What do you think of "Mission Space"?

[TikiTikiFan]

This is what it looks like when you get in the ride- when it starts the front part (left) moves closer to you when they close it so the joystick is right in your hands.

 

[Eastern]

We haven’t done this ride, have always been curious about it as we walk by it in Epcot. I’ve heard it described as claustrophobic, I was just curious what makes it seem claustrophobic to riders.

The previous posts were good descriptions. It feels so tight and closed in when the ride starts, and you basically feel trapped. It really does feel like you're blasting off from Earth. My mind was arguing between panicking and saying wait, we're at Disney. Just didn't have a good time on this ride. Once I was trapped on an elevator for 1/2 hour and I started feeling uncomfortable after the first 15 minutes. MS was immediate.

 

[Chrissy-Mickey]

I've tried it twice and had no physical response to it, but it's so boring that I don't bother anymore.

 

[sethschroeder]

I think the move to more thrill rides

I wouldn't really say they are moving to more thrill rides though. They are just adding finally a couple thrills rides. Only like 25-33% of rides are "thrill".

In Epcot it was the addition of Cosmic Rewind but also adding Ratatouille and now cancelled Mary Poppins.

Maybe you consider Star Wars thrill based but you have MMRR plus things like Frozen.

Pandora was split between the two if you consider FOP a thrill ride.

I was just curious what makes it seem claustrophobic to riders.

Just the console coming in on you.

It feels so tight and closed in when the ride starts, and you basically feel trapped.

See I view it as part of the experience.

Yes if are claustrophobic at all you likely will have an issue but someone who is not should be good.

 

[piccolopat]

I wouldn't really say they are moving to more thrill rides though. They are just adding finally a couple thrills rides. Only like 25-33% of rides are "thrill". In Epcot it was the addition of Cosmic Rewind but also adding Ratatouille and now cancelled Mary Poppins. Maybe you consider Star Wars thrill based but you have MMRR plus things like Frozen. Pandora was split between the two if you consider FOP a thrill ride. Just the console coming in on you. See I view it as part of the experience. Yes if are claustrophobic at all you likely will have an issue but someone who is not should be good.

I miss the original dark rides and shows of Epcot - Horizons, World of Motion, Universe of Energy, Cranium Command, Kitchen Kabaret/Food Rocks, original Journey to Imagination, etc. Those rides could be ridden by anyone young or old. Those rides had an element of education to them that made them stand out from the thrill rides that replaced them. We like rides like TT but wish it was added on to the pavilion rather than having replaced World of Motion. We love Soarin (the original - not impressed with the CGI of the newer version) but loved Kitchen Kabaret and then Food Rocks and it would have been nice if they could have kept those while adding on Soarin.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

I would love just once they'd program it so if you hit the buttons and stuff wrong the video shows it crashing and at the end they'd be saying I knew we shouldn't have sent that rookie ______ ( whichever one hit the buttons wrong) up there.

 

[nursejackie]

I've only rode green. Many years ago we queued for Orange, listened to the mission instructions then when we were waiting to enter the pod I ran out and left my sister on her own. What a chicken, and I still haven't conquered it.

 

[Skippyboo]

Did orange side once, felt super weird afterwards. The Green side is boring. I wonder if they could make it more like MFSR and have the buttons actually do something that effects the mission or have random different missions

 

[NashvilleMama]

Just the console coming in on you.

See I view it as part of the experience.

Yes if are claustrophobic at all you likely will have an issue but someone who is not should be good.

Disagree. I have zero claustrophobia and nearly lost my mind on this ride, wanting to scream for them to let me out. Sheer panic almost set in but realized my kids were there and I had to be the grown up.

 

[tommygunn]

Not my thing at all. Orange makes me want to chunk and green is too tame. Something in between would be ok. Although I have to say it’s better than Smugglers Run.

 

[TiggerBouncy]

Sounds like you have only ridden the green side, because it was a pretty good ride on the Orange Side. I liked the Green side because it was the same as the orange except no spin to simulate G's. I have not seen the new green yet. Maybe next trip. I have always been able to ride either one with no problems, but in later years I have done mostly the Green side because the line is shorter.

I preferred the old show on Green when it matched Orange. The new one is just.... meh. Very disappointing.

