What do you do with people that cut in line to meet up with group?

[maxiesmom]

Only when relating this to WDW it's more complicated than simply doing the right thing and standing in line....

I have found too that only on the Dis will people think the ones who have manners and do the right thing should just step aside and let those who are rude walk all over them.

 

[Belle102498]

I personally don't care if people "jump" the line to get to the rest of their family. I mean, I'm in line, and I will get on the ride eventually. I let them go, and it just gives me more time to be with my family. Take it as it comes, and find the good in all things. Getting angry while at Disney is going to ruin your vacation...and possibly your family's...not the line jumpers. In fact, you might be giving them a little bit of pixie dust by letting them do it....

 

[JimmyV]

Only when relating this to WDW it's more complicated than simply doing the right thing and standing in line.... standing in line is indeed the right thing to do unless the system changes or if you are given permission to move. No argument here.
if it was so simple then you would not have to post repeatedly explaining how wonderful and simple it all is, and trying to change so many people's minds...actually, all new ideas take time to be accepted. It was mentioned earlier that some people freaked when the Rapunzel line was a "one person per group wait in line" system. Disney got it right, but the radical change caused consternation. Only with repeated tries and repeated explanation can that confusion and stubbornness be overcome. It took a while to convince the masses that the earth wasn't flat.
and clearly, not everyone buys into that system, as it pertains to WDW...

They won't until Disney blesses it, because Disney is never wrong. But how many people who can't understand how this works flew to MCO on Southwest and queued up into a line according to its system? How many got out of that line to use the rest room or go to Starbuck's only to slide right back into line in their prior spot. Did anyone shout: "Cutter!"?

 

[Rip]

These threads are always kinda funny. Personally, I don't let it bother me. The reality is that in almost every line there are points where it is wide enough for someone to try and slip by you. For those that say they block the line and never let anyone by, there may come a time when you're at one of those points in the line and you really have to openly try and physically block someone. I understand your "right" to try it, but sooner or later you are going to have someone knock you out of their way. Personally it's just not worth it to me. My temper is short enough as it is, something like that would escalate entirely too quickly and ultimately end up with me being escorted from the park.

 

[maxiesmom]

They won't until Disney blesses it, because Disney is never wrong. But how many people who can't understand how this works flew to MCO on Southwest and queued up into a line according to its system? How many got out of that line to use the rest room or go to Starbuck's only to slide right back into line in their prior spot. Did anyone shout: "Cutter!"?

Most people will tell you there is a difference between someone who was already in line getting back into the same spot, and someone who was never in line to begin with shoving by others to move towards the front.

 

[kaytieeldr]

So where are all these complaints when the guy in front of you at Pecos Bill's orders for his entire family. We simply shouldn't allow that. You have no one to order for you, so the guy in front of you should have to have his entire family in line just because you have to stand in line too.

Apparently, places like Legoland already use such a system, and WDW is using it for character queues. Look. This system won't be implemented any tme soon, but if tweaks were made such that solo travelers could use it, (such as a take-a-number approach), my guess is that you would really enjoy your newfound free time.

LegoLand has an attached play area at each line. People don't wander away and come back later when whoever in their party gets to the head of the line. Disney encouraging just one person to wait in line for certain characters doesn't mean they expect everyone else to wander around
Magic Kingdom.

 

[Mkrop]

They won't until Disney blesses it, because Disney is never wrong. But how many people who can't understand how this works flew to MCO on Southwest and queued up into a line according to its system? How many got out of that line to use the rest room or go to Starbuck's only to slide right back into line in their prior spot. Did anyone shout: "Cutter!"?

How am I cutting when I am given a specific boarding number???

Also people have been given numbers at Walmart and other places on Black Friday and that doesnt always work out so well.

 

[MrRob]

How does the thought process in someone's brain that "Gee, all these other people are in line, waiting their turn. Think I will just shove by them all. Waiting is for everyone but me!"?

Pretty much, yeah. The unfortunately after effect of raising a generation to think they're all special snowflakes.

 

[JimmyV]

Most people will tell you there is a difference between someone who was already in line getting back into the same spot, and someone who was never in line to begin with shoving by others to move towards the front.

