We had a disgusting episode at Rose & Crown.....

[Daxx]

I hope you're not a teacher. I can't tell you how many times I have had to clean up other kids vomit!

So, you won't eat at R&C again b/c a kid vomited there? Why should they take anything off your bill? It's not like they left the vomit out in the open - they were working on cleaning it up. Hate to tell you, but w/that sawdust stuff, you have to let it sit for a bit before you can sweep it up. If you didn't think you coudn't stomach it after moving seats, you should have cancelled the rest of your order and left at that point and gone somewhere else. But, you chose not to.

Let me tell you -- kids have vomited in every restaurant at WDW. I suppose you won't ever be able to eat at WDW then, knowing that a kid has thrown up in one.

And, I suppose you or your darlings have never been sick in a public place? Well, it's bound to happen one day. Maybe you'll feel differently when it happens to YOU/YOUR KIDS!

The disgusting episode at R&C wasn't the kid vomit -- it was your behavior.

As a parent, your post infuriates me. You have no compassion.

 

[bctripp]

One of my kids threw up (in the bathroom, thank god) at the Whispering Canyon. The other made it to the room before she threw up. Then we had to drive home 9 hours the next day (they got sick on the way home too). I'm scared they'll catch something again, i'm bringing lots of hand sanitizer. It's a fact of life, I can handle anything after living with my 2 kids. I'm sure there are many places where kids have "left their mark" in WDW or any other theme park for that matter.

 

[hmp2z]

I'm astonished at how so many people are so blase about vomit in a restaurant. From the comments here, I feel like I'm in a very, very grateful minority when I say that I've never had to experience someone throwing up on or near me while I was eating.

I guess everyone's standards are different, but I certainly wouldn't take vomit as a side order with dinner, like fries or a salad. I have been reading these 11 pages in disbelief at how vomit seems to be standard fare for so many diners. Yuck!

And yes, I'm happily child-free, and yes, I do clean up my dog's vomit, but no, my dogs don't throw up on my dining table. Nor do they throw up in restaurants. What's OK for one person (your own child's vomit) might be incredibly disturbing to another person.

Cheers!
Heather W

 

[shadonjenon]

The puking part was very gross and you should have been moved right away.

But the worry about your child getting sick from a child that was 10 feet away is VERY remote. We all come in contact we people everyday that may have a bug in their systems and we don't even know it. If illness was transfered that easily than we would all be continually sick.

Unless your daughter has a particularly weak immunsystem it is highly unlikely that anyone in your family would become ill unless she came to your table and threw up directly on you.

I am good about using purell before we eat and after we use the bathroom in public areas also, but there is a fine line between protection and being paranoid.

A little more compassion for this poor child would have gone a long way.

 

[shadonjenon]

What she discribed as "sawdust" most likely was a chemical compond that is used in schools and other public places to clean up bodly fluids. It is put down and it absurbs the fluid. It seems like the cm didn't wait long enough (maybe because this lady was making such a fuss) to sweep it up. If you allow the compound to absorb properly than there is lno liquid left and the compound is easily sweepup. My husband used to work as a custodian and had to use this stuff many many times.

 

[shadonjenon]

"I have to say I'm a little confused as to why Disney didn't get someone in to really clean up the mess, rather than just put sawdust and such over it? I mean it's hard to go 10 feet in disney without tripping over someone in the custodial staff (one of the reasons I liked disney...it's so very clean...)."

What she discribed as "sawdust" most likely was a chemical compond that is used in schools and other public places to clean up bodly fluids. It is put down and it absurbs the fluid. It seems like the cm didn't wait long enough (maybe because this lady was making such a fuss) to sweep it up. If you allow the compound to absorb properly than there is lno liquid left and the compound is easily sweepup. My husband used to work as a custodian and had to use this stuff many many times.

 

[Ms.Mouse]

I'm astonished at how so many people are so blase about vomit in a restaurant. From the comments here, I feel like I'm in a very, very grateful minority when I say that I've never had to experience someone throwing up on or near me while I was eating.

I guess everyone's standards are different, but I certainly wouldn't take vomit as a side order with dinner, like fries or a salad. I have been reading these 11 pages in disbelief at how vomit seems to be standard fare for so many diners. Yuck!

And yes, I'm happily child-free, and yes, I do clean up my dog's vomit, but no, my dogs don't throw up on my dining table. Nor do they throw up in restaurants. What's OK for one person (your own child's vomit) might be incredibly disturbing to another person.

