WDW vs. Universal. My definitive comparison.

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What a terrible review!

I'll address it point for point:



Did you form those strong opinions before or after you ever set foot inside Universal?



Well, I certainly feel different. While each place has its strengths and weaknesses, I wouldn't say that either place could blow the other out of the water.


Wrong, wrong, and wrong again.

Complaining about the lack of Disney Magic at Uni is like looking for Coke at a Pepsi plant, then complaining that there's nothing to drink - while you're surrounded by thousands of litres of Pepsi!

There is abundant magic at Universal - Movie Magic. If you know how to look for it, and open your heart to it, it flows as strongly as Disney Magic. But it's a different flavor. Just because you don't like the taste doesn't means it's not there; you just didn't try a sip.



Did you go to the same Universal that I've been going to for the last 18 years? I see plenty of attention to detail, from the stars on the street to the old Hollywood style street lamps to the Blues Brothers live performance (daily) to the replicas of Doc Brown's train and Delorean... it goes on.



Did you speak to any TMs while you were there? Because I have not had a bad experience with a Uni TM, in either park, in years. I find the TMs at Uni to be not only just as good at Disney CMs, but happier and more enthusiastic in their jobs. Their smiles aren't forced, and they truly enjoy working for Uni.



Again, I think you must have been at a different Walt Disney World and Universal Studios Florida than I have been visiting for the last 18 years, because I have not encountered any significant difference in "sloppiness" between CMs and TMs. And I have never, ever seen a character at either place step out of character, nor have I seen duplicate characters. I'm sure they do happen; nobody is perfect, and with as many Tiggers and Scoobies as there are, once in a while there must be more than one on the street. On the other hand, AFAIK, Uni only has one Mystery Machine van, which drives Scooby and Shaggy out to their meeting places, so I'm not sure how you could have seen more than one Scoob and Shag at the same time in the same park. Maybe it was the same Scoob and Shag - they move around a lot, and might have repositioned by van while you were walking.



I disagree completely on quality - I think generally, WDW and Uni are about equal, with a few exceptions. And I've never gotten a turkey leg from either place that was more than mediocre.

But on options, I agree that Uni falls behind. Uni has made the mistake of putting their best restaurants in CityWalk and the resorts, not in the parks. I guess they wanted the additional opening time (since resort restaurants are not tied to park hours) and the additional exposure (since you don't need a park pass to eat at either CityWalk or the resorts), but it tends to leave the parks short on good dining. Still, if you want some great food, it's a lot easier to walk out of either park to CityWalk than it is to walk out of a WDW park and go to Downtown Disney. Uni's 3 resorts are as close as the Epcot resorts are to Epcot and DHS, as well.



Okay, so I guess you missed the Speak and Spell and the man with the keys on ET, and you missed the Wakita signs and Meg's wind chimes in Twister, and you missed the bloody hand print on the Orca's window in Jaws, and the overwhelming details in T2:3D, and maybe you missed the Disney nametag on the shirt that the compys are fighting over on the Jurassic Park River adventure - but you couldn't have missed the sounds of the compys moving through the grass all around JP or the way that the park's theme music comes from speakers disguised as Jurassic Park motion trackers!

Lack of details? Boring? I think NOT! At least, not if you pay attention and are even passingly familiar with the source materials (movies, TV, cartoons, and comics) of the various USF and IOA areas and attractions.



What sort of problems? And what, exactly, do you mean by "undemocratic?"



Ditto, though I was a fan of the Hundred Acre Wood gang as a kid, so the first time I ever saw Winnie the Pooh in the parks I went from 21 to 9 in a half second, practically jumped off a moving bus, and ran up to get a pic with him.



Uni has always tried to attract an older demographic than WDW. If you go there looking for nothing by kiddie rides, you'll be disappointed. You're dead if you aim only for kids, anyway.



That hasn't been my experience at Uni. I won't say anything more than that.



Uni's target demographic is families with teens. It's a teen-friendly place, with lots of teen-oriented and teen-appropriate areas and attractions. As a "young 37" (FYI - I'm an OLD 38, myself), naturally you might not fully appreciate or even understand all of the humor, the intensity, or the sights and sounds.



