What is going on with the FP+ crackdown?

[robinb]

is it even possible to get a second AP? Don't they check your ID?

Only if you purchase a special AP like a FL Resident or a DVC AP. And even then, people buy AP vouchers in advance all the time to lock into today's prices.

 

[DonaldDuck77]

#1 Some are
#2 They can't

Unless something changed, the moderators on TPAS board stated that you could post if your account was locked.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Because software is often developed in stages. Do you remember the old paper FP kiosks? When it was initially rolled out they accepted just about anything "Disney" for a FP: active ticket, expired ticket, room key with no ticket, etc. Then, sometime later, they added the software to verify that the ticket was activated in the park. Same thing with FP+. The kiosks accepted MBs without active tickets and now (as I understand) the kiosks will no longer allow you to book SDFPs without having an activated ticket. What I have read is that they tried to verify MB/ticket activation when they first implemented FP+ the but the system crashed. So they rolled back that capability until they could implement it successfully.

Exactly which scammers will not go away with a blue mickey?

Not real familiar with Disney IT, huh?

Look...they did a big upgrade and masked it (brilliantly) 5 years ago...but Disney doesn't sink costs into steady systems upgrades...the idea the they are doing a major rollout this soon after is contrary to all their history.

...that would be surprising

 

[robinb]

Not real familiar with Disney IT, huh?

Look...they did a big upgrade and masked it (brilliantly) 5 years ago...but Disney doesn't sink costs into steady systems upgrades...the idea the they are doing a major rollout this soon after is contrary to all their history.

...that would be surprising

But history tells us that they DO. My example of the paper FP kiosks is one of them.

ETA, how would they even know to lock an MDX without some kind of upgrade?

 

[AngiTN]

But history tells us that they DO. My example of the paper FP kiosks is one of them.

ETA, how would they even know to lock an MDX without some kind of upgrade?

Right. Either they've made a change that will indeed catch the MDE accounts that use invalid FP or they didn't. They can't very well lock accounts if they can't identify who used invalid FP, can they?

 

[DonaldDuck77]

I'm still looking for an official acknowledgement that the change party function even exists (outside of the MDE program itself).

 

[lockedoutlogic]

As for the cost - an AP costs $830. I will spend about 40 days in WDW parks this year, which means that I am paying about $21/day for park entry, and about $7 per FP+. So, for someone like me an additional investment of $830 makes sense to double my FP+. For someone visiting less frequently - maybe less so. And for a local FL resident going every day - not only is the AP cheaper, but the cost per FP+ would be much, much lower.

My point - most people doing this would not be spending $33/FP+. They would be spending anywhere between $2 and $10 per FP+. Not as crazy as it sounds.

I'm sorry...paying disney double for their lineup of attractions really makes no sense.

And I don't want to get into the "it's my opinion...so it can't be disproven" nonsense.

Common sense is still a real thing...I welcome the day when it rises up out of the ashes like the Phoenix.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Then I broke the rule last week as I used a Water Park ticket the same day I used a separate park ticket. Because we didn't have a ticket with a WP feature added as we only wanted a single WP entrance.

That's an apple in the orange basket...waterpark tickets don't superseed any gate passes

 

[BuckeyeBama]

I'm sorry...paying disney double for their lineup of attractions really makes no sense.

Common sense is still a real thing...I welcome the day when it rises up out of the ashes like the Phoenix.

It is called a value judgement. You can deem that it lacks sufficient value for you, but someone else can look at the exact same data and come to a opposite conclusion. Neither lacks common sense. They simply value the item differently.

 

[ThistleMae]

Don't forget to get the souvenir bucket - I heard they are giving free refills on topics like these!

I just sat down with my cup of tea and macadamia nut cookie...mmmm!

 

[Roxyfire]

I'm still looking for an official acknowledgement that the change party function even exists (outside of the MDE program itself).

I'm not sure what you mean by outside of the MDE program but I can go in right now with the MDE app, make a FP for myself somewhere (Mad Tea Party for example) then change the fastpass over to my son using the change party function.

 

[ThistleMae]

I didn't even know this was a thing until the new enforcement went into place. As I understand it, one of the reasons Disney decided to enforce their terms of service was to allow more same day fast passes to be opened up, for low and behold, same day use. And just from some comments I've seen, people have been finding more same day availability, especially for 4th plus FP.

I had read here and there that it was a "thing" but I didn't really have any clue how it worked. I too was interested in knowing what the "crack down" was...just to know what the problem was, not to scam Disney. So I'm glad this thread is allowed to be open and not closed. I was worried (probably stupidly) that because I have an old band from two years ago and a hard ticket, that if I tried to use my band there would be an issue. My plan is to use my band and not the hard ticket, because I love my band. So, good to know I'm legal...LOL!

 

[AngiTN]

I'm sorry...paying disney double for their lineup of attractions really makes no sense.

And I don't want to get into the "it's my opinion...so it can't be disproven" nonsense.

Common sense is still a real thing...I welcome the day when it rises up out of the ashes like the Phoenix.

Not going to disagree with you on this one. It doesn't make any sense to me either. Neither does paying for a VIP tour. But it does to some. Doesn't make them wrong. Or me right. Makes us value how we spend our money differently. And when you are talking about how someone spends the money they earn you (the collective you) can't give say what makes sense and what doesn't.

 

[ThistleMae]

I didn't realize they limit APs FPs to 7 days. I thought it was length of stay. Interesting.

Wow...I never knew this before! So if you are going for 10 days, u can only have 7 days of FP+? Or, can you then book more on your 7th day, for the rest of the days? I don't get it. Why would this be?

 

[robinb]

I had read here and there that it was a "thing" but I didn't really have any clue how it worked. I too was interested in knowing what the "crack down" was...just to know what the problem was, not to scam Disney. So I'm glad this thread is allowed to be open and not closed. I was worried (probably stupidly) that because I have an old band from two years ago and a hard ticket, that if I tried to use my band there would be an issue. My plan is to use my band and not the hard ticket, because I love my band. So, good to know I'm legal...LOL!

Totally street legal as long as your hard ticket is associated with the band .

 

[jade1]

Ahhh...so you're that one in the bushes...

...I stayed at AKV but spent little time on the property...and won't be back for a year and a half. The whole family is already off a year...

Much different though compared to a solid 2-3 times a calendar year since swiping my ID for the last time nearly 15 years ago...

So who's zoomin' who?

Wow this thread is growing, OK yea I was thinking you were down there a few months ago (and last summer and the previous spring), just was surprised at the "going on 2 years and not really missing it."

But heck yea-you are not alone on the year and a half away with TS Land and Star Wars Land looming.

Makes it a great time to visit currently IMO.

 

[jade1]

I'm hoping the availability of FP+ improves, as we ll as the 4th and 5th etc with this change. Has there been any feedback on that?

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I'm hoping the availability of FP+ improves, as we ll as the 4th and 5th etc with this change. Has there been any feedback on that?

It's only gonna get worse...until more capacity is added

 

[jade1]

It's only gonna get worse...until more capacity is added

Bummer, than this move wasn't any help at all-must not have been to big of an issue then.

 

[jade1]

Although this whole last year FP availability was better, just can always be better yet.

Hoping the crowds continue shrinking.