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No, you are right. The school is supposed to be fair about punishment. It really does show those girls that they can do what they want without getting in trouble.

This is a long story about one incident we had with this type thing.
They had hired all new people at the small private school I sent Amanda and Tyler to and I had several things happen with Tyler at that school and it was overlooked because the two girls were the niece and daughter of one of the office workers. I showed my boo-ta about that. One day one of the girls threw a rock at Tyler and he started chasing her, the so called PE teacher told Tyler to come sit down he was in trouble. She did not know I was there. I had gotten there early to pick them up and they had "PE" for the last hour of school. This was a VERY small private school so there were like 30 kids from K5-6th grade. I told the PE teacher that the girls had better not throw antoher rock at Tyler. Well the so called PE teacher(she was a photographer at Sears)went and got the girl's mother/aunt. When she came out to my car I politely got out of my car and told her exactly what had happened. Well, the PE girl had told her a totally different story. I said let's go get her, let her lie to you with me standing here. The chicken wouldn't face me. The next day she was going to give Tyler sentences to write because he didn't want to go out for PE. I went in that school and threw a fit. I told that so called new principle that Tyler would NOT be writing sentences for Diane because she was a Sears photographer NOT a teacher and if she had a problem with it we could just take it up with the new minister of the church. Tyler was in 5th grade and Amanda was in 6th so that was her last year there and I made it a point to tell the minister, teachers and so called principle that the school had went to hell and I would not be sending Tyler back the next year. The school closed because no one who had kids there sent them back. They ran a small, very good, wonderful school into the ground in one year. Needless to say the new minister was asked to leave the next year and all the "teachers and principle" were gone too :)

These are just a few of the reasons I homeschool Dallas. I had more parent/teacher meetings that I can remember and all that it ended up accompolishing was Tyler hating school.

I hope it all works out. Bullies are horrible.
 
That is really so unfortunate that this happend and the way it was handled. I mean you want your child to feel safe and to enjoy school. How is that going to happen when they get teased and nothing is done about it. As a parent your instinct is to protect your child - and stand up for them when you need to. I would keep fighting this until you get the results you feel you should get in order for your child to feel safe and loved in her school. Or I would transfer her to a different school. Myles goes into kindergarten in the fall so I havent really had to experience this type of thing at school yet but I am dreading it. I get so mad when kids are mean though. On the soccer field each week we we come across a bully- and I cant stand when the parents sit there and do not say anything to their kids when they keep pushing (myles is a peanut and one of the smaller kids on the team) But he also isn't afraid of people and pushes back when pushed! Last week, I was "that parent" that yelled "no pushing" to one of the kids that kept pushing Myles down. My husband was like, don't yell at other people's kids"... but I was like someone needs to tell that boy and his parents dont seem to mind!!

Good luck though and I hope it all works out.
 
Thanks guys! Sorry for being a downer. I just had to vent. I hope it didn't come across this way, but I don't mean to imply by any means that Lindsey's behavior was acceptable. It definitely was not. I just know how bad she feels when they make fun of her size ("midget", "elf" etc.) The funny thing is that she is skinny not short so these names are kind of silly but I digress.

Lindsey wants so bad to fit in and these two girls make it really, really hard for her. We've had the "they only pick on you to make themselves feel better" talk but that doesn't really help. We're talking with Lindsey everyday and reinforcing how wrong what she did was and I definitely would not talk about what I wrote about in front of her. I don't want her to remotely think what she did was okay. She will do exactly what the school wishes as punishment. I just wish the others were being taught the consequences for mistreating people. As her mom, my heart aches for her.
 
Thanks guys! Sorry for being a downer. I just had to vent. I hope it didn't come across this way, but I don't mean to imply by any means that Lindsey's behavior was acceptable. It definitely was not. I just know how bad she feels when they make fun of her size ("midget", "elf" etc.) The funny thing is that she is skinny not short so these names are kind of silly but I digress.

Lindsey wants so bad to fit in and these two girls make it really, really hard for her. We've had the "they only pick on you to make themselves feel better" talk but that doesn't really help. We're talking with Lindsey everyday and reinforcing how wrong what she did was and I definitely would not talk about what I wrote about in front of her. I don't want her to remotely think what she did was okay. She will do exactly what the school wishes as punishment. I just wish the others were being taught the consequences for mistreating people. As her mom, my heart aches for her.


You are doing the right thing. It really makes it hard to teach kids what is right when they see so much wrong today and people getting away with it. I have always taught my kids that there are consequences for everything they do. Be it good consequences or bad.
 

