What the heck is going on

[Girlstar30]

https://ew.com/disney-world-guest-death-cause-announced-11837817

 

[MyDogTink]

Very sad.

 

[Brian Noble]

These things sometimes happen in clusters---someone who is struggling with ideation hears of a successful attempt, and decides that's how they'll do it too. My high school is (in)famous for having kids kill themselves on the CalTrain tracks, and that dates back to before I was a student there in the 80s.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/12/the-silicon-valley-suicides/413140/

As someone how has had his fair share of suicidal ideation in the past, speaking to anyone reading this who might feel the same way: You do not have to do this alone, and there are people who are ready to help. That's hard to hear when you are in the middle of it, but it is true. Heck, at last night's meeting, a good friend said something like that, and my brain immmediately responded with: "No they don't." And, I am in a MUCH better place now than I was during the lowest point in early sobriety.

 

[atthebeachclub]

I really do wish we could help people before it comes to this. Every time it happens it is tragic.

One thing I learned in a suicide prevention course I took was putting distance between somebody and their method or plans is important: take away their method and it gives them time to come back to reality and reconsider. Not sure how one can do that with a tall hotel issue, but I hope people know there really are people who do not want to see them go through with this and and even when people don't think their loved ones care, they really do and truly will be affected.

 

[Girlstar30]

These things sometimes happen in clusters---someone who is struggling with ideation hears of a successful attempt, and decides that's how they'll do it too. My high school is (in)famous for having kids kill themselves on the CalTrain tracks, and that dates back to before I was a student there in the 80s.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/12/the-silicon-valley-suicides/413140/

As someone how has had his fair share of suicidal ideation in the past, speaking to anyone reading this who might feel the same way: You do not have to do this alone, and there are people who are ready to help. That's hard to hear when you are in the middle of it, but it is true. Heck, at last night's meeting, a good friend said something like that, and my brain immmediately responded with: "No they don't." And, I am in a MUCH better place now than I was during the lowest point in early sobriety.

It is really hard to understand this for people that dont struggle with suicidal ideation. I am referring to myself and my observations on my initial reaction and me how difficult it is for me to process that my thinking is wrong. I have felt depressed before, but never to this extent.

I was talking about it with my wife because it was at BLT and that hits a little close to home. I hate to say my initial reaction was telling her that this is very selfish. "They dont care about kids seeing that they jumped off a building." "Her husband is going to blame himself for the rest of his life, how incredibly selfish."

And I was reading articles saying that people tend to do this in places where they once had good memories and im like but why wouldnt you go back there and feel that happiness again?

I realized my thoughts are out of ignorance and she did explain to me that people in this state arent thinking about all of this. I wish that there were better resources for people available.

 

[atthebeachclub]

The thing about suicide is: it's ok to have feelings about this. I do. I don't usually share those feelings because nobody wants to hear them. But suicides have a ripple effect on others in so many ways, and it's affected my family and so many others as well. It's ok to be upset about it. And even with my own feelings, I still wish we could get these people some help. Feeling this was I'm sure is a miserable thing. Wish we could help people reach out when they need others the most, before it is too late.

 

[Girlstar30]

The thing about suicide is: it's ok to have feelings about this. I do. I don't usually share those feelings because nobody wants to hear them. But suicides have a ripple effect on others in so many ways, and it's affected my family and so many others as well. It's ok to be upset about it. And even with my own feelings, I still wish we could get these people some help. Feeling this was I'm sure is a miserable thing. Wish we could help people reach out when they need others the most, before it is too late.

Its great that you took the course and it is good to let your feelings and pain out. And im sorry you had to go through this, life can be so hard sometimes. Im lucky I haven't been affected by this before, I couldnt imagine how I would feel esp if it was my wife/family. I think I would go into a deep, deep depression and i dont know how I would get thru that, thats probably why my thoughts went there

 

[atthebeachclub]

The course was required by a state I'm licensed in, and honestly was well worth it. I learned some discussion points to help people in distress and I've used them a few times; I'd recommend a similar course to anyone. My job doesn't usually have this sort of a component, but I've been surprised when it has come up. I even had a gentleman come up when I was at work and just admit he was suicidal and needed help once, and I felt so much better prepared to help him (I know this sounds crazy but it happened).

It was my older cousin in my case; honestly I'm still angry that he left behind his three young kids who really needed him. Maybe I shouldn't be angry but it was very upsetting and I know his kids still need him, ten years later, and they definitely wish he was here. It felt and still feels very unfair.