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so I guess this means I don't get to dip into your collection... or was that advice to hold me until we meet again? ;)

Did you miss that those are EMTIES????? But you can show up next weekend and help add to that collection!:thumbsup2 Gaylean sticks to sour grapes or that stuff that tastes like rubbing alcohol, so you can sip the good stuff with V and I. Speakin of which......Where are you my little Ho Ho?????
 
Not sure where your little Ho Ho is tonight... I suspect off secretly listening to Mylie Cyrus Cd's...

But your entire Entemenns cheesecake...(that's me...or at least my hips are...) is going to go to sleep and try to get warm....

Will keep you in mind next week... ;)

(Did you notice the Blue Agave smiley^????)