First of all,:hug:

Second, I did have to laugh a little when I pictured that sweet, little Lindsey writing the note to beat up the other girls!:cutie:

Seriously though, you have every right to be upset at the school. How do you think her classroom teacher (not the sub) would have handled this? Or would this have even happened if the sub wasn't there? I fully understand them punishing Lindsey for the note, with the violence in schools lately, they take that stuff pretty seriously. However, after the girls admitted to teasing Lindsey, they should have been made to apologize as well because at 8yo, they know that teasing is wrong! Bullying is just as serious as a violent note.

I'd talk to her regular classroom teacher to make sure Lindsey is not put in this situation again. I would also request that she not use that sub again, he failed at his job! I'd also ask her what kinds of rules are in her classroom, are they posted where all of the students can see them and are any of the rules focused on problem solving?

In my classroom, whether I was teaching 2nd or 3rd grade, there was a "Conversation Corner" where students could talk to each other about problems they were having. For example, Lindsey could have asked the girls to the corner (they have to go if asked in my classroom) and started her conversation with, "I don't like it when you.....because it makes me feel..... At this point the girls would have a chance to talk. In my experience, this allows the kids to problem solve on their own and it usually concludes with, "I'm sorry I made you feel that way."

Anyway, I'll get of my high horse now, but I really take this stuff seriously as a teacher and a parent. I'm sorry you and Lindsey had to experience this situation.:grouphug:
 
Just wanted to say I wouldn't want to be at the school today either :hug:. The way things were handled was completely wrong. The other girls should have been punished too. It's not right that the principal thinks teasing is not a big deal. As a mom I would be very upset like you are. Not sure if I be able to help but give the principal a piece of my mind. The fact that the two other girls are getting away with this would make me :mad: while Lindsey is being punished.
 
You are doing the right thing. It really makes it hard to teach kids what is right when they see so much wrong today and people getting away with it. I have always taught my kids that there are consequences for everything they do. Be it good consequences or bad.
Thanks Dana! I completely agree which is why we are reinforcing the schools the decision. I just wish more parents felt the same way.

First of all,:hug:

Second, I did have to laugh a little when I pictured that sweet, little Lindsey writing the note to beat up the other girls!:cutie:

Anyway, I'll get of my high horse now, but I really take this stuff seriously as a teacher and a parent. I'm sorry you and Lindsey had to experience this situation.:grouphug:
Thanks Wendy! No high horse. I wish Lindsey's teacher's classroom was structured like yours. Lindsey's teacher had a baby about a week and a half ago so we are stuck with the sub for the end of the school year. I don't think it would have been handled any different though. Her teacher has been really disconnected. This school year has been tough. Up until this year the public school experience was great. I hope this is not one of many battles to come. I will definitely pull her out if this pattern continues.
Just wanted to say I wouldn't want to be at the school today either :hug:. The way things were handled was completely wrong. The other girls should have been punished too. It's not right that the principal thinks teasing is not a big deal. As a mom I would be very upset like you are. Not sure if I be able to help but give the principal a piece of my mind. The fact that the two other girls are getting away with this would make me :mad: while Lindsey is being punished.
Thanks Nichole! I have had three conversations with her principal (which is a completely different rant) and no good. I'm trying to be careful about it though because i don't want to make her too mad and she tells us we can't go to WDW. the kids are doing absolutely nothing that week but I can see her acting silly if we raise too much of a fuss. If we can get through the next 15 school days we will get a break and hopefully things will start looking up. That's what I keep telling myself anyway.
 
Sorry for being off topic!

Related to our trip...The girls and I went to the mall today and bought some clothes for our trip. Bought Lindsey two tops and got Josie a dress, two tops and a pair of shorts. With the sales and discount coupons I walked away for $24. That was pretty good.

Oh I almost forgot the coolest trip related thing I did today. I found Joe's birthday present. I checked into and reserved Joe and Lindsey a spot for the Aqua Seas Tour at EPCOT. If you don't know about it (I didn't) you learn about the aquarium at the Seas (2nd largest aquarium) and get to go swimming in it. You will swim with turtles, dolphins, stingrays, etc. The age restriction is 8 years and up. Joe will love this and he will really love getting to do it with Lindsey. It takes about 3 hours and is $119/person with our AAA discount. You get a tour, a swim, t-shirt, group shot for that price. That's not too bad and I know he will really like it. I like getting him one of a kind stuff for his birthday. I have to find a cool way to let him know about it on his birthday because he will be doing it 3 days later.

Any ideas???
 
Sorry for being off topic!

Related to our trip...The girls and I went to the mall today and bought some clothes for our trip. Bought Lindsey two tops and got Josie a dress, two tops and a pair of shorts. With the sales and discount coupons I walked away for $24. That was pretty good.

