We had a disgusting episode at Rose & Crown.....

[Ms.Mouse]

As I'm catching up on the new posts since last nite, I've been thinking of this whole "issue" and IF the child was indeed sick, I think we would all agree that they should have brought the child back to the hotel( and most parents would)... BUT giving "puke kid's" parents the benefit of the doubt, I agree with some that the child may have been overly excited or ate too much of a variety OR even went on a ride that upset the kid's stomach. The kid vomited one time (I'm sure that if the kid vomited more than once... we would have all read that) at the restaurant and there's nothing, once it happened, that the parent's could have done.... I may not have left the restaurant either.... AND.... IF we are all truthful about it.... many of us... actually, most of us... INCLUDING (more than likely)the OP...would have stayed also...IF we were sure our kid wasn't really sick.

ANOTHER VOMIT STORY...... My DH went on Mission to Space in EPCOT against my warning him against it (he gets VERY motion sick). Well, our friends were edging him on and he went.... They had to shut the ride down (of course bringing out the chem clean). My DH vomited twice while walking toward an area to sit and rest. The CM's from the ride sent us to one of the stores to get another pair of shorts and shirt (Mickey Mouse even paid!!!) We went out to eat at a CS restaurant about an hour later because my DH was feeling "back to normal". We ate BUT he ate just soup (just in case)... Well, Even though he "felt better" DH was vomiting even an hour after that!!!!! The only difference is that he was able to "feel it" and was able to make the bathrooms. It caused my DH lots of embarrassment as I'm sure it caused this family/friends...By the post... I'm sure the embarrassment was enhanced by the actions of "some" that were near them.

LOVMY2GIRLS...... I'm almost POSITIVE that the waitstaff at R&C did move this family as soon as they possibly could ... by reading about her reactions... don't you all think they would have????? They wouldn't want the diners around the child OR the OP to get any more anxious/questioning than they already were... Whether on the rides or in a restaurant, the CM's do try to keep the guests in their "magical vacation mode" SO I'm sure they worked VERY HARD to do so AND to keep her and her family happy....

ANOTHER STORY.... Someone actually had a heart attack at a restaurant that my family and I were dining at during one of our visits.... The waitstaff tried very hard to keep those at the table calm as they worked around with the man and his family.... The other available waitstaff worked to keep the other diners busy while working with the man having the heart attack..... Part of the "magic" that most Disney Lovers really appreciate.....

 

[lovmy2girls]

I understand both sides.

I have not read this whole thread, wow this is a lot of post on puke


I have a little puker myself. She is not sick; she just eats way too much, like her full button is not working. She coughs, and up it comes. I have cleaned up more puke than I care to remember. She is getting better as she gets older. I do feel sorry for the other people around me, honestly I do. My little girl is so embarrassed by the whole thing when it happens. I usually try and clean up the big chunks myself with lots of paper towels, I would even mop if they gave me one.

It is a part of life with kids.

If you had asked to be moved to a different table they should have moved you immediately. No questions asked and been in a hurrry to do so.

 

[JennyMominRI]

What kind of parent keeps their kid in a restaurant after they throw up? A selfish kind? A kind of parent who doesn't want to miss fireworks? A kind of parent who doesn't want their vacation evening to be inconvenienced by a sick child? And excuse me, but a vomiting child IS a sick child - for whatever amount of time and for whatever reason they vomited. That is why another way of saying "vomited" is "getting sick", as in, "I just got sick in Rose and Crown restaurant and mom didn't take me back to the hotel room because she was having too much fun and wanted to stick around to watch others 'get sick' by smelling my nasty vomit."

Parenting 101 - when your kids vomit in a restaurant, please take them back to their hotel room/home to rest!

OP - you are RIGHT ON!!!

Yes,and then they can puke on main street,The Monorail/Bus and in the lobby...By the time you get back to the room said kid is fine.... I'd take mine to the bathroom and then find some quiet corner to sit in rather then having them throw up on disney transportation where people are trapped with no cast member to clean it up

 

[disneymouse]

Yes,and then they can puke on main street,The Monorail/Bus and in the lobby...By the time you get back to the room said kid is fine.... I'd take mine to the bathroom and then find some quiet corner to sit in rather then having them throw up on disney transportation where people are trapped with no cast member to clean it up

 

[Topper]

If you had asked to be moved to a different table they should have moved you immediately. No questions asked and been in a hurrry to do so.

