We went to every major dealer in the town we were shopping in, and there are a LOT of them, and to some small, independent places and there just wasn't much there. The cars we were interested in all had problems, mostly really smelly interiors (one smelled like vomit, the rest were smokey). We drove pretty much everything we wanted and finally settled on a Saturn, mostly for price. They had the prices of most of the cars jacked up so high, I know you can haggle, but they were $200-3000 over Edmunds dealer retail price. We tried to negotiate on a Honda Accord and they just wouldn't come down for us so we left. The Saturn was priced right at the Edmund's price and they gave us a good trade in for our van. DH was calculating the money he will save in gas alone, which is HUGE. Thanks for all the help.