So green side doesn’t spin at all anymore? We’re going on Monday, my 11 year old wants to do it. He was too young last time we were there, 7 years ago. But at that time green was all I could handle. The g force was my limit, didn’t care for the claustrophobic feeling, but figured I could stomach it once more. But...if there is no more spinning and g force on green side, I’m not sure I could tolerate orange and then he won’t really get to experience it fully.

I am sure it spins somewhat in order to simulate the weightlessness. But it's much less pronounced, and you do not feel like you are spinning. You no longer get a free facelift with every ride. I could be wrong in this - I have not seen the inside of the ride when it's running, but you still get a little weightless feeling, and the only way I would think they could mimic some of that is with spinning.

I would love just once they'd program it so if you hit the buttons and stuff wrong the video shows it crashing and at the end they'd be saying I knew we shouldn't have sent that rookie ______ ( whichever one hit the buttons wrong) up there.

They did that. It's called Smugglers Run.

I miss the original dark rides and shows of Epcot - Horizons, World of Motion, Universe of Energy, Cranium Command, Kitchen Kabaret/Food Rocks, original Journey to Imagination, etc. Those rides could be ridden by anyone young or old. Those rides had an element of education to them that made them stand out from the thrill rides that replaced them. We like rides like TT but wish it was added on to the pavilion rather than having replaced World of Motion. We love Soarin (the original - not impressed with the CGI of the newer version) but loved Kitchen Kabaret and then Food Rocks and it would have been nice if they could have kept those while adding on Soarin.

Yes... you have hit it exactly. Magic Kingdom aside, Disney used to be about education. EPCOT first - future world was all about learning about the land, sea, the human body, the history of transportation, energy, etc.... The rides were a way to make it more entertaining. Even the communicores were about education (I used to love them when they were more showcases of modern technology). The world showcase was about educating people about the world (for those of us with neither the time or money to go to Mexico, France, China, etc).

MGM studios was also about education. How they make movies (remember that the Backlot Tour used to start with them recreating a scene in a movie using sets). What is now launch bay showed you how animation was done and you could see actual animators working. They even enticed us with hints or previews of the next big thing.

Disney has lost it's way. It's no longer educational. It's just thrill rides based on movies and IP.

 

[TiggerBouncy]

I wouldn't really say they are moving to more thrill rides though. They are just adding finally a couple thrills rides. Only like 25-33% of rides are "thrill".

In Epcot it was the addition of Cosmic Rewind but also adding Ratatouille and now cancelled Mary Poppins.

Maybe you consider Star Wars thrill based but you have MMRR plus things like Frozen.

Pandora was split between the two if you consider FOP a thrill ride.

But it's not just Thrill rides. Piccolopat hit the nail on the head.

We have lost The Wonders of Life - which had things about how Emotion worked. How you burned Fat. Where energy came from. All about the human body. We have gained "Play!" where you learn.... nothing?

We have lost The world of Energy - a show about where the worlds energy came from historically and where we were looking to get it in the future. It was a cool fun fact that the entire building was powered by solar - "you are riding on the sun". They attached an awesome dark ride with dinosaurs. We are gaining - a roller coaster based on IP (nothing educational in there). A ton of lost potential.... Energy is a very evolving subject - the search for cold fusion. Micro-reactors which are awesome. Some of the concepts we are using with Natural Gas Conservation. Recent improvements in Solar and Wind. That was what the pavilion was MEANT to be.

We have lost Kitchen Cabaret - which became Food Rocks, which was fine - both about Nutrition and eating healthy. We have gained Soarin - don't get me wrong... I love Soarin... But there is little educational about it.

We lost Imagination - which explored how imagination works and we got a really poor figment ride.

We lost Horizons - about our future of exploration - in Space, Under the Sea, etc. We gained Mission Space - not much educational really. So much lost here with the moving to commercial space exploration.

We lost the World of Transportation - and got Test Track which was originally REALLY COOL - I liked the "This is the car without anti-lock brakes. This is your car WITH anti-lock brakes". They lost all of that education about how car works and the technology behind it and now it's just a ride. So much more potential there unfortunately.... I would love to learn about self driving cars. Hybrid cars. Regenerative Braking. So much new technology to explore, but nope. We get none of it.

Going to the World Showcase - we are losing street performers that teach us about the culture and history of these places and gaining a few rides that do not teach us anything (as much as I love Anna, Maelstrom was always a better ride to me because it taught us about Norway). Ratatouille is just not anything about France as nice as the ride may be.