Cheers!
Heather W

I don't think it's that people are blas'e or that our standards are different (possibly lower??? ) than anyone else's.... It's just that SOME of us have and work with children and realize that children many times can't control and don't realize (until it's too late to hurry away from the situation) that they must vomit.
Thankfully, it's never happened to us in a restaurant BUT it has happened to us in other public places. As parents, I think we realize that these things CAN and DO happen and YES, we are embarrassed...BUT what can a person do once it has happened????? You clean it up (or the waitstaff, in this case) and you carry on. I wouldn't have left the area if it was my kid that vomited and I knew that the child wasn't sick AND wasn't still feeling ill. Maybe the child just ate too much "garbage food" and felt relief once it was expelled. No one knows... There are many IF'S in this story and we really can't judge what actually happened... We are just guessing, RIGHT???
IF it grossed me out to the extent that it did the OP, I certainly would have been crawling up over people's laps to get out of the area!!!! I think that is the point of many here on this thread. The OP said she was about 5 feet away and couldn't get out so there were more than likely tables separating them so unless the child was "powerbarfing" the vomit wasn't going to hit their area and if there were other tables separating them, all you really have to do IF you want to stay at the restaurant is look the other way!!! I say this because obviously, the OP wanted to stay at the restaurant. So did the other family with "vomit child" SO...I don't care if those people took their kid out or not, the vision of the incident would stay implanted and you'd still feel that you didn't want to eat or that you didn't enjoy your food any longer. For posters who say they wouldn't want to go into a restaurant because now they know that vomit has taken place there.... They should only eat at home because it more than likely happened at just about every restaurant in WDW and outside WDW!!! AND IF you really want to think about it... Children vomit at grocery stores also... I've seen it plenty of times... So if they vomit in the produce aisle, then what??? We don't want to go back for food!!! We can go on and on and get paranoid about every public food place BUT is it realistic to be that way???? I don't think it's people having different standards. I think it's us being realistic about the functions of the body and living our lives around it (unpleasant or not) without allowing it to stifle our enjoyment.

 

[Daxx]

And yes, I'm happily child-free.

Can't wait to hear you change your tune when you have kids and yours vomit on you, in a restaurant, etc.!

 

[Ms.Mouse]

Can't wait to hear you change your tune when you have kids and yours vomit on you, in a restaurant, etc.!

FUNNY!!!!
My sister used to say things like "Thankfully, I don't have kids" and "IF I ever have kids, they will never _________" and "Kids are sooo gross!!"
AND THEN SHE HAD ONE!!! Believe me, her tune changed by the time he turned two!!! I wonder why??? Actually, my sister (before she had her son) would have raised the roof right off R&C and probably caused more of a fuss than the OP. Now that she had her son, she would probably have gotten up to get the waitstaff to help the family and gone back to her seat to enjoy the "light show" and still may not have wanted to eat because she has sympathy illnesses with others (or she may have gotten herself together after awhile and continued her meal)... A far cry from the prissy girl she used to be before motherhood set in

 

[kvogel11202]

Originally Posted by hmp2z
And yes, I'm happily child-free.

Yet you have dogs, who probably bark, poop and pee on peoples lawn, lick themselves, then kiss your face, and you would be grossed out by a puking child? And don't give me the whole "a dogs mouth is cleaner than a persons" bull, they lick their own privates. They also eat their own vomit, which I'm sure that poor child did not do. They probably rode Mission Psace or maybe Soarin, and the poor thing had an upset stomach. It's people like the OP who make the situaton worse, of course I'm sure her "angels" never have anything like that happen to them. It's usally those kids who carry the virus' that make others sick.

 

[Lives4Disney]

Hi, OP here.....Sorry to have to revisit this subject - I thought I would just let it die.

OK, I was originally typing on my DH's laptop and I am not as proficient a typer on that keyboard so my mind was going much faster than I could type and get my thoughts down.

Of course I DID NOT swear at anybody or yell or make a fuss at all. My THOUGHTS were what I expressed in my post. I did not say anything out loud that was rude or embarrassing to the family with the ill kid. I can have THOUGHTS that I don't ACT on. Most people do, LOL. My main point was that I was extrememly grossed out and felt like we did get a runaround, YES - we were trapped because there was only one way out and that was over the vomit. I literally would have had to climb up the railing and over others to get out and I did have to ask (quietly, actually because even though I freak out in my head I do not like to make any type of scene or cause anybody undue emabarrassment)about 5 time to PLEASE move to another table. I didn't WANT to stay and eat after smelling what I smelled and seeing what I saw, but I felt like it was my vomit issue (although I don't really think it is since I do think vomit in a restaurant is unsanitary and pretty gross) and since the food was cooking and we already ordered it we owed it to the R & C to pay for it (sit and choke it down basically so we don't offend the cook). THAT is how much of a pushover I am. I do not like to put anybody out. BUT I still think spilling bodily fluids in a restaurant should be considered as putting others out. I would feel the same about sitting next to a baby with a poopy diaper while I was expected to eat & enjoy my dinner. Hello.....Smell is a VERY strong factor in TASTE.

