What do you think about the Early Morning Magic Fantasyland ?

[Hopeful8]

I just called. It's all sold out. I wonder how many tickets are sold. How limited is limited?

Is anyone else thinking of changing their MK dates because of this? I am.

 

[Praying Colonel]

I just called. It's all sold out. I wonder how many tickets are sold. How limited is limited?

That's the $64 question--or $69 question, as the case may be.

There's speculation as to the number, but no one knows. And no one knows if it will remain at that number if it continues. What's the old Disney spiel? "Subject to change without notice"?

 

[kevgraub]

Even if there are 1,500 EMM'ers in the park at rope drop, most of them will be riding attractions at park open.

Although no one knows for sure how many tickets are being sold, I cannot imagine that it is anywhere close to 1,500. Pinocchio village Haus has seating for around 400 people. To accommodate 1,500 people, they would have to turn over each seat in the restaurant approximately 4 times in a 90 minute window. Simply no way that happens.

I think the actual number is probably in the range of 500-800.

 

[pens4821]

I'm not surprised at all it's sold out. I know most here are upset it may impact their touring style, but it's really not all that horrible of value. It's surely not cheap, but an AYCTE breakfast is going to cost near $30 anyway, so you're paying $30 for a couple (I would assume) rides on the longest wait time attractions at MK.

 

[Mom2J&J]

Help me understand the layout and timing in FL a bit. If we have a PPO ADR at BOG and leave at 8:40 to wait at the holding area until we can ride 7DMT, do we still not have an advantage over RD people? I know the problem is that all the EMM people will now be in front of us, but does it still hold any advantage to be INSIDE the park at RD time?

I honestly don't know, just trying to gather info.

 

[jbish]

Actually, you planned to take advantage of a perk that is guaranteed nowhere by Disney but has been reported here as a general "standard operating procedure." Disney just closed the loophole before you got to take advantage of it. The same thing happened to me, and it stinks, but I acknowledge that they never guaranteed me an early ride on 7DMT with my PPO BOG ADR. I just assumed it'd be available when I made the ADR. Now I, too, will be trying to hop in the standby queue after my ADR in hopes of a short line.

I never said I was planning on riding before 9 am. I was planning on being in line so that when the gates opened, I would be in the first wave of guests, presumably giving me a 5 minute wait, at most. The only thing I was guaranteed was early entrance into the park along with anyone else that had an ADR and I made my plans accordingly. My frustrations lie in the fact that I was playing within the rules and then Disney went and changed the rules on me. I may now be standing behind 500 people before the gates even open.

ETA: I see you reread my original post, so I apologize if this sounds like I'm harping on something you addressed. But still want to make my point.

 

[kevgraub]

Clearly the very unscientific poll on this thread showing 86% believe this to be a bad value does not correlate with the masses if several dates are already sold out.

My best.

I agree that these polls are wildly inaccurate.

However, even if you take the numbers on the poll, it shows sufficient support for the event to be a sellout. MK averages over 50,000 visitors per day. Using the numbers on this poll, that means 43,000 of them think this is a waste of money, and about 7,000 others who would at least consider buying the tickets. If only 10% of those that would consider buying the tickets actually do so, you have 700 tickets sold, which is very likely a sellout.

 

[Vernie822]

Is anyone else thinking of changing their MK dates because of this? I am.

If I could be flexible and change mine, I would. We are rope drop people and like to get in early and get on as many rides as we can before lunch.

 

[Mom2J&J]

Is anyone else thinking of changing their MK dates because of this? I am.

We've already secured FP+ for our dates. Is there a way to "see" if there are FP+ available without making permanent changes? I think I'm in that special group of people that's just going to have to deal with it.

 

[MainMom]

Is anyone else thinking of changing their MK dates because of this? I am.

Nope, not at all.

 

[maryj11]

Is anyone else thinking of changing their MK dates because of this? I am.

Yes I am. We are only there for 5 days so it is really hard to decide . I have 2 MK and both are on the morning events. If I change my days it puts me with AK on an morning EMH which I really don't want to do. AK is one park that we are looking forward to because surely by then the night time activities and ROL will be open.
Anyone have anyone suggestions on if we should change our dates or just keep them?

