What do you think of this DVC auction

[wdwstar]

auction link:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2194020595&category=1310




:irate::

thanks for the new cute smilies, i

 

[KathyR]

$5 to just talk to them about paying $14/pp! That is absolutely nuts! Plus, they have the info on the auction for how to access the DVC Members only pages including the password! Wow, that is a big load of you know what

 

[ClarabelleCow]

Well I just sent our friend Amber Howey a nice message that maybe it wasn't cool to list the website and the passwords on a public forum! That maybe they were for members only and that the reason we have a Members Only website was because it was JUST FOR MEMBERS! I can see someone asking for them, like say here, but to publicly publish them the wasy this person did!! WOW!

 

[Nana Sue]

I think that is terrible! Certainly not in the spirit of DVC. I personally think that member should be penalized somehow especially since they posted the owners web site and password.

 

[jcanary]

Why can't this be reported to member services? Something needs to be done. This is suppose to be a secured site and this person has invaded our privacy. I still can not believe that this person had the gall to post it. She could have sent them to this website to use the point calculator.

 

[d-r]

I know giving that user id with a password is going to tick a lot of people off, but when I think about it, I'm really not sure why the dvc page even bothers with the user id and password. It isn't like there is any individual information there. I think it is just a sales gimmick for DVC - when you buy in you get access to this special web site. Other than that, I can't see why they wouldn't let the public look at it. You'd think that potential buyers might be interested in the type of information they have there, which is basially just a members guidebook, with the point charts, different options, etc. Why limit that if you are going to be upfront with what you are selling (which DVC absolutely is)?

Back in the early 90s I was able to have a user name and ID at espn.sportszone.com that remembered who I was - it was an ID for bulletin boards, etc. It remembered stuff about me through cookies. When they became go.com that same user name and password followed me to all the Disney sites. I open one up, it tells me welcome by name. I go to the disneyclub.com site, it knows I am a member. I go to disneystore.com, it knows to give me a 10% dc discount, etc. Why on earth can't the dvc web site know who I am, let me check my points or reservations, whatever. Without that sort of individualized stuff the user name and password is pretty lame, imho - there really isn't any reason for it the user name that I can tell. Why is it there?

DR

PS this guy is a wild to think that someone is going to pay him $5 to rent his points for $14 - comparing a weekday night on points to the cost of staying rack rate!

 

[jmminarik]

I'm not sure what legalities have actually been breached here, but it is certainly unethical for this "entity" to publish access rights to material that is funded by and prepared for the consumption of the DVC membership. Ok, it's not like its a really secure username and password combination, but still.

I've mailed member services with the link to the auction. If it is in fact an issue for DVC, at least they know about it to send in the attack lawyers.

Someone with an e-bay account might want to see if this falls under their Intellectual Property policies.

-Joe

 

[InstImpres]

I wouldn't worry to much about the password info. There really is nothing sacred on that site and I know it is given out more often thaan it should be. As for posting it, I agree that is wrong, but I have no doubt like other times in the past, the mods will take it off.

As for the rental price, I am surprised they would try that on this site, since people are smarter and we have the rent/trade board. It does happen on e-bay though.

JMHO
Sandy

 

[wdwstar]

i contacted ebay safe harbor about the display of the members info and we will see if ebay does something about the auction:irate::

 

[ClarabelleCow]

Well I received a response from the seller to why she thought fit to list the members only password - her goes:

In a message dated 10/1/2003 1:36:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hotmail.com[/email] writes:
Don't write me complaining. I'm selling my points because I can't use them.
So here's an idea. Shut up and mind your own business. Thanks Jack A.....

I bet if we all contacted her, she would realize how wrong it was. And yes I know there is no real info there, but its the principal of it!!

Sorry for the edit - I didnt realize the person actuall e-mail address was posted, its one thing to contact thru e-bay, but not directly. Oops!!

 

[disneycrazed139]

Unless giving out the password publicly somehow infringes on our ability to view the site (too much web site traffic maybe) then it doesn't bother me that it is public at all. I agree with d-r that it is a sales gimmick in that you can't view the site until you are member certified. I'm sure Disney would care a lot more than I do!

As far as the $5.00 teaser to talk to him, I think it is ridiculous and somewhat entertaining. I wonder if anyone will fall for it. Hopefully not.

As far as asking $14/point, more power to him. I recently had a communication with someone who owns a very sought after property in Key West. It turned out a trade was not going to work out because I won't be able to get him the season/accomodations he requested. He offered to rent his propert to me instead for the FULL value of what it would cost to rent if I called the resort directly. 14/point is still significantly under rack rate. I'm not saying I would personally rent out for a profit like this clown, but even 14/point is a deal for non-owners.

 

[wdwstar]

we should vote the off the island

 

[Scratch42]

Scratch

 

[dianeschlicht]

I just sent an email to the seller saying I was disappointed they had put the members only information on a public forum, and that I would be contacting MS about it. I think perhaps if we all did that, she would take it out.

 

[wdwstar]

i too have been in contact with ebay and its slowlybeing taking care of i think, first ebay thought it was my auction and wanted me to know it was a violation according to ebays rules and regulations, now im working on "its not my auction, its amberhowey auction. lol well at least we know it is in violation with ebay.

 

[jmminarik]

Just got a return call from Jackie in Member Services...seems there's not much they can do about it...probably not "important" enough to waste lawyers on since Disney does have an interest in e-Bay sales and their copyrights and trademarks.

She did recommend contacting the member and requesting that they remove the information as that had worked in the past, but based on the apparant response by the seller, they're all about them and screw the rest of the world.

Now, given the seller's location, would I be overly mean if I wished a bull moose in rutt decided their back yard was a nice place to setup home for a few days.

-Joe

 

[Scat Cat]

Sometime between 1:15 and 1:30, the user ID and password information was
removed.

 

[jmminarik]

Originally posted by Scat Cat
Sometime between 1:15 and 1:30, the user ID and password information was
removed.

For people who still see the username and passwd, hit refresh in your browser.

I'm still not so sure i'd not wish a moose in rutt on this person though.

 

[wdwstar]

we did it , everyone

i still think we should vote the of the island, who needs a on the island anyways, i would rather put up with pal

 

[pmcpmc]

iS THIS HOW PEOPLE RENTED BEFORE THE DISBOARD WITHOUT THE PASSWORD MISTAKE