I really really really think the family with the sick kid should not have stayed around and ordered more beer and desert....The kid was limply sitting on her mom's lap and I think it was pretty selfish. As for me asking to move, there were lots of empty tables inside so I do not understand the runaround and coverup attitude. I would have moved inside or better yet left whether the family left or not, but I honestly was extremely worried now that my girls would get that bug and would have really appreciated knowing if it was vomit or what it was. Just before we left on this trip there was a long thread regarding a terrible stomach virus taking over WDW so of course that was on my mind. As I said before, my only experience in all my life is vomiting due to illness. We have been sick several times at WDW and it is a bust. Just my experience so that is all I know. Sorry to parents that have kids that vomit whenever. That has to be a bummer, but I was just concerned for my own kids' health (as I have a right to be) and the thousands of dollars spent on a trip that I could see being wasted. My girls appreciate the fact that we try our best to wash our hands & use handiwipes and try and stay healthy. I have a dog & bunny and am not a neat freak or a clean freak, but it is no fun to be sick on vacation.

As I am typing this my DD is on my arm about going swimming, so maybe this didn't even come across as it should, but so what... You don't know me and the type of person I am and you all seem so comfortable around vomit anyway. Good for you all! I am just so surprised.

I am so surprised by the vehement defense of vomit in a restaurant. Kind of funny actually. Oh, and yes, to the snotty previous poster - my girls are angels. I am their mom so of course I should think so and do my best to take care of them.

Bon Appetit,

Lives4Disney

 

[Becky2005]

I haven't read the whole thread but I can see both sides (and now see I came in late -- Oops!)

First off, if DH was with us we would have had to move immediately because he would have been sick himself. He has an extremely sensitive stomach & smells can set him off.

Secondly though, I doubt I would have assumed the girl had an illness. I would have just thought YUCK. OK...I see she was limply laying in the mom's lap...in that case, I would have thought illness. My DD just is happy as can be and acts normal after her episodes when she was younger, talking/playing, etc...

My DD when she was younger had this nasty habit of choking/gagging on things she has eaten a million times. Only kid I know that could get choked on Jell-o (and NOT made as a jiggler, so it didn't have much consistancy). I would usually know when it was going to happen once she started the coughing and would sit there while she was basically coughing (as long as she was coughing we were fine) with napkin ready. I know people probably thought she was choking to death or something & I was just sitting there with napkin in hand waiting.

She was perfectly fine afterwards and there was no illness or anything. We would continue with our meal. I was lucky it was never any amount enough for on the floor or anything but it wasn't exactly pleasant either. However, she wasn't ill.

 

[PatriciaH]

Can't wait to hear you change your tune when you have kids and yours vomit on you, in a restaurant, etc.!

I am sure her statement "happily child-free" means just that. I have worked with many children teaching, volunteering, etc.. and I have never heard of so many "pukers" as I have here. As a matter of fact I can not recall any of the children I taught vomiting ever.

 

[MastaMind]

I am sure her statement "happily child-free" means just that. I have worked with many children teaching, volunteering, etc.. and I have never heard of so many "pukers" as I have here. As a matter of fact I can not recall any of the children I taught vomiting ever.

Well, I said the same thing 6 years ago, and now I'll be taking my DD5 for her first trip in Feb!

P.S. I'm happily child-enriched now and my attitude towards many, many things has completely changed!

 

[afcgirl]

I have worked with many children teaching, volunteering, etc.. and I have never heard of so many "pukers" as I have here. As a matter of fact I can not recall any of the children I taught vomiting ever.

What age were the children you taught? If the kids you taught were in elementary school or older, then I can understand you not running into so-called "pukers". But I can guarantee if you taught preschoolers, you would have witnessed a puke-fest. Not a week went by that someone didn't puke or poop in their pants at my son's preschool. And they were not necessarily sick, they sometimes ate too much or had strong gag reflexes.

Believe me, little kids who do not puke are the exception, not the norm.

 

[MosMom]

This sounds like a given for our vacations. One time, it was my kid doing the throwing up! It was at the Norway Princess breakfast and she threw up in her plate. Whoops! We left immediately and the manager took great care of us. I don't know how quickly they cleaned it up but I apologized to the people around me and got nothing but sympathy because most parents know it could easily happen to them next!

We're the Griswalds so I'm used to wacky stuff happening on our vacations!