Lets move to Hollywood studios... We have lost Backlot tour - about how movies are made. We gained Slinky (and I love SDD, but again - education removed, thrill added).

We have lost whatever that area that is now launch bay was called where they taught you about animation. I loved the cool little movie they showed and watching the animators work and gained Launch Bay.

We lost Lights, Camera, Action! which showed how stunts were filmed and we gained GE. Again, I love GE.... but it's not the intent of what HS was SUPPOSED to be.

We lost the Great Movie Ride - a history of movies and gained MMRR - which may be fun and nice, but it's just a ride.

The same could be said (but to a lesser extent) of Animal Kingdom. Much of AK however that has been developed was under-utilized land, so I can't complain there as much.

We are not just losing dark rides and replacing them with thrill rides. We are losing the identity of Disney. EPCOT's intention was that of education. The Pavilions - each a deep dive into a particular subject - Sea, Land, Imagination, Transportation, Energy, Biology, and Exploration - were supposed to retain and evolve as their subjects evolve - staying on the cutting edge of showing us what we have learned and what we are learning now. MGM's intention was not "rides based on IP" but learning how movies are made - all kinds of movies - and exploration of the world of hollywood. We are replacing all of it with "Oh, that was fun".

{Edit] Sorry for the long rant.... I feel passionately about the subject I guess.

 

[sethschroeder]

But it's not just Thrill rides. Piccolopat hit the nail on the head.

Thats fine but that was not the original post I responded to:
https://www.disboards.com/threads/what-do-you-think-of-mission-space.3818696/#post-62477165
It only simply said the move to thrill rides. I was simply stating thrill rides are still a small portion of the overall list of rides let alone the various entertainment options.

we are losing street performers that teach us about the culture and history of these places and gaining a few rides

I wouldn't say performers are being replaced by rides though. The performers were likely being removed regardless. I think part of the issue is that rides are left way to long without updates and then there is a misconception that it needs to be completely ripped out instead of just updated.

Another issue is that IP has to be pushed in to every part of the park. Here is hoping that Figment gets his own show on Disney+ before they decide to remove him from Epcot.

 

[TiggerBouncy]

Thats fine but that was not the original post I responded to:
https://www.disboards.com/threads/what-do-you-think-of-mission-space.3818696/#post-62477165
It only simply said the move to thrill rides. I was simply stating thrill rides are still a small portion of the overall list of rides let alone the various entertainment options.

Oh, I know. I was just expanding on it though. Because I also said earlier on that I was dismayed by the removal of dark rides and replaced with Thrill rides.

It's just as I read your reply, it hit me that it was not just the Thrill ride aspect of it. It's that the nature of the rides are changing. Your point was valid that on balance, they are adding slow rides and thrill rides. You mention for example that along with Cosmic Rewind we are also getting Ratatouille (and cancelled Mary Poppins), so that's a 2 for 1 ratio. I do not disagree. It's just as I was thinking it through, it occurred to me that the new rides just don't feel right, and this is part of the reason.

The other point though is that although the ratio is low, it's gaining. Look at EPCOT's opening rides. There was not a single thrill ride. It opened with Communicore (no ride), Horizons (dark), Imagination(dark), Living Seas(dark), World of Motion(dark), Universe of Energy(dark), The Land(dark), Wonders of Life(dark), and Spaceship Earth(dark). Not a single Thrill ride among them.

This is now the 4th pavilion to switch from a dark ride to a thrill ride. The land is arguable since it has 2 rides. So in future world, we are approaching a 50/50 split.

I wouldn't say performers are being replaced by rides though. The performers were likely being removed regardless. I think part of the issue is that rides are left way to long without updates and then there is a misconception that it needs to be completely ripped out instead of just updated.

Eh. I wouldn't argue the point. But my point is in balance, there are less equity performances that are cultural, and there are now rides that are purely IP based that the only defining reason they belong in that pavilion is because they happen to take place in that country and have no cultural value at all.

Another issue is that IP has to be pushed in to every part of the park. Here is hoping that Figment gets his own show on Disney+ before they decide to remove him from Epcot.

I will just say I fear for figment's life. I really, really do. Every year I worry more and more. I was a figment fan from the beginning and have a lot of merch. I have a stuffed plush of him from the 80's and a pin from almost every year since 2005 or so. But I fear he's going to go through the same journey as Orange Bird (which means we will see him again in 40 years or so).