You realize that this was at R&C just prior to Illuminations? Where every table is at a premium for the show? I'm sure the delay had to do with this very fact, that the restaurant staff had to wait until someone was willing to give up their precious table.

Where exactly would you suggest the restaurant move them (immediately), if no tables are available??

 

[Ms.Mouse]

LOVMY2GIRLS...... I'm almost POSITIVE that the waitstaff at R&C did move this family as soon as they possibly could ... by reading about her reactions... don't you all think they would have????? They wouldn't want the diners around the child OR the OP to get any more anxious/questioning than they already were... Whether on the rides or in a restaurant, the CM's do try to keep the guests in their "magical vacation mode" SO I'm sure they worked VERY HARD to do so AND to keep her and her family happy....

ANOTHER STORY.... Someone actually had a heart attack at a restaurant that my family and I were dining at during one of our visits.... The waitstaff tried very hard to keep those at the table calm as they worked around with the man and his family.... The other available waitstaff worked to keep the other diners busy while working with the man having the heart attack..... Part of the "magic" that most Disney Lovers really appreciate.....

I actually edited my reply and it came up in the wrong order.... but Topper...you're very right in your post.

 

[LilyWDW]

We are getting one side of the story... the OPs. We are not getting to hear from the CMs or from the poor girls family. As such, I take it all with a grain of salt, remembering that this is only a small part of what actually happened that night. Not saying that anyone isn't telling the truth, just that depending on the position you are in during the situation, the "truth" can be different.

It's like a study they did on eye witness testimony. They had someone come in and rob an instructor at gun point with a class room of college students. Pretty much, they had 30 eye witnesses to the crime... and not any one story matched any other. No one lied about what they saw, their minds all processed the information differently. I am telling the truth when I say I saw a white man, about 5'9, 175 lbs, with a blue baseball cap and a black shirt... even if the guy was 6'0, 200lbs, and wearing a green shirt and no hat.

Saying that, I can see very well what information we may have been missing. Perhapse the CMs were looking for another table, but it is R&C during illuminations. A new table is not going to just "magically" appear in an already crowded restaurant. The little girl that threw up may not have been ill. Instead, it could have been any number of causes. What felt like a long time to the OP may have in fact been a very short and reasonable amount of time. It's well known that when you don't enjoy something (American History for the 100th time over my years of schooling) it will seem longer then it really is.

I can say from personal experience that you can puke and not be "ill". I do not believe that the family should have left the restaurant just due to the fact the child threw up. The OP did not know the reason it happened and as such should not have been so quick to judge. I can't stand the smell myself and most likely would have asked to be moved if at all possible... but I would not have made a scene of it.

The CMs did what they are supposed to do when they have situations of this kind. The chemicals are one of the cleanest and safest methods of cleaning up these sorts of things.

The OP got moved and a comped meal... I would be more then happy with this alone. It was not R&Cs fault that some poor girl threw up and as such really did not have to do anything, but since it's a Disney location and they like to keep people happy, they did it anyways. That was great of them.

So relax and don't freak out! Things happen and go woth the flow!

 

[GailT]

Eeew, I'll never eat there just thinking of your story. That happened a few years ago when we were in Cape May buffet....I just lost my appetite. I do feel bad for the kid, I agree, it wasn't like she planned this, she could of thrown for many reasons.

 

[snowy76]

hara kiri maybe an option

Yes, please, I'll take that after reading over 100 comments on vomit!

 

[lovmy2girls]

You realize that this was at R&C just prior to Illuminations? Where every table is at a premium for the show? I'm sure the delay had to do with this very fact, that the restaurant staff had to wait until someone was willing to give up their precious table.

Where exactly would you suggest the restaurant move them (immediately), if no tables are available??

Easy...... I was just referring to the OP statement of she had to ask 5x to be moved. Thats all. She said nothing about Rose and Crown being packed, no seats available. She did say they finally moved her. Thats all. Then maybe she should have said, I asked to be moved 5x but they wouldn't throw someone out of their table so I could have it.