 

[kvogel11202]

You don't like that people judged you for your reaction to that poor child- but yet you yourself completely judged not only those other parents- but the employees at the R&C as well. Seems to me a little hypocritical.

 

[Lives4Disney]

You don't like that people judged you for your reaction to that poor child- but yet you yourself completely judged not only those other parents- but the employees at the R&C as well. Seems to me a little hypocritical.

You seem to just be a troublemaker (the pot stiring thing) I did not JUDGE the parents other than seeing the kid just threw up and is looking limp and they decide to keep their prime Illuminations viewing spot despite that fact and order more beer and desert to insure that they don't get asked to give up their table......well - whatever. Seems selfish to me as a mom. Sorry. I wouldn't put my kids thru that. Just me I suppose. My DD did throw up once at the MK during Wishes and I got her out of there as fast as my feet could carry me. I didn't care that Wishes is my favorite. She (one of my angels as you like to call them) was ill and I didn't want her to be uncomfortable and expose others to her germs. Just common courtesy. Seems there is a lack of that at WDW.

I didn't judge the R &C employees either. I felt like my requests to move were not taken seriously - ie had to aske repeatedly and then when the guy comes over to ask if we would help start the fireworks - WELL, obviously they aren't taking me seriously that I would really like to move away from that vomit and smell of chemicals. Dah. No judging, just experiencing. If I would have stood on my table screaming and pointing I bet they would have reacted faster and moved us out of there.

The little girl was more like 6 or 7 - not preschool age. It wasn't spit up - it was full out throwing up.

Go ahead and defend vomit in a restaurant. To each his own.

Lives4Disney - proud mom to 2 angels and a teenager....

 

[hmp2z]

Whoa! Major attack on dogs, hehehe

Here is the difference as I see it:
- My dogs don't poop or pee in restaurants where people are trying to enjoy their food in the most sanitary way possible.

And FYI, my dogs' poo is always scooped up and properly disposed of, in biodegradable bags, by ME, so no, I don't think they are a nuisance to anyone's dining experience in any way, shape, or form.

I wasn't going to say anything about a dog's mouth; actually, the dog we have right now is a 9 year old beagle/lab mix who we rescued 3 months ago. She came from some very rough circumstances and doesn't give doggie kisses. She is sweet as can be, but, due to her unfortunate past, doesn't act in a normal doggie way. But, again, neither this dog (knock on wood) nor my 2 deceased dogs have had any sort of bodily fluids issuing forth from while we were dining. Nor would we allow them to eat their own vomit (another truly disgusting image)- we would dispose of it promptly.

Not sure why this brought on a diatribe; I was only pointing out my astonishment at the complete and total acceptance of vomiting at a restaurant by this particular group of people. I was geniunely surprised - I have never encountered such a thing in my lifetime, and to hear that it seems to be the norm for so many, many people is astonishing to me.

For those in doubt, I meant exactly what I said: My husband and I are happily child-free and will remain that way. We definitely won't have children and then complain when they start projectile vomiting at dinner; hence, I don't feel that my surprise at the "vomit at dinner" norm to be hypocritical in any way. And (knocking vehemently on wood), we hope to have many, many more vomit-free dinners to come. I wasn't attacking anyone's decision to procreate in any way, shape, or form, so hope this doesn't degenerate into an attack on those of us who choose not to!

BTW, I understood that when the OP said that she was "like - uh, I don't want my kids within 50 yards of these kids" that she meant this was her thinking, not something she shouted out. It could be regional, but here it is the same way: when someone says they were "like" something, it usually means that's what they were thinking and feeling rather than doing. Just an interesting note on the various dialects of English and how they can (as in this case) lead to tremendous misunderstandings, from all those who thought the OP had told the other family everything she was thinking and thus accused her of heartlessness.

Cheers!
Heather W

Yet you have dogs, who probably bark, poop and pee on peoples lawn, lick themselves, then kiss your face, and you would be grossed out by a puking child? And don't give me the whole "a dogs mouth is cleaner than a persons" bull, they lick their own privates. They also eat their own vomit, which I'm sure that poor child did not do. It's people like the OP who make the situaton worse, of course I'm sure her "angels" never have anything like that happen to them. It's usally those kids who carry the virus' that make others sick.

 

[DisneyMommyMichelle]

This thread is still alive?? and yet here i am again

Just common courtesy. Seems there is a lack of that at WDW.

I have never encountered a lack of common courtesy.

Go ahead and defend vomit in a restaurant. To each his own.

We are not defending it as though we ENJOY it. "HEY check it out that kid just vomitted int he restaurant let's go eat there!!"

it's more like, Vomit happens, kids get sick, GET OVER IT!