Boy, I can't even begin to address this one. Amity, the various New York streets, the Embarcadero... all of these areas are themed as well as anything WDW has, and all of the IOA islands blow WDW away on atmosphere and architecture. I don't recall Disney ever putting stuff in the grass to rustle it as though there were dinosaurs walking through it, coupled with sound effects of the dinos calls and footsteps - and that's not even a queue, it's just the walkways! The only parts of WDW that are as totally immersive on theming as IOA are the World Showcase pavilions and perhaps Main Street USA.



I disagree - ALL of that stuff is important, specifically because it all adds up.



If you found T2:3D boring, I would guess that you're not a fan of the Terminator franchise, and thus would not be terribly impressed with the attraction no matter what.



I don't ride the water rides, so I can't address your comments except to say that Toon Lagoon and its attractions are supposed to be "McDonalds Playland-ish" because it's a cartoon-themed land. It's supposed to look like a cartoon - bright, garish, loud, and fake. Cartoonish.


Magic doesn't come from theme parks. It doesn't come from rides, or shows, or restaurants or resorts. Magic, whether Disney or any other variety, comes from us, from our own hearts. You can't experience Disney Magic unless you have some within you to begin with - WDW just lets it out and lets it breathe.

The same holds true for Universal. The Uni parks are designed to celebrate movies, TV shows, cartoons, and comic books. They have a more limited appeal, because not everyone likes movies - just like not everyone likes Disney. But for those of us who do love the Terminator movies, E.T., Jaws, the Simpsons, Shrek, the Nickelodeon characters, the Blues Brothers, the Marx Brothers, Scooby and Shaggy, or Lucy and Ricky, Universal lets that magic out every time.


Not hardly (movie fans - name that quote!)



Which one did you stay in? What sort of things did they "nickel and dime" you on? Did you feel anything else was wrong with them? Was service lacking? Was your room not clean? Did you get a bad view?

The Uni resorts all seem comparable to WDW Deluxes to me - at similar or lower prices - and the theming, dining options, and service all seem as good or better than most Disney resorts.

Personally, I can't believe anyone would spend $240 on one night in any hotel, but that's just me; I'm a Value guy and love the All-Stars, and when I stay in the Uni area I stay at an off-site hotel on I-drive and get a good value for my money.

Pound for pound, I'd say this comparisson is about as far off as it can get.

Who are you to say this was a 'terrible review'? This is this guys OPINION on the park, and one that alot of us agree with. Personally I don't care if anyone likes, dislikes, attends, or stay away from Universal.

No one really cares if you rated it a 'terrible review', because no one asked you to.
 
Heck, I can beat that. At Six Flags Great America in IL, the workers are as thuggy as the clientele! One Halloween season we were waiting to board Iron Wolf. A group of line jumpers shoved past us, and when I got to the loading platform, I notified the ride attendant. All of the people around us backed us up and confirmed that the group had shoved by everyone and cut. The attendant rolled his eyes at me and said, "Too bad. If you don't like it, you should learn to cut yourself." After I picked up my jaw from the floor, I told him I'd be having a word with guest services, and he said, "Good luck." I did complain to GS and could tell why he didn't care...it was clear they didn't give a whoop either, although at least they didn't tell me to learn to be a cutter.


hey, you're preaching to the choir here when you talk great america.....

i'm a 15 minute drive to there and have their season passes.

bet you didn't know there are more guns found thru the metal detectors at that park.......

it can have a rough group there, but i only go for some of the shows and certain rides.
and i drop by in the summer evenings at times for the funnel cakes.

you never feel safe with your car locked in their parking lots.
in our weekly local newspaper, the police blotter always lists the weeks arrests at six flags, and car break ins......
 
When I want to ride rides, I go to Universal. When I want Magic, I go to Disney.

The essense of why I spend one day in Universal, and a week in Disney. It only takes a day to ride the rides. I can enjoy the Magic for much longer.

We go frequently to both, and enjoy each intensely as if were the first time for us! My kids are now 10 & 9 so the Disney rides are a bit sedate, but we love the immersive experience that only Disney can provide. The rides at Universal are GREAT!

Universal has fun rides and coasters, while I believe they do a great job theming. Not Disney great, but great nontheless.
 
