What is Michael Newdow (CA atheist) up to now???

[Crankyshank]

And how do you know it would fail? Do you know the opinion of every registered voter?

and who's being rude now? You call me stupid because I pointed out if we "loved it or left it" over 200yrs ago like you're saying we should do, then we'd still be part of England. All I'm saying is that what you are telling the man to do is completely against the principles our country was founded on and where would we be if the founding Fathers followed your directive?

 

[Crankyshank]

Not to mention, you're still missing the point:

MOST people were against England's rule of our country.

MOST people aren't against the word "God" being on US currency.

Awful analogy.

Not an awful analogy. Most people were quite content to have things as is under English rule. Perhaps you should do some reading about the Loyalists.

 

[boomhauer]

And how do you know it would fail? Do you know the opinion of every registered voter?

and who's being rude now? You call me stupid because I pointed out if we "loved it or left it" over 200yrs ago like you're saying we should do, then we'd still be part of England. All I'm saying is that what you are telling the man to do is completely against the principles our country was founded on and where would we be if the founding Fathers followed your directive?

You need to reread posts before posting. I didn't say you were stupid. I said your post was stupid.

You know, I don't know it would fail. But I do know, that over 90% of the people living in this country believe in a God. Why would it pass?

I'm not telling the guy to do anything. I'm all for trying to get things done (that are purposeful and helpful to society.)

Complain about medicare being to expensive.
Complain about social security being used by the government.
Complain that not enough effort is being put towards medical research of diseases.
Complain about the lack of school funding.

THOSE are issues that need attention and get ignored because time is spent on other issues, such as worrying about what the back of your dollar bill says.

 

[Crankyshank]

You need to reread posts before posting. I didn't say you were stupid. I said your post was stupid.

You know, I don't know it would fail. But I do know, that over 90% of the people living in this country believe in a God. Why would it pass?

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so I'm not stupid - the things I write are stupid. And yet *I* am rude? Whatever.

Why would it pass?Well perhaps you should read Helenabear's post. That would be a pretty good reason why. and not everyone who believes in God thinks God belongs in the government. I know I sure don't as well as many of my Christian and Jewish friends

 

[boomhauer]

so I'm not stupid - the things I write are stupid. And yet *I* am rude? Whatever.

Why would it pass?Well perhaps you should read Helenabear's post. That would be a pretty good reason why. and not everyone who believes in God thinks God belongs in the government. I know I sure don't as well as many of my Christian and Jewish friends

Yes - You are rude. You start with the rudeness and as soon as you get it back, you act all innocent. One thing you wrote was stupid. Bad analogy. Loyalists were engaged in commerce or were officeholders under Britain's rule. They also tended to be foreign born and of the Anglican religion.

I'm Jewish. I believe in my God. I don't see a problem with him being represented on my money.

My wife is Prodestant. She believes in her God. She doesn't see a problem with him being represented on her money.

 

[caitycaity]

I'm Jewish. I believe in my God. I don't see a problem with him being represented on my money.

My wife is Prodestant. She believes in her God. She doesn't see a problem with him being represented on her money.

you do understand 1) some people might not want it on their money and 2) that it's pretty much impossible to tell someone to stop using us currency if they are a us citizen and live in the us, though, right???

 

[Crankyshank]

Yes - You are rude. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. One thing you wrote was stupid. Bad analogy. Loyalists were engaged in commerce or were officeholders under Britain's rule. They also tended to be foreign born and of the Anglican religion.

I'm Jewish. I believe in my God. I don't see a problem with him being represented on my money.

My wife is Prodestant. She believes in her God. She doesn't see a problem with him being represented on her money.

No you're the one resorting to personal attacks so who can't take the heat?

Loyalists were loyal to the crown. They made up a significant percentage of the people residing here at the time. What they did and what religion they practiced had nothing to do with the price of tea in China.

That's nice that you and your wife feel God belongs on your money. I know many people who disagree. You wanted a reason why a vote removing it would pass when 90% of the population believes in God. I provided it for you. That's all

 

[boomhauer]

you do understand 1) some people might not want it on their money and 2) that it's pretty much impossible to tell someone to stop using us currency if they are a us citizen and live in the us, though, right???

Of course I do.

I never even said I liked it on my money. I just don't see a problem with it. I think there are far too many other serious issues facing the world today to waste time on something like this.

 

[boomhauer]

That's nice that you and your wife feel God belongs on your money. I know many people who disagree.

I never said I felt good about it. I just said I don't have a problem with it. Myabe someday when live in a flawless Utopia and there's nothing else to possibly focus attention and care on, I'll pay closer attention to the words on the back of the money in my wallet.

 

[reddixie]

I agree with Boomhauer on the fact that we have way more important things to debate. Homelessness, Healthcare, War, Jobs, Gas, and that is to name a few. I am for the Pledge, Money, and in the South our Rebel flags hanging in places of honor at our capitals. We need less goverment. I will say that what is written on our money and such is a total waste of time while we have so many real problems to face. If it went to a vote and prayer in school went to a vote I am sure they would pass. I for one would vote to
have both. I think our forefathers would die of shame at the way this country is doing now. They wanted less taxes, more representation, less laws. I think that we have totally missed the boat. Does that mean I am wrong,no just my opinion.

 

[Crankyshank]

you do understand 1) some people might not want it on their money and 2) that it's pretty much impossible to tell someone to stop using us currency if they are a us citizen and live in the us, though, right???

He said Michael Newdow should leave the country if he doesn't like God on the currency.

 

[Marseeya]

Newdow is an ATTORNEY.

Just because someone has an advanced degree doesn't make him any more intelligent than the next person -- just more academic.

Frankly I never had a problem with the words on our money. However, after hearing the nonsense spouted here, I'm going to support Newdow in whatever capacity I can.

 

[boomhauer]

He said Michael Newdow should leave the country if he doesn't like God on the currency.

That's not how I meant it.

My personal feelings are, if you don't like the rules and policies of this country, either deal with it, or leave. This isn't hurting anyone. Unlike say, being under Britsh Rule.

 

[Crankyshank]

You know I'm not saying that there aren't much more important things to be dealing with in this country.
I'm just saying that telling someone to leave the country because they don't like it is ridiculous and goes against what our country was founded on. If it's an issue you feel passionate about, you should definitely fight it using any means you possess. Just because I happen to disagree with the level of importance someone places on the issues, doesn't mean you you can't utilize the powers granted to you in the Constitution.

 

[boomhauer]

You know I'm not saying that there aren't much more important things to be dealing with in this country.
I'm just saying that telling someone to leave the country because they don't like it is ridiculous and goes against what our country was founded on. If it's an issue you feel passionate about, you should definitely fight it using any means you possess. Just because I happen to disagree with the level of importance someone places on the issues, doesn't mean you you can't utilize the powers granted to you in the Constitution.

OK, I'll grant you that. He has every right to make issue of this.

Let me put it this way - If this fails, much like his last endeavor, it'll be something else. This guy is never going to be happy. Someone like him, yeah - Get out. Obviously, he has far too many gripes with this country to be happy. It's a free country - He's free to leave whenever he wants.