A while back I posted a thread about looking for a new camper. We thought we found one, but the price wasn't right. It had everything we were looking for, a slide out for extra floor space, oven, queen bed for us, and quad bunks for the 4 boys. We also have to keep the weight down between 4500-5000lbs. To keep the price down I think we need to give up some wants. What would you give up? Quad bunks? Oven? Do we really need all these things or can we manage without them. Did without for years in the popup. With that said we just found a KZ Sportsmen LE 272, no oven, slide or quad bunk. Does have a queen bed, double bottom bunk and top single bunk (for 3 of the boys), jack knife sofa(for our 4th son). Also has a microwave. What to do. I am afraid of buying something we won't be happy with but I am also afraid of the payment if we buy what we really want! What would you do?