Funny enough DD was origionally done for Disney (by an outside company, all the companies tend to hire out some design work) to go in the "Beastly Kingdom" at AK. I was speaking with a gentleman who works for that company once and he was laughing that Universal changed so little about the attraction that there are still hidden Mickeys in the queue.

As for other detailed attractions, I used to LOVE 'Posiedon's Fury" when it was a walk-through.

Wow, thats a new one on me. I'll have to keep an eye out for the hidden mickey's next time I'm there. Granted, that will be after the Harry Potter conversion so I'm not sure if it will be the same or not. Any idea where/what the hidden mickey's are?
 

Do others agree with this assessment?
Unfortunately no, I don't agree 100% with your assessment. But that's OK.

a. The quality of the help is off the charts different. Universal had typical McDonald's-esque type help. Not terrible, but visibly disinterested in being there. Poorly trained, etc. I can give examples. Disney folks were usually nice and helpful (and without being fakey sappy, for the most part).
In our dozens of trips over the years, we have run into more poor employees at Disney than at Universal. As Metro West said, a lot of people work at both WDW and US.

b. Sloppiness. One great example: I was excited to see Shaggy and Scooby Doo. Then I walked a couple of blocks down and guess what? ANOTHER Shaggy and Scooby! I've never seen that at Disney and can't imagine it happening. Talk about breaking the illusion that these are the "one and only, real" characters. It just seemed sort of dumb and poorly done.
I agree, for someone who believes the “illusion” of one and only real characters, this would be somewhat confusing.


c. Food. Just fewer options, lower quality. Burgers were fattier, Turkey legs were less tasty. (However their lemon and blueberry slushes were awsome!!)
One of our pet peeves is food at Disney. While we like the variety of restaurants at Disney, they also can't compare to Universal/IOA. We've found that Disney offers a lot of the same food at their restaurants but at Universal/IOA and Citywalk you have a number of restaurants each offering something unique. The restaurants at Universal/IOA & CityWalk offer much more than burgers and turkey legs.

2. Traveling with younger kids. Disney is much better. Universal had some cool stuff for young ones. In fact, I absolutely adored their mini water park at Universal Studios. BUT, most rides not explicitly for kids are inappropriate for them. In Disney most rides are kid friendly, but there are a few rides kids shouldn't do. In Universal it is exactly the opposite.
I have heard people say that as their kids grow up, they find Disney more "childish" as compared to Universal. Universal/IOA is definitely more "grown up" overall however there are still plenty of attractions for all age groups. Saying that, we are spoon fed Disney from the time we are born - Disney movies, Disney plush toys, Disney everything, and I feel that's why we hold Disney so close to our hearts. It's like part of the family and there is nothing wrong with that.


3. Public. The crowd at Universal, particularly on the weekend was... different. There was a much higher "Jerry Springer Audience" quotient at Universal. I'm not saying that's bad, it's just different. What was bad was there was also a significant "thug" quotient at Universal on the weekend. And I'm not using that as code for any particular ethnic group. There was equal opportunity thugishness going on. Not like it was dangerous or anything. Just a lot more tough characters around.
Hmmmmm …. We’ve never run into any “thug” types at Universal … :confused3 . I think what you were seeing is that "grown up” thing at Universal . Disney and Universal both offer totally different experiences and cater to people with different interests.

As the others have said, WDW and US really can't be compared - even Universal Studios and IOA are completely different environments.

Bottom line is what's right for you and your family, might not be right for someone else. Arguing about which park is better is just silly - it's like arguing over which flavor of ice cream is best. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and it doesn’t make it wrong because they don't share the same opinion as you, or you prefer one over the other.


Bonny
 
Funny enough DD was origionally done for Disney (by an outside company, all the companies tend to hire out some design work) to go in the "Beastly Kingdom" at AK. I was speaking with a gentleman who works for that company once and he was laughing that Universal changed so little about the attraction that there are still hidden Mickeys in the queue.

As for other detailed attractions, I used to LOVE 'Posiedon's Fury" when it was a walk-through.

That doesn't ring true to me, because if a company hires a consulting firm to design something, the resulting design belongs entirely to the company, not the consulting firm. And I'm sure that if Disney hired an outside firm to design a roller coaster for their parks, they would write it into the contract in no uncertain terms that the resulting design would belong solely to Disney.

