WDW Vet's take on DCA

gowensby

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Just returned Friday from my first trip to DLR after dozens of trips to WDW. I was a Central FL resident for years, and I consider WDW my home park.

First, I loved the MK at Disneyland. Dare I say, more than WDW. I missed the castle, but the charm of New Orleans Square made up for any deficit.

I went to DCA my second day. I first went to the Studio area. My first impression was, "Where is everything?" It seemed so empty. Part of it was the low crowds that day. I thought, oh this is Disney's Hollywood Studios.

Then I went to Paradise Pier and thought, oh this is Six Flags. Very unimpressed with PP except for TSMM. I had been looking forward to Mickey's Fun Wheel, but after riding felt like the 25 minute wait just wasn't worth it. Slow loading and not that much fun. CA Screaming was a great thrill ride, but not so much better than anything at a typical amusement park. TSMM was the only ride which I felt really themed the experience beginning with the qeue. Maliboomer looked like similar tower rides, but was much slower up and down than what I've experienced elsewhere. I was underwhelmed by most everything on the Pier.

Then I headed to the Wharf which I found charming, and I thought, oh this is Epcot. The tortilla factory and the bread tour were nice diversions. There just wasn't much to do or see, but I found the atmosphere relaxing and ate lunch there twice.

Though I was traveling solo, no kids, I went into Bug's Land. I was blown away! :thumbsup2 This is where I really felt the Disney magic! Creativity oozed out of this location. I took dozens of photos here. The lamposts were incredible. Even the bathroom entrance was imaginative! I didn't ride anything but Heimlich's Chew-Chew train. I wanted to see if Cory's imitation was accuarte! :rotfl2: It was. I enjoyed the creativity and imagineering of this one slow kid's ride more than anything but TSMM on Paradis Pier! It was a pleasure to ride. The sights and smells were remarkable.

I had the same magic feeling about the Golden State area. Well-themed and interesting to view. GRR was a great ride and the cast member at the FP location was excellent and engaging. The Redwood Trail was informative about CA, but I can see why locals wouldn't be as engaged.

Condor Flats was ok. Just small. Soarin' is still a great ride. The fact that I worry about losing a shoe tells me the illustion is working!

The Blue Sky Cellar was interesting. The cast member, John, was knowledgeable and easy to speak with. We spoke for at least 15 minutes and he was attentive and responded to my questions. He kindly deflected some criticism from a passing AP holder. I will return once Cars land, Fountain show and the other improvements are completed.

Overall, I enjoyed DCA, but I view it as a park that can't make up its mind what it wants to be. Hollywood Studios? Epcot? Six Flags? The problem is that it doesn't give enough effor or space to do any one of those parks well. In each area, besides Bug's Land, I kept thinking, "Is this it?"
 
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Overall, I enjoyed DCA, but I view it as a park that can't make up its mind what it wants to be. Hollywood Studios? Epcot? Six Flags? The problem is that it doesn't give enough effor or space to do any one of those parks well. In each area, besides Bug's Land, I kept thinking, "Is this it?"

Yeah, it seems to be a bunch of pre fab buy out of a catalog carnival-esque rides. EPCOT rocks, plain and simple.
 
Thanks for the trip report. I am curious about DCA myself.

I have been to WDW many times, including 4 times since last July, but I haven't been to DLR since before DCA was open (despite living in N. Cali:rolleyes1)

I am curious to see what my impressions of the park are and am heading there in 9 days!!!!

Am petrified of California Screamin:scared1::scared1::scared1:
 
I agree with you about all your takes on DCA. May I ask one question though? Did you ride Monsters Inc or see the Aladdin stage show? Both are very good in my opinion. Aladdin is better than any stage show done in WDW.

I am excited about Little Mermaid dark ride, World Of Color (Bellagio Fountain show), and Carsland which I hope turns into Route 66 or some other name. I would also like to see some kind of better dining in the park in the likes of the Brown Derby or Sci-Fi drive in. Oh yeah and maybe bring in Mickey's Phillharmagic to make a day of it.
 

I can't wait for the changes but I do like DCA. Sometimes I feel like the only one. I'm not missing "The Whoopie Show". I agree with PP- the Monsters ride is not be missed! :thumbsup2 I haven't seen Aladdin but plan to this June. I also really like the Muppets. And yes, the bug land really does have the best theme. I love taking pics there! :)
 
Excellent report (or take). Thanks for posting. :thumbsup2

I also love Heimlich, Soarin' & Griz.....(but also Monsters, Screamin', the Zephyr, the Corn Dog Palace, Crush AND Aladdin :3dglasses).


But....but.....
...... "I loved the MK at Disneyland" ....

:tilt:
:faint:


;)
 
:confused: Not to be down on anyone, but I wish folks could see the whole picture of the park instead of always saying that it doesn't know what it wants to be.

It that is EXACTLY what the designers wanted it to be - kind of like postcards of everything that California is known and loved for.

Think about it - flipping through a rack of postcards - you see all sorts of images! Each time you turn the corner in DCA, you see a new beloved thing from the history of California. Here is Hollywood. Here is Wine Country. Here is the greatness of the Northern CA forests. here are our Bountiful Farms. The docks and city of San Francisco. Here are the historic and now dying Pier Amusement Parks - which rivaled Coney Island in their day.

Sigh.... maybe it's just too subtle....
Ok done now....
 
:confused: Not to be down on anyone, but I wish folks could see the whole picture of the park instead of always saying that it doesn't know what it wants to be.

It that is EXACTLY what the designers wanted it to be - kind of like postcards of everything that California is known and loved for.

Think about it - flipping through a rack of postcards - you see all sorts of images! Each time you turn the corner in DCA, you see a new beloved thing from the history of California. Here is Hollywood. Here is Wine Country. Here is the greatness of the Northern CA forests. here are our Bountiful Farms. The docks and city of San Francisco. Here are the historic and now dying Pier Amusement Parks - which rivaled Coney Island in their day.

Sigh.... maybe it's just too subtle....
Ok done now....

HERE, HERE! WELL SAID!! I have only been to DCA once, but I loved it!! Why? because it IS different. I was born and raised in CA and moved to TX because my father was relocated, but I love to go to CA. DCA reminda of everything I love about the great state of CA. :lovestruc
 
Did you go into the animation building ? Much like Epcot, it is a type of "pavillion" that houses 6 different activities/attractions. Remember this was a parking lot.....they did not have unlimited space.How about ToT?
 
I was able to see Aladdin the last day because it was only performed one day during my three-day stay. That was amazing! Very impressive. Monsters Inc was also a great dark ride and the zoetrope at the animation pavillion was stunning. The days when Aladdin wasn't playing the studio area just seemed vacant, especially in comparison to Condor Flats, PP, and Golden State areas.

I understand the post card analogy. Perhaps WDW has spoiled me because there are four distinct parks that offer deep content. DCA gave a taste. When I was at Paradise Pier I didn't feel like I was experiencing a unique California experience. So the theming didn't work, i.m.o.

I still enjoyed the park, but it didn't capture me the way Disneyland's MK did.
 
I smile warmly to myself to hear that you like "Disneyland's MK" better than WDW MK. :) Disneyland is superior in so many ways, to me. I love it when others see the charm and beauty of it as well. Oh, and it's just _Disneyland_. It's the original.

I also like that you did see some charm and magic and DCA. No, it's not a perfect park, it is too often maligned. But there is a lot to see and do there. I had been there several times before I even ventured into the forest-type area and saw what a neat little place it was (still haven't tried the water ride -- maybe this time). The bug's life area gets critisized a lot because they are just typical amusment kiddie rides, but I agree that the themeing there is fantastic. Plus, it's great to go get soaked on a hot July day.

I have high hopes for DCA. I think that most people that really give it a chance can find the magic there. It will never be Epcot, or AK, or DS, but it's not supposed to be. And once it has Ariel ride and Cars theming, I think it will be spectacular.
 
:confused: Not to be down on anyone, but I wish folks could see the whole picture of the park instead of always saying that it doesn't know what it wants to be.

It that is EXACTLY what the designers wanted it to be - kind of like postcards of everything that California is known and loved for.

Think about it - flipping through a rack of postcards - you see all sorts of images! Each time you turn the corner in DCA, you see a new beloved thing from the history of California. Here is Hollywood. Here is Wine Country. Here is the greatness of the Northern CA forests. here are our Bountiful Farms. The docks and city of San Francisco. Here are the historic and now dying Pier Amusement Parks - which rivaled Coney Island in their day.

Sigh.... maybe it's just too subtle....
Ok done now....

This is true. DCA is exactly what it was intended to be. However, I believe that the lands don't flow very well from one to the next and that can add to the 'Can't make up its mind' perception. IMHO, they put too many different areas into a space that couldn't contain them all effectively. The re-theme going on looks like it will fix much of it, but there is still one thorn in my side that appears on the new Map and that's the SF areas. I'm from the Bay Area and believe that it is one of the best parts of CA, but I'd gladly see it go away from DCA because it just isn't represented well. There are two halves to it at DCA (The wharf area [Restaurants] and the Palace of Fine Arts (Future Little Mermaid ride) / Row houses [New Bathrooms]) and they are too spread out from each other to effectively work as a single area. You are standing in the Napa area and have SF to your left, SF to your right (But around the corner so you don't actually see it) and PP in front of you. It's just a horrible layout that offers no sense of immersion because you are experiencing three separate lands at the same time and don't feel like you are part of any single one. Plus there are no SF themed attractions in either area. This could have been the NOS of DCA. There should have been an E-Ticket in the tradition of POTC (Like WRE tweaked to CA specific events like the gold rush or something) but instead, it's just facades that go nowhere and offer less. There isn't even any SF themed shopping. If you are already in SF, then you shouldn't have to go through another land before experiencing the rest of SF and there should be something there besides a pretty bathroom.

Imagine if NOS extended up the banks of the Rivers of America to the Frontierland entrance from the hub but the NOS train Station was still themed for Fronteerland. Also, remove POTC and HM but keep the BB. Now you would have Adventureland coming out right in the middle of a useless NOS, and a Frontierland that is fragmented and not consistant. That would really throw off the immersion for me. That's what you have in DCA and is its biggest problem IMHO.
 
I can't wait for the changes but I do like DCA. Sometimes I feel like the only one. I'm not missing "The Whoopie Show". I agree with PP- the Monsters ride is not be missed! :thumbsup2 I haven't seen Aladdin but plan to this June. I also really like the Muppets. And yes, the bug land really does have the best theme. I love taking pics there! :)


You absolutely are NOT the only one....our whole family love love loves DCA!!! We wish they weren't making so many changes but at the same time we are very excited about them. There's just so much about DCA to love. :)
 
First, I loved the MK at Disneyland. Dare I say, more than WDW....
I am very happy to hear you enjoyed your visit. The screaming inner-voice in my head is not allowing me to move on to the next post without making one comment, however.

Just to clarify: There is no MK at Disneyland. The Magic Kingdom is a Park at WDW. It does not exist at Disneyland.

At Walt Disney World, there are 4 major parks (excluding water parks), one of which is The Magic Kingdom. At the Disneyland Resort there are 2 parks, one of which is Disneyland.

- Dreams
 




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