 

[mindylee847]

I don't *know* what the traffic flow would be around this event, but the "what-if" scenarios I'd have to be playing out if I'm a regular RD person on this morning are:
- I'm using RD to hit 7 dwarfs or PP - EMM have beaten me there and I don't have the short line I anticipated
- I'm using RD strictly as crowd avoidance (this is me) I head to Adventureland while the RD masses swarm to FL. What if the EEM folks are done with FL and are now filling my (previously empty) adventureland? It would be a much smaller scale, but similar to arriving at regular opening on an EMH day.

My husband and I are doing the event and I can tell you that our plan right after breakfast (which we are going to hit at 9:30) is to go directly to Adventureland for our early morning time we have left.

 

[Lothlórien]

I personally think it is really silly and shows how greedy Disney has become. I also see it as something that Disney is using as a way to test and measure just how far they can push things.
However, if other guests choose to spend their money that way, that is totally up to them and I hope they enjoy their time.

 

[RaginforDisneyRoy]

I personally think it is really silly and shows how greedy Disney has become. I also see it as something that Disney is using as a way to test and measure just how far they can push things.
However, if other guests choose to spend their money that way, that is totally up to them and I hope they enjoy their time.

This is the market. WDW has a demand vs. capacity problem, so they are dealing with it. I personally don't have an issue with it. People have gotten pretty out-of-hand with the rope drop anyway, so that part of it doesn't bother me at all.

 

[MakiraMarlena]

if they really are selling out, there are a couple of possibilities: either the capacity is far lower than almost anyone here thinks it will be, or the event is far more popular than almost anyone here thinks it will be.

I suppose we will see how "silly" Disney thinks it is.

 

[Minnie222]

It is very expensive to ride just those 3 rides at that ticket price. I really don't need to ride them "that" bad.

If Disney really want to capitalize on these morning hours, make it a rare character meet!! I think the tickets will sell better.
People are willing to pay for "limited edition" and "exclusive" stuff, not rides that are there all the time.

And if I want early morning hours, can book a campsite and do morning EMH. It would be much cheaper and cover more people.

 

[RaginforDisneyRoy]

if they really are selling out, there are a couple of possibilities: either the capacity is far lower than almost anyone here thinks it will be, or the event is far more popular than almost anyone here thinks it will be.

I suppose we will see how "silly" Disney thinks it is.

I haven't seen any confirmation that some of the EMM have sold out, but when we booked ours last night it was the first one our agent had handled, so I doubt it. Capacity has to be pretty low because WDW is doing this as a test for future EMM at other lands; they don't want the bad pub.

 

[Mikie]

It is very expensive to ride just those 3 rides at that ticket price. I really don't need to ride them "that" bad.

If Disney really want to capitalize on these morning hours, make it a rare character meet!! I think the tickets will sell better.
People are willing to pay for "limited edition" and "exclusive" stuff, not rides that are there all the time.

And if I want early morning hours, can book a campsite and do morning EMH. It would be much cheaper and cover more people.

Obviously (sellouts!) Some people are willing to pay for the experience as described, but personally i agree with you. I dont like to try to quantify my value per minute, but at $69, we're looking at my personal value calculation of $9 for what i would have spent on a CS breakfast and $60 for rides. I only have exclusive access from 7:45-9, so i put $0 value on the 9-10 hour when everyone can ride. If it takes me 15 min to do each ride, I've paid $12 per ride and ridden 5 times. This would compare to me doing only 10 attractions all day long on a $120 ticket. Since i buy multi-day tickets and my one day cost is far less than $120, and i easily do 16+ attractions on a full MK day, the value just isnt there at all for this 75 min exclusive time.

The math obviously gets a lot better (in Disney's favor) if I assign a disney buffet value of $30 to the meal and $39 for rides, which means $8 per ride. But it still doesn't stack up for me.

 

[erikajoe]

I booked it yesterday morning online. There are none available as of this AM for May 7th. I booked it because we had a BOG and I am worried that it will mess up our plan so I'm spending my rivers of light money on it and just doing it.

 

[kaytieeldr]

It is very expensive to ride just those 3 rides at that ticket price. I really don't need to ride them "that" bad.

If Disney really want to capitalize on these morning hours, make it a rare character meet!! I think the tickets will sell better.
People are willing to pay for "limited edition" and "exclusive" stuff, not rides that are there all the time.

And if I want early morning hours, can book a campsite and do morning EMH. It would be much cheaper and cover more people.

Most posters don't think EMM guests will get enough return on investment with three attractions with a total hourly capacity over about 3,000, plus a buffet breakfast.

Even if the Character Meet were limited to one minute per party, that's still only 60 parties. Really, really, really poor value.