Oh I almost forgot the coolest trip related thing I did today. I found Joe's birthday present. I checked into and reserved Joe and Lindsey a spot for the Aqua Seas Tour at EPCOT. If you don't know about it (I didn't) you learn about the aquarium at the Seas (2nd largest aquarium) and get to go swimming in it. You will swim with turtles, dolphins, stingrays, etc. The age restriction is 8 years and up. Joe will love this and he will really love getting to do it with Lindsey. It takes about 3 hours and is $119/person with our AAA discount. You get a tour, a swim, t-shirt, group shot for that price. That's not too bad and I know he will really like it. I like getting him one of a kind stuff for his birthday. I have to find a cool way to let him know about it on his birthday because he will be doing it 3 days later.

Any ideas???

:cool1: on the shopping deals!! The Aqua Seas tour sounds really fun. Joe and Lindsey will probably love it. I kind of forgot all about it since my kids were always too little ;). But Kaylee is more than big enough now to do some of the tours at Disney. She would love to swim with the dolphins. Are there any pics of the tour online? Maybe you can print them out and put them in or on a card. Make sure it's a Disney card ;) and maybe you can photoshop their faces or something. I'm not good with surprise ideas at all. In all of our trips I could never keep it a secret even for a second.

As far as school, I see your point. You don't want to make things harder for Lindsey. It would be really hard for me to bite my tongue. You know though, when someone hurts your child :mad:. I hope things get better for both of your sake. I'm worried Kaylee 's school may give us a hard time for missing 5 days. We only get 5 parent notes for the year. She has missed 1 day and i took her home early one day. They need to allow at least 15 excuses per school year. Vacation with the family is important too, as long as they keep their grades up.
 
Sorry for being off topic!

Related to our trip...The girls and I went to the mall today and bought some clothes for our trip. Bought Lindsey two tops and got Josie a dress, two tops and a pair of shorts. With the sales and discount coupons I walked away for $24. That was pretty good.

Oh I almost forgot the coolest trip related thing I did today. I found Joe's birthday present. I checked into and reserved Joe and Lindsey a spot for the Aqua Seas Tour at EPCOT. If you don't know about it (I didn't) you learn about the aquarium at the Seas (2nd largest aquarium) and get to go swimming in it. You will swim with turtles, dolphins, stingrays, etc. The age restriction is 8 years and up. Joe will love this and he will really love getting to do it with Lindsey. It takes about 3 hours and is $119/person with our AAA discount. You get a tour, a swim, t-shirt, group shot for that price. That's not too bad and I know he will really like it. I like getting him one of a kind stuff for his birthday. I have to find a cool way to let him know about it on his birthday because he will be doing it 3 days later.

Any ideas???

Get him some new swim trunks and a towel with a dolphin or some other sea animal on it and put a little turtle, dolphin, stingray and other toy sea animals with a snorkle mask in a box and let him open it on his birthday. Then under all that stuff put a card with the information, or ticket or what ever they give you, about the swim.
 
:cool1: on the shopping deals!! The Aqua Seas tour sounds really fun. Joe and Lindsey will probably love it. I kind of forgot all about it since my kids were always too little ;). But Kaylee is more than big enough now to do some of the tours at Disney. She would love to swim with the dolphins. Are there any pics of the tour online? Maybe you can print them out and put them in or on a card. Make sure it's a Disney card ;) and maybe you can photoshop their faces or something. I'm not good with surprise ideas at all. In all of our trips I could never keep it a secret even for a second.

As far as school, I see your point. You don't want to make things harder for Lindsey. It would be really hard for me to bite my tongue. You know though, when someone hurts your child :mad:. I hope things get better for both of your sake. I'm worried Kaylee 's school may give us a hard time for missing 5 days. We only get 5 parent notes for the year. She has missed 1 day and i took her home early one day. They need to allow at least 15 excuses per school year. Vacation with the family is important too, as long as they keep their grades up.
It is tough. Three unexcused absences is considered truancy here and they will prosecute you so that's why i don't want to push my luck. I've seen some pics on allears and disneyparks.com but haven't looked on the DIS yet. I need to do that. I hope they don't give you a hard time about Kaylee missing school. If they are just going to goof off why can't they goof off with us right? :) Seriously, Lindsey's teacher told me before she went on maternity leave that they weren't going to be doing any homework they would be watching movies, having field days etc. because the KATS testing will be over with the week before. It will be a laid back fun time and she told me not to worry about it. I hope that still stands. Good luck with your school!
 
Get him some new swim trunks and a towel with a dolphin or some other sea animal on it and put a little turtle, dolphin, stingray and other toy sea animals with a snorkle mask in a box and let him open it on his birthday. Then under all that stuff put a card with the information, or ticket or what ever they give you, about the swim.
This is a very good idea. Maybe I can find some hidden mickey trunks at disneyshopping or something. Amazingly he will wear Disney stuff as long as it is manly...:lmao: The tough part will be keeping it from him until his birthday. I was thinking maybe some swim trunks and a Nemo...hmmm.
 
