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