Even though there was no "Beastly Kingdom" ever built, if there was a coaster or other attraction designed for it, whether by Disney in-house or by an outside firm, Disney would own those designs and never let them go, especially not to its number one rival in the theme park business in Orlando.
 
Who are you to say this was a 'terrible review'? This is this guys OPINION on the park, and one that alot of us agree with. Personally I don't care if anyone likes, dislikes, attends, or stay away from Universal.

No one really cares if you rated it a 'terrible review', because no one asked you to.

Who are you to ask me who I am?

I notice that you didn't take anyone to task who wrote, "What a terrific review!" Who are they to say whether it was a terrific review - This is OPs OPINION on the park, and one that a lot of us disagree with.

Obviously, you cared enough to write this post. If my opinion didn't matter to you, you would have ignored it and read on.

And for the record, the OP asked me when he said:
Do others agree with this assessment?
 
Who are you to ask me who I am?

I notice that you didn't take anyone to task who wrote, "What a terrific review!" Who are they to say whether it was a terrific review - This is OPs OPINION on the park, and one that a lot of us disagree with.

Obviously, you cared enough to write this post. If my opinion didn't matter to you, you would have ignored it and read on.

And for the record, the OP asked me when he said:

WillCAD - :thumbsup2

As for the review I'm glad the OP posted here. I like to read about places I plan to go to, so I have some kind of an idea what to expect. All of the reviews I've read on WDW have let me wean out the places/attractions that we would like or might not like. Those reviews both good and bad have been invaluable for me.

We will be doing US/IOA on our next trip to Orlando, because I just can't see paying the increased Disney prices for less product again next year. (My kids will be in a different price bracket) I'm looking forward to staying at the Royal Pacific or the Portofino. ;) We will go back to WDW in a few years, but I would like to go somewhere else in Orlando too. :)
 
Uni has always tried to attract an older demographic than WDW. If you go there looking for nothing by kiddie rides, you'll be disappointed. You're dead if you aim only for kids, anyway.

Uni's target demographic is families with teens. It's a teen-friendly place, with lots of teen-oriented and teen-appropriate areas and attractions. As a "young 37" (FYI - I'm an OLD 38, myself), naturally you might not fully appreciate or even understand all of the humor, the intensity, or the sights and sounds.


Interesting review from op, with some interesting details...I thin it can be difficult to assess the differences. I can see why some would say it shouldn't be done, but tehn....

I agree withthis point by Willcad - and I think that sums upa good part of the difference I notice. WDw is unique as far as theme parks to me, because tehre are SO MANY rides that appeal to the whole family. And that just sets the tone for the whole park. Every other amusement park I've been to has THRILL rides, and KIDDIE rides - and very little in between. In most cases, kids can't ride teh thrill rides, and sadly, in mamny cases, the adults can't even go on the kiddie rides.

So that's sets up a different tone. Since Universal is more of a teen/adult park, people act more like teens/adults. There is more overt drinking, more adult language. At WDW, you see more adults acting like kids. Sure, sometimes they are whiney...but you also see plenty of adults wearking Goofy ears. That was one thing that stood out to me greatly at Disney Paris - I didn't see hardly any adults wearing any character themed items.

I do think Universal has some great rides, and some great theming. Indeed, Spiderman, The Mummy, and Shrek are dead on, IMO. I also think MIB blows away Buzz
 
Very intresting.Evryone does have a wright to there own opinion,I have no problem with that at all..

But you really cann't compare the two...

Disney has their theme(that are outdated to me)
US-IOA have there own(which to me is newer and more cutting edge)

See I have a opinion also..

I'm just going to sit back and watch this silly thread popcorn::
 
I agree with a lot of what you said. I really like Universal and it is better than most theme parks I've been to - except for Disney. It will always be #2 behind Disney for me. I don't really agree with what you said about the resorts. I personally think all three of them are on par with any of the Disney deluxe resorts and aren't too overpriced. Also, I think the theming is pretty great at Universal (although they aren't near as good as Disney is at upkeeping it) and their ride queues are just as good or better than the lines at Disney, especially Revenge of the Mummy, Men in Black, Spider-Man, and of course Dueling Dragons. :)
 
So people are being really unkind about this guy simply giving his opinion...in essence saying their opinion is more credible than his. Fascinating...

popcorn::
 
ALL OPINIONS ARE WELCOME.

Let me say that again.. Because it's very important...

All opinions are welcome.

You don't have agree and yes you can absolutely disagree.

As long as it doesn't devolve into name-calling and such ... it can stay at a level of civil discourse and so far in this thread, it seems it has.

The poster asked if others agreed, that definitely invites competing opinions to post and disagree.

Share your opinions and experiences - of course - that's what the DIS is all about. Please keep it respectful and courteous.

Knox
 
I'm not trying to sound obnoxious here....but why do these comparisons. Disney is Disney and Universal is Universal. I would not compare apples and oranges, so why compare these two?

I recommend both!

Oh..for the person that mentioned that there is more of a "thug"-like audience at Universal, I strongly suggest that you visit Six Flags in Jersey....that is where you will see the "thugs".

But they're both Theme Parks, so we are comparing Apples to Apples
 
I really enjoyed reading your opinions. I have never been to Universal, (and I probably never will. Unless I end up staying in Florida for a month) and I don't think it would be able to live up to my expectations for theme parks.

Your comparison made me feel good and love disney even more.

Thanks :)
 
I am quoting this, and answering these with my own answers
What a terrible review!

I'll address it point for point:



Did you form those strong opinions before or after you ever set foot inside Universal?
After


Wrong, wrong, and wrong again.

Complaining about the lack of Disney Magic at Uni is like looking for Coke at a Pepsi plant, then complaining that there's nothing to drink - while you're surrounded by thousands of litres of Pepsi!
He was complaining that the "Disney Magic" Made WDW tons better than Uni and that the lack of it made Uni bland
There is abundant magic at Universal - Movie Magic. If you know how to look for it, and open your heart to it, it flows as strongly as Disney Magic. But it's a different flavor. Just because you don't like the taste doesn't means it's not there; you just didn't try a sip.
I saw no magic at all there

Did you go to the same Universal that I've been going to for the last 18 years? I see plenty of attention to detail, from the stars on the street to the old Hollywood style street lamps to the Blues Brothers live performance (daily) to the replicas of Doc Brown's train and Delorean... it goes on.
I saw tons of flaws at Uni that Disney would never have

Did you speak to any TMs while you were there? Because I have not had a bad experience with a Uni TM, in either park, in years. I find the TMs at Uni to be not only just as good at Disney CMs, but happier and more enthusiastic in their jobs. Their smiles aren't forced, and they truly enjoy working for Uni.
You're right, their smiles aren't forced, they don't smile at all. "Heh, I guess" "*Rolls eyes*" and "Why?" were things I heard all day from TMs. They were extremely unfriendly and seemed like they hated their job. They didn't want to do anything at the CS restaurants. The only nice employees that I found where at the NBA City, and they were not Uni employees.

Again, I think you must have been at a different Walt Disney World and Universal Studios Florida than I have been visiting for the last 18 years, because I have not encountered any significant difference in "sloppiness" between CMs and TMs. And I have never, ever seen a character at either place step out of character, nor have I seen duplicate characters. I'm sure they do happen; nobody is perfect, and with as many Tiggers and Scoobies as there are, once in a while there must be more than one on the street. On the other hand, AFAIK, Uni only has one Mystery Machine van, which drives Scooby and Shaggy out to their meeting places, so I'm not sure how you could have seen more than one Scoob and Shag at the same time in the same park. Maybe it was the same Scoob and Shag - they move around a lot, and might have repositioned by van while you were walking.
Hmm, I saw this happen too, maybe you just don't pay attention since you love Uni so much. The characters even seemed that they hated their job, and they weren't "real"


I disagree completely on quality - I think generally, WDW and Uni are about equal, with a few exceptions. And I've never gotten a turkey leg from either place that was more than mediocre.
You're right about Turkey Legs, but I got a Chicken Sandwich that was $10 and was smaller than a McD's burger, and it didn't come with fries or a drink. It tasted worse than a tofu sandwich too. :scared1:

But on options, I agree that Uni falls behind. Uni has made the mistake of putting their best restaurants in CityWalk and the resorts, not in the parks. I guess they wanted the additional opening time (since resort restaurants are not tied to park hours) and the additional exposure (since you don't need a park pass to eat at either CityWalk or the resorts), but it tends to leave the parks short on good dining. Still, if you want some great food, it's a lot easier to walk out of either park to CityWalk than it is to walk out of a WDW park and go to Downtown Disney. Uni's 3 resorts are as close as the Epcot resorts are to Epcot and DHS, as well.
But there are great restaurants inside of the parks, which Uni does not have


Okay, so I guess you missed the Speak and Spell and the man with the keys on ET, and you missed the Wakita signs and Meg's wind chimes in Twister, and you missed the bloody hand print on the Orca's window in Jaws, and the overwhelming details in T2:3D, and maybe you missed the Disney nametag on the shirt that the compys are fighting over on the Jurassic Park River adventure - but you couldn't have missed the sounds of the compys moving through the grass all around JP or the way that the park's theme music comes from speakers disguised as Jurassic Park motion trackers!
But Disney has better hidden details, such as the Hidden Mickey's. Uni is copying Disney with a lot of things too, FastPass, Pins, etc...

Lack of details? Boring? I think NOT! At least, not if you pay attention and are even passingly familiar with the source materials (movies, TV, cartoons, and comics) of the various USF and IOA areas and attractions.
I did not see any details that were worth noting, and I do pay attention to details

Uni has always tried to attract an older demographic than WDW. If you go there looking for nothing by kiddie rides, you'll be disappointed. You're dead if you aim only for kids, anyway.
Uni's target demographic is families with teens. It's a teen-friendly place, with lots of teen-oriented and teen-appropriate areas and attractions. As a "young 37" (FYI - I'm an OLD 38, myself), naturally you might not fully appreciate or even understand all of the humor, the intensity, or the sights and sounds.
Yes, they are gearing it towards Teens, but I am a Teen and I hate Uni


Boy, I can't even begin to address this one. Amity, the various New York streets, the Embarcadero... all of these areas are themed as well as anything WDW has, and all of the IOA islands blow WDW away on atmosphere and architecture. I don't recall Disney ever putting stuff in the grass to rustle it as though there were dinosaurs walking through it, coupled with sound effects of the dinos calls and footsteps - and that's not even a queue, it's just the walkways! The only parts of WDW that are as totally immersive on theming as IOA are the World Showcase pavilions and perhaps Main Street USA.
Gosh, have you ever waited in line for any Disney attraction? The windows at Space Mountain, the whole Test Track queue, Expedition Everest with all of the aritifacts, TOY STORY MANIA!

There basically is no theming at all at Uni. Speaking of architecture, have you seen ANY of the buildings at EPCOT? Look at the amazing structures there, then tell me that IOA's blocks blow it away.


Magic doesn't come from theme parks. It doesn't come from rides, or shows, or restaurants or resorts. Magic, whether Disney or any other variety, comes from us, from our own hearts. You can't experience Disney Magic unless you have some within you to begin with - WDW just lets it out and lets it breathe.
Magic DOES come from theme parks. It DOES come from rides, shows, restaurants, and resorts. HAVE YOU EVER VISITED A DISNEY PARK? They are so magical, how they do everything and all.

The same holds true for Universal. The Uni parks are designed to celebrate movies, TV shows, cartoons, and comic books. They have a more limited appeal, because not everyone likes movies - just like not everyone likes Disney. But for those of us who do love the Terminator movies, E.T., Jaws, the Simpsons, Shrek, the Nickelodeon characters, the Blues Brothers, the Marx Brothers, Scooby and Shaggy, or Lucy and Ricky, Universal lets that magic out every time.
There is no magic in any of those movies

The Uni resorts all seem comparable to WDW Deluxes to me - at similar or lower prices - and the theming, dining options, and service all seem as good or better than most Disney resorts.
The Uni resorts are blocks, and the WDW Deluxes are not. The architecture and theming do not stack up to WDW.


Pound for pound, I'd say this comparisson is about as far off as it can get.
I'd say that it's as close as you can get to an accurate, unbiased review
 
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Give it up, Marauder...just think of it as more space and shorter lines for us magic hating, bland loving Universal fans!
 
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