 

[coppertop]

It will not sop me going - kids have probably thrown up in every Disney restaurant over the years. If just one episode stopped people going, all the restaurants would be empty.

 

[Sammie]

Man that must be some bad food.

Seriously I would have just asked to move. I don't think I would want to dine within smelling distance of the situation. But I don't blame the kid. And I certainly think the germ thing is over the top. Just because one becomes sick to one's stomach does not mean a virus.

If germs are that big a concern, then WDW is not the place to be. They are everywhere and most will never be as obvious as what you witnessed at Rose and Crown.

 

[Cool-Beans]

You are not going to like this... but here it goes.. It's vomit.... It's a natural body function. I'm sure it was not pleasant.. but I think you over reacted quite a bit. It also sounds like you have a paranoia about getting sick... but thats another topic....
Of course I could be a bit jaded.. I'm a nurse and see vomit daily

Ditto!

I think this all the time. Oh God, not...VOMIT!

There was a thread once about someone who had to leave work because someone had changed a diaper in the office and smell of poop remained.

If a little vomit or poop is the worst thing you ever smell, consider yourself flippin lucky!!! Watch someone vomit poop one day, then come back and complain. No, wait, don't.

For the OP, why not just suck it up and eat your dinner? And you weren't LITERALLY trapped, you were FIGURATIVELY trapped. Another pet peeve of mine. Had you been LITERALLY trapped, some kind of metal vice would have been clamped on your leg preventing you from leaving the vicinity.

 

[married@wdw]

Well, I have to agree with the OP that I would have been horrified at the situation and that the family stayed. Whether the child vomited due to a virus or some other problem, I think it was her body's way of saying it needed a break and the family was most likely pushing their child too hard thinking they HAVE to do everything. And I would NEVER expect a restaurant to seat me next to vomit AFTER it happened, especially without any warning. If that was the case, I would have been angry.

That said, if I had been the OP in that situation, I would have gotten up and walked out, stopping to tell the manager on my way out that I'm sorry, but I can't possibly eat while sitting next to vomit (well, had this happened to me, they'd probably have been cleaning up my vomit, too). Make the best of a bad situation -- grab some take out from one of the many fast food places in Future World, most of which are very good, and find a spot near the fence to enjoy my meal while watching Illuminations.

 

[Mickey&Donald]

If a little vomit or poop is the worst thing you ever smell, consider yourself flippin lucky!!! Watch someone vomit poop one day, then come back and complain. No, wait, don't.

I can hardly breathe, I'm laughing so hard!

This is seriously one of the most inane complaints I've ever heard on these boards.

I myself am a sympathy puker. I have been known to do it when I see or hear someone else do it. I work for Disney Store, and about a month ago, a mom ran over to me and demanded, "GARBAGE CAN! NOW!" I quickly handed one to her, and her young daughter immediately started voiding her stomach contents into it. I had to walk away until it was over but when it was, I was able to remove the can and help clean up the mess without getting sick. Puke happens. I've thrown up in public before. Luckily, it was only my own pride that made me feel embarrassed, not some random person nearby making rude comments about it.

The thing that really made me want to be sick was when the mom picked up her daughter, who was pale, whimpering about wanting to go home, and clearly not feeling well, and continued to SHOP for the next 30 minutes!

Seriously, OP, what did you expect the CMs at R&C to do? Wouldn't it have been MUCH grosser for them to haul out a bucket and mop, and spread the vomit everywhere? I'd much prefer seeing a pile of chem clean, contained in one spot. Also, I'm confused by your conflicting story. First, you said:

this jolly good fellow comes over and starts asking if my two girls and those two sick girls will start the fireworks for them....I am like - uh, I don't want my kids within 50 yards of these kids and there is NO WAY in **** that we will be participating in some little silly thing with a vomiting kid.....he acts like I am a crazy kook for overreacting.

and then, after a few posts telling you that, yes, you were overreacting, you said:

I didn't even say a word to the jolly guy that wanted us to start their fireworks.

Sooo... which is it? Did you tell him there was no way in hell you were going to help with Illuminations, or did you not say anything at all? I mean, if you really didn't say anything to the guy, then how would he have thought that you were overreacting about anything? Your conflicting stories are confusing.