But this thread proves otherwise. There are many here who argue for a "bathroom emergency" only exception and others who say that the whole family should get out of line if one person has to leave for any reason. There is absolutely no uniform agreement here that people who were once ahead of you are entitled to reclaim their spot if they have to get out of line for any reason, odd as that might seem.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Wasn't an attack at all! Maybe a bit smug...but certainly not uncivil.

There is nothing left to explain...I look at queues as basically all the same. A way to wait for...something. My DMV license, a Dole Whip, meat at a deli counter, a concert, an iPhone, a ride on Peter Pan, a banking transaction, an elevator at a tourist destination etc etc etc.

And in almost all except Peter Pan, no one would ever expect every person in the party to be present 100% of the time in the queue.

It seems you think each of these other queues is somehow unique and that there should be one set of accepted rules for all of them and another set of accepted rules for ride queues. And you are not alone! So many agree with you....

But there is nothing left to explain or argue about. you see it your way I see it mine.

I even do it your way!

What's more civil than that?

In almost all those cases, I would absolutely expect each individual to wait in line. How could you get any driver's license except your own? Meat at a deli counter - surely you wouldn't let shoppers without tickets order with you ahead of shoppers with higher numbers than yours? Concert tickets, iPhone5, anything with limited availability? Yes, everybody should be in line from the beginning. I don't know anyone who doesn't wait in line for a banking transaction - I don't know any bank that's set up for this.

And did you really mean no one would ever expect every person in the party to be present 100% of the time in the queue for an elevator at a tourist destination? How would that work?

 

[andyman8]

To be honest, one, two, or even six people won't add more than one or two minutes to your wait (not even that), so from a logistical standpoint, it's really not a big deal.

I think most of it is mental, though. People are already aggravated that they have to wait and anyone who makes them wait even a second longer "shall not pass." Just my thoughts...

 

[JimmyV]

How am I cutting when I am given a specific boarding number???

Exactly! You aren't. So if WDW could devise a similar system when the line gets big, you'd have a "boarding number" and people couldn't complain. Sort of a "Fast Pass" for all riders, except that you would be given a boarding number rather than a vague return time. I suspect that this is what the Nextgen FP will be. Many more FPs given out, but with much more restrictive return times. Right now, the return time is limited to a specific hour. Now, picture how it would look if it were narrowed down to a 15 minute window. Now, picture the system with that 15 minute window, but there is no standby line to merge with. This is heady stuff. A small group of people told to return at a specific time to board. Bam! You'd have a system very much like Southwest Airlines.

 

[heyitsmejosh]

i dont get what everyone is all worried about anyway half the rides lump people into one big room to resort the line anyway.. the if a couple people get in front of you the impact will be pretty much nothing.. so what difference does it really make

 

[kaytieeldr]

To be honest, one, two, or even six people won't add more than one or two minutes to your wait (not even that), so from a logistical standpoint, it's really not a big deal.

I think most of it is mental, though. People are already aggravated that they have to wait and anyone who makes them wait even a second longer "shall not pass." Just my thoughts...

You'd be wrong. Aggravated? No. Just reasonable.

How much time line cutters add to one's wait depends on several factors:
the total number of line cutters between when you enter the queue and when you get to board; the vehicle capacity; whether you're in the FP or SB line where applicable; the attraction cycle.

Two people rejoining their party at Spaceship Earth (if they could, given the narrowness of the lane) will have a negligible effect on others waiting, since this is a continuous load ride.
Eight pepole cutting the Soarin' line can bump a couple of standby parties another twenty or more minutes.
You get a family reunion catching up with their placeholder at Ellen's Energy Adventure (extreme, I know), some people who waited in line are going to have an additional 45 minutes' wait.

 

[KellyNY]

sorry but the inconvenience to my family is more important than someone i dont know being inconvenienced by 2 people really? sorry...I think my family comes first..and i would hope you would feel the same way about yours

And this is why we have cutting in line problems. OK, your family comes first, then I can say that my family comes first and simply refuse to move for your convenience, how about that? Will I be a jerk to do so, guess not, why would I move, I do not care about you, I just do not want to move, even if your family right infront of me. Is this kind of attitude you want to have around you?

 

[KellyNY]

Wasn't an attack at all! Maybe a bit smug...but certainly not uncivil.

There is nothing left to explain...I look at queues as basically all the same. A way to wait for...something. My DMV license, a Dole Whip, meat at a deli counter, a concert, an iPhone, a ride on Peter Pan, a banking transaction, an elevator at a tourist destination etc etc etc.

And in almost all except Peter Pan, no one would ever expect every person in the party to be present 100% of the time in the queue.

It seems you think each of these other queues is somehow unique and that there should be one set of accepted rules for all of them and another set of accepted rules for ride queues. And you are not alone! So many agree with you....

But there is nothing left to explain or argue about. you see it your way I see it mine.

I even do it your way!

What's more civil than that?

Yes it was attack, it was not about seeing things different ways but about you jumping on me with personal attack because I dared to disagree with your examples. I have really nothing else to say to you.

 

[andyman8]

You'd be wrong. Aggravated? No. Just reasonable.

How much time line cutters add to one's wait depends on several factors:
the total number of line cutters between when you enter the queue and when you get to board; the vehicle capacity; whether you're in the FP or SB line where applicable; the attraction cycle.

Two people rejoining their party at Spaceship Earth (if they could, given the narrowness of the lane) will have a negligible effect on others waiting, since this is a continuous load ride.
Eight pepole cutting the Soarin' line can bump a couple of standby parties another twenty or more minutes.
You get a family reunion catching up with their placeholder at Ellen's Energy Adventure (extreme, I know), some people who waited in line are going to have an additional 45 minutes' wait.

Firstly, the definition of aggravated.

aggravate - (noun) - to annoy; irritate; exasperate

If you attempt to cut someone off, you are obviously upset or annoyed, thus they have aggravated you.

Secondly, because of Spaceship Earth's continuously moving loader, it would actually have less of an effect than it would for an attraction that loads "one vehicle at a time."

With Soarin', each movie is about 4 minutes, add two for boarding and that's six minutes. Depending on where the "cutting" takes place, you may have a chance to just be put in the other "concourse" (remember there are two theaters).

With Ellen (gotta love Ellen), I've never waited for that (even on Fourth of July), but if someone actually had to wait, it would only be 8 minutes because the pre-show is just shy of that.

Finally, the two above are "extreme" situations. For most attractions at WDW, "cutting" would result in no more than an additional one to two minutes in line.

One thing I've learned in life: pick your battles.

 

[LucyBC80]

I have found too that only on the Dis will people think the ones who have manners and do the right thing should just step aside and let those who are rude walk all over them.

Yep, if we stand our ground and ask that everyone follow the rules, we're rude yet the true rude ones think they are doing nothing wrong.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

You know what I mean; those people who have a member of their group stand in line. Then several members of the group or family come through the line saying 'excuse me' like they have a special place in line ahead of you saved.
This happened to me at several rides including the safari at AK, TT at Epcot, Star tours at DHS. I can't think of more off the top of my head but it did happen at every park(also @ universal but the lines there were in general shorter).
Would I be right in NOT letting these line cutters through? What do you guys do? Just let them barge through? I don't want to start a whole thing with someone in line, but I do feel it is really unfair to those who are waiting. Especially when you get several adults cutting in front of dozens and dozens of children who are waiting along with the rest of us.

Well, obviously, I FREAK OUT!!

OK... so the freak out is mostly internal... truth is that in my old age (!!), I've decided it's not worth getting upset about. I take it as an opportunity to point out to my kids how NOT to act.

Then, DH and I talk later about how people can be savages.

 

[KellyNY]

Yep, if we stand our ground and ask that everyone follow the rules, we're rude yet the true rude ones think they are doing nothing wrong.

True but considering that CMs try not to get involved, standing your ground may only result in your destroyed day and this is why majority of us just let it go and this is why cutters get bolder and bolder. Real problem is not a cutter but Disney who closes eyes on it.