Just read the your whole PTR.

Sorry about the incedent at school. I can't imagine having to be searched everyday at school.
 
:welcome:Thanks for reading!

The incident is very unfortunate but Lindsey was wrong for escalating things to the note. I promise she is a very sweet child. I've never seen this type of behavior from her. The girls must have been brutal for her to reach this level. What's done is done and we can't change it. We just have to finish out our punishment and move forward.

Sometimes I wish my girls came with Owner's manuals...would make things a lot easier! :lmao:

Thanks again for stopping by! I see you are very close to your trip. I'll stop by your PTR too and give it a read. :goodvibes
 
That's a great gift for Joe...and Lindsey! They'll have so much fun!
 
This is a very good idea. Maybe I can find some hidden mickey trunks at disneyshopping or something. Amazingly he will wear Disney stuff as long as it is manly...:lmao: The tough part will be keeping it from him until his birthday. I was thinking maybe some swim trunks and a Nemo...hmmm.

That would be good. I love Nemo. You might be able to find him some Nemo swin trunks :thumbsup2.
 
WOW! Catching up! I'm so very sorry about the school issue. As a former teacher and someone who was constantly teased as a kid--I can understand how frustrating it is when the school administration is unfair in their discipline. Thankfully the school year is almost over!! (((HUGS)))

What a fun surprise for Joe & Lindsey!! I'm trying to come up with some sort of surprise for Brent since we'll be celebrating our anniversary. :lovestruc
 
I am outraged at the school's reaction to Lindsey vs the other 2 girls. There should be an "anti bullying" rule enforced here. Ridiculous. I am sorry this happened to her. Girls can be so mean. I am also sorry you feel you have to "fly under the radar" for the next 15 days, I can see why though. Things like this really make homeschooling look very appealing. I also respect your choice to enforce punishment even though you may not support it. You don't need a manual-you are doing great. Hugs to you and Lindsey!
 
Yay for the shopping-any pics??
That tour for Joe and Lindsey sounds awesome!! They will have such a great time. What will you and Josie do for you fun time together??
Hope you can find some cute "manly" Disney swim trunks or something for Joe. Can't wait to see pics!
 
That's a great gift for Joe...and Lindsey! They'll have so much fun!
I have been really struggling to find something unique for his birthday that he wouldn't have to do alone. I found this and instantly knew this was it.

That would be good. I love Nemo. You might be able to find him some Nemo swin trunks :thumbsup2.
i'm going to do some shopping this week and I'll see what I can find. Hopefully I can find something cool to tie everything together.

WOW! Catching up! I'm so very sorry about the school issue. As a former teacher and someone who was constantly teased as a kid--I can understand how frustrating it is when the school administration is unfair in their discipline. Thankfully the school year is almost over!! (((HUGS)))

What a fun surprise for Joe & Lindsey!! I'm trying to come up with some sort of surprise for Brent since we'll be celebrating our anniversary. :lovestruc
Thanks for the hugs Becky. Being a parent can be tough some times.

You might go to disneyparks.com, go to the celebrations section and click several different types of celebrations and see what they offer to get some ideas. That's how I found the tour. I had never heard of it before. I then did some research and knew I had found his present.

I am outraged at the school's reaction to Lindsey vs the other 2 girls. There should be an "anti bullying" rule enforced here. Ridiculous. I am sorry this happened to her. Girls can be so mean. I am also sorry you feel you have to "fly under the radar" for the next 15 days, I can see why though. Things like this really make homeschooling look very appealing. I also respect your choice to enforce punishment even though you may not support it. You don't need a manual-you are doing great. Hugs to you and Lindsey!
Thanks Mary! It's a tough pill to swallow but we will get through it and will better for it. Girls can be so nasty, especially to each other. I hope to break that chain with mine. Homeschooling looks very appealling. If only I could figure out how to live like we do now and homeschool. :confused3

Yay for the shopping-any pics??
That tour for Joe and Lindsey sounds awesome!! They will have such a great time. What will you and Josie do for you fun time together??
Hope you can find some cute "manly" Disney swim trunks or something for Joe. Can't wait to see pics!
I haven't taken pics yet but as soon as I put all of their outfits together I will take and post some pics. I guess Josie and I will go to the Living Seas and hang out to see them swimming. We may do a little shopping for the first hour or so. Josie won't know she's missing anything. She's very laid back unless it is food/candy/ice cream related.

I hope I can find some cute trunks too. I'm going to look tonight while he is working to see what I can find. I've done more research on the tour on both allears and the DIS and I can't find one negative comment so it looks like this may be a good choice all around. I can't believe I just stumbled upon it.:cool1:
 












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