And just so you know, you are doing your children a disservice by being the Germ Queen and carrying disinfecting products everywhere. People's immune systems are being lowered and therefore less able to fight infection thanks to all of these sanitizers that are so popular. Regular hand-washing with soap and water is perfectly effective, as is not putting one's hands in their mouths, noses and eyes.

The OP says they're never going to return to R&C because of this incident, and to that I say, GOOD! More opportunity for the rest of us to get good food and good seats for Illuminations! And to those who are never returning to Pizza Planet because someone changed a dirty diaper on the table -- you may as well never return to WDW at all! I'm guessing the millions of people that visit WDW have done FAR worse on many other surfaces around the parks. Oh yeah, and you may never want to set foot on an airplane ever again. Take it from me, a former flight attendant, some pretty horrendous things happen onboard that any real Germ Queen would probably have an aneurysm over!

 

[Martha7]

All I can say is, Mickey&Donald, you are my new hero! I can sympathize with the OP though, my DH would have had the same reaction. Guess who got to take care of the kids when they had a stomach problem?

 

[Karenj2]

Ok, I cannot believe that I'm adding to this lengthly post, but I can't help myself!

Let me sum up my understanding of the timeline of OPs post

- OP was seated in the coveted outdoor area of the R&C in time to watch Illuminations. No protien spill was around at that time.
- OP ordered, got drinks and salads, THEN noticed the smell of both spill and cleaning supplies. So OP didn't notice the child actually throwing up, or smelled the vomit, and the CMs were pretty quick to clean up the spill.
- Kid isn't throwing up anymore, so the "uncouth" family stays where they are. (Personally I don't have a problem with that if they know the child isn't sick. Accidents do happen.).
- Jolly guy asks if kids want to start the fireworks. OP says no. (You have to give the CM props for trying to make the best of the situation, and/or he might not have known that the girl had just been sick, so his question wasn't out of line...)
- Girl comes to put the umbrella down, OP asks about the spill (what it was). Now here is where I think you had a misunderstanding... OP says:

I asked the girl that came to put our umbrella down what exactly happened, I mean if I am wrong and it isn't vomit I would feel MUCH better and it would save me from worrying now for the next several nights of our trip if my kids are going to wake up ill, but she gives us some garbage excuse that this sawdust and chem clean up is "standard procedure" and done all the time and she doesn't know why it is being done 5 ft from us and what happened.

The girl might have thought that you thought it was something worse than vomit, since they used chems and sawdust. Her response of saying that it's standard procedure is not being condecending, but trying to be reassuring...
- OP asks to be moved. People have already said this ad nauseum (pun intended), but the R&C was probably packed (outside especially) and busy right around Illuminations, so I can understand them not being able to seat you somewhere immediately. My question is, if it bothered you that badly, why wait 'til now? You weren't "literally" trapped - couldn't someone else in your party have gone in and talk with the hostess if you couldn't?
- OP was moved. R&C responded to your request, probably in the fastest manner possible given the fireworks and how busy they were...
- R&C also reduced the bill (even if you had demanded it, they weren't under any obligation to do so).

My question is, what WOULD have satisfied you? If R&C had kicked out the other family (which you don't know with certainty that the girl was actually sick)? If R&C had made some other family move so you could stay outside? If R&C had comped your entire meal?

I don't get it - accidents happen, "protien spills" happen. Heck, *I* threw up when I was a teenager while in line at the Great Movie Ride. For me, it was a combination of the heat and constantly walking by a kilbasa stand with sour kraut (BLECH) while in line. I have no idea if I hit anyone else, 'cause I also fainted, but I do remember the wonderful (and cute!) CM who brought me into the shade, got me something cool to drink, and basically made me feel better about such an embarassing situation.

I think the R&C handled the situation as best they could, but hey, if you don't want to ever eat there again, that's your perogative.

 

[DisneyMomJen]

Lives4Disney,

I completely agree on how you felt in this situation. I have 4 children and after having my first I became a germ nut. It is amazing the things they can catch and how often they get sick (and then I get sick and still have to take care of everyone). I would be so worried that we would catch a stomache virus if we were sitting within close distance of someone throwing up and that our vacation would be ruined. I know children vomit for other reasons than a stomache virus (mine have also), but no one needs their vacation ruined due to an illness, especially if it can be avoided. We probably would have asked to sit somewhere else, or just left the restaurant.

 

[Mickey1122]

The GROSSEST thing happened to us last night at Rose & Crown and because of the runaround and BS we got, we will NEVER eat there again. We had a 7:30 ADR, arrived and were seated about 8:10 outside next to a table with two families (4 adults and 2 little girls) that were about done eating. Table full of used plates, glasses, etc. We order and are happy....get salads drinks, etc. THEN I smell the distinct smell of vomit and cleaning chems like they use in schools and I just feel so ill. I look over and a CM is cleaning w/sawdust and spreading it around etc into the grout of the stone floor. OK, enough. I mean we are within 5 ft of this stuff and trapped. The only way out was over this vomit. I told my girls (they were even closer) to move over to my side of the table. I asked our waiter if one of their little ones thru up. I get some runaround with a smile that "quite possibly"....and he goes away! OK, maybe I have rocks in my head, but there is NO WAY I am going to sit there and be able to enjoy our meal smelling this and seeing it spread into the floor! We had this awesome table RIGHT by the water....these people procede to keep their place 'cause obviously they don't want to leave with illuminations starting soon....how uncouth. The little girl sits on her mom's lap and they order dessert!!!!! I am ready to vomit, myself. In the next few minutes while we are waiting for it to be completely spread around (cleaned up) and find out what our options are, this jolly good fellow comes over and starts asking if my two girls and those two sick girls will start the fireworks for them....I am like - uh, I don't want my kids within 50 yards of these kids and there is NO WAY in **** that we will be participating in some little silly thing with a vomiting kid.....he acts like I am a crazy kook for overreacting. (I don't THINK so)I asked the girl that came to put our umbrella down what exactly happened, I mean if I am wrong and it isn't vomit I would feel MUCH better and it would save me from worrying now for the next several nights of our trip if my kids are going to wake up ill, but she gives us some garbage excuse that this sawdust and chem clean up is "standard procedure" and done all the time and she doesn't know why it is being done 5 ft from us and what happened. I told her we just arrived and there is NO WAY I want my girls to get sick and no way I want my trip ruined by illness. (I am the mega handiwipe queen) Ask to be moved to another table. WELL, you would think I asked to dine with the queen. So put out were they. We had to ask 5 different people to be moved or if we could just leave and skip the whole thing. They just acted so Disneyish like there is NO problem, it's in our heads and we are making a big deal out of nothing. After we got aggravated and wanted to just leave (that was my first reaction but we were literally trapped)they did move us to an inside table, but at this point after having to walk over the vomit covered in sawdust and spread into the stone to get inside, we had no appetite left at all. We ate NOTHING. The waiter took off one meal - whoopee. I just cannot get over the nerve of those people staying with their ill kid, either! How rude and stupid. I would rather eat next to a 1/2 naked hairy, dirty guy in a Speedo with bare feet than a person throwing up......maybe it's just me but come on - talk about unsanitary. GROSS. I was just so disgusted by how we were made to feel like WE had the issue because we were asking to be moved, not the people that thought Illuminations was so important that they had to stay and expose everybody out there to this sickness. I understand about kids all of a sudden being sick, but to stay in a restaurant with a kid that is obviously ill is just selfish and I am really surprised that they weren't asked to leave by somebody at R & C.

Lives4Disney

Don't mean to be rude, but you seriously overreacter in my book. It's not like the girl wanted to throw up. Ad even if she did, it's no huge deal. Look at the bright side. The CMs are trying to clean it up. The girl will feel better after watching Illuminations. This situation could happen at any restaurant, so there's no reason to get mad at Rose and Crown.

 

[me-cinderella]

My DS once vomited in a restaurant.....Yuck...BUT it was because he SAW some "moisture" (aka spit) on his sister's straw!!!
He also did this at his school because someone made a "spitball" from straw paper!

So he didn't have a virus, and no heat problems, and his body didn't need to rest...he just has a sensitive stomach.
Maybe the same is true for one of those other children, and we shouldn't judge without the facts.