 

[goofyernmost]

I preferred the old show on Green when it matched Orange. The new one is just.... meh. Very disappointing.

I agree, I liked the orange show better, but since I have COPD, the acceleration parts made it hard to breath. I don't care much for the green side now.

I am sure it spins somewhat in order to simulate the weightlessness. But it's much less pronounced, and you do not feel like you are spinning. You no longer get a free facelift with every ride. I could be wrong in this - I have not seen the inside of the ride when it's running, but you still get a little weightless feeling, and the only way I would think they could mimic some of that is with spinning.

I don't believe that it spins at all. The tilting of the cabin simulates acceleration by tilting back and even though it isn't all that noticeable the forward tilt combined with the image on the screen gives the illusion of weightlessness. To be honest I never was able to feel any weightless feeling even in orange. In orange it just felt like we were slowing down, which in reality we were.

 

[disneygirlsng]

The "thrill" rides (I use that term loosely) at WDW are all pretty mild, so I'm in the camp of not minding the addition of more "thrill" rides. Though I definitely wouldn't mind adding in something that is more thrilling, but I do have other parks that I can go to for actual thrill rides.

I also don't mind the addition of IP, especially when it's done right. I go to Disney for Disney, so seeing actual Disney characters is a win for me. But everyone is different.

 

[Flamingeaux]

I'll never do orange again!!! Green is a filler attraction. It is a good way to kill time if the line isn't too long. I'd never wait in a line that had a posted wait time over 15-20 minutes.

 

[TiggerBouncy]

I don't believe that it spins at all. The tilting of the cabin simulates acceleration by tilting back and even though it isn't all that noticeable the forward tilt combined with the image on the screen gives the illusion of weightlessness.

That makes total sense. So yeah, then probably no spin at all. Just tilt like in the other simulators.

 

[MeridaAnn]

I've only done the green side once so far. It was pretty, but I was slightly disappointed with the storyline of a hurricane (or it might have just been a giant storm, I don't recall the exact details) showing up and covering the whole state of Florida in the time it took to do just one orbit. Our storms don't pop up out of nowhere *that* fast. It's not like the orange mission where they put you in "hypersleep" to skip time. But that's also me being very nit-picky - overall it was a nice ride, although I'll still usually go for orange if I'm riding because I love the full liftoff simulation.

 

[goofyernmost]

I've only done the green side once so far. It was pretty, but I was slightly disappointed with the storyline of a hurricane (or it might have just been a giant storm, I don't recall the exact details) showing up and covering the whole state of Florida in the time it took to do just one orbit. Our storms don't pop up out of nowhere *that* fast. It's not like the orange mission where they put you in "hypersleep" to skip time. But that's also me being very nit-picky - overall it was a nice ride, although I'll still usually go for orange if I'm riding because I love the full liftoff simulation.

I for one, do not understand the reason for changing the show to begin with. It was great that people that couldn't physically handle orange could get close to the same experience in the green side. It just makes more sense to have the choices for everyone and still experience the same thing. I chose the green side because it is easier on my respiratory system and that was the only reason because the show was the same and I didn't feel like I was missing out on anything. Now I do. I'm more tempted to give orange a try again just so I can see the old story. It was much more fun.

A little confession here. I avoided Mission: Space for a few years basically because I kept hearing about how people were getting sick on it and even the two people that died from unknown, at the time, physical problems. Then one day I was over by the attraction chewing on a mutant Turkey leg and said to myself. Damn guy, you have never been motion sick in your life, what makes you think that it is going to happen now. If people that have a history of motion sickness decide to go on it, they really shouldn't complain if they get sick. The only warning that I thought applied to me at the time was the High Blood Pressure one. At the time I was on medication and my BP was coming up normal every time for years, so I went on. You folks don't know me but I am famous for my lack of visible enthusiasm for most everything, especially theme park rides. My first ride was in the company of a Japanese family and myself. At the end of the ride a yelled out in a loud voice the words... "THAT WAS AWESOME". I can honestly say that I had never said that with so much enthusiasm, and lack of my usual sarcastic tone, in my entire life. The problem was no one I knew was there to hear it. I did notice the breathing problem at the time during takeoff and the sling around the moon. At the time I didn't know I had COPD. I did learn to just breath deeper during that time and it counteracted the problem.