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[dcfromva]

I have a slight preference for BCV (between BCV and BWV). But, I stay at BWV more often than BCV because of the STD view rooms and the point savings.

I think one of the biggest factors in the price difference between BCV and BWV is there have been fewer BCV contracts on the resale market at any given time--up until a few months ago. Looking at the Timeshare Store inventory now there are quite a few BCV (and most of those are over 200 point contracts). BWV currently only has a few resale contracts. As a result BWV and BCV prices seem to be a lot closer these days. I would chalk it up to supply and demand.

 

[Mickey'sApprentice]

on the differences between BCV and BWV...some people love the pool. That makes BCV an obvious choice.

Others love having standard points and looking out on that beautiful boardwalk view. Its not just a boardwalk view...its a great view of Crescent Lake, the Y&BC complex, and of Spaceship Earth.

 

[Shellandscott]

Besides the economy I think the major contributor to prices falling is that resales now have restrictions. I would love to buy resale to add at BCV or even VWL. But I don't want to be restricted. Having to remember which points can be used for Disney Collection and DCL and which can not. IMO.

 

[Dean]

Different strokes for different folks. We enjoyed our stay at BWV, and the resort rooms are quite similar. However, walking 15 minutes to get to the lobby was not of interest, and the pool area would inspire Stephen King to come up with a best seller, with images of that freaky clown slowly chomping down on children exiting the slide.
With small children, the pools are a huge factor. No zero entry area for us, with small kids, is a problem. The BWV pool is, frankly, ordinary to the point of kitschy, and we didn't like it. I know I'm not alone in this. Juxtapose that with a world class 3 acre pool facility at BCV that is so popular that they have to guard the entrance, and I think you have your difference in value. It's also hard to value the 2-3 days we can spend at the pool relaxing and feeling like we're on vacation while at BCV; when we were at BWV, after a few hours by the pool my girls were asking "what are we going to do today". We certainly couldn't spend 2-3 days there. Again, value is in the eye of the beholder.
We also find the BCV villas quieter and more accessible b/c of the smaller size. After pushing a stroller for 20 minutes through the BWV hallways, I needed a break.
Both are nice resorts. Each holds different value for different people, so I understand these are just varying opinions.

First, I'm not really talking opinion as the primary issue but factual information, the opinion is second in line but obviously comes into play. Each has it's plusses and minuses comparatively. The units are the same size but BCV is laid out better. One is closer to EPCOT, the other Hollywood studios. One has view options and a lower points options. One has dedicated 2 BR (sort of). Each is closer to the amenities of the inherent resort they are part of. SAB is great but the pool at BWV isn't shabby. BWV has likely the best Community room of all. My point ultimately is that from an objective standpoint there really isn't a lot of difference overall and that the price difference has always been smoke and mirrors related to opinion and personal preference over substance and that the difference in price was not sustainable.

I certainly don't know what will happen. I do think this will present an interesting dilemma at some point. Points will be had for cheap during the last 5-10 years of the life of these contracts, and points equal rooms, so I was really just curious if this issue could lead to a conflict between DVD and central cash reservations. I guess most think not, but I do think this will make them have to consider extensions. I am sure they have considered this issue, I guess we have plenty of time to wait and see what they come up with.

While I'm sure they've considered the issues and have some general ideas, I sincerely doubt they've made any real decisions for 30 years from now. IMO, the real issue besides what the dues are doing are how they decide to handle the last few years related to the fact that there are not enough rooms to use all the points that are potentially available. I think these decisions will need to be made and in place at least 5 years out and hopefully we the members will know what those decisions, options and rules will be.

A buy back program was what I thought of. But then I was thinking that OKW has a split "end date" with the extensions they sold. I would think that might confuse things a bit.

My guess is that the current DVD management is hoping they will be long in retirement before this has to be addressed. Or that some imagineer will come up with a creative way to transition the DVC resorts to another life.

OKW is the enigma and likely the only one that a resale of some sort is reasonably possible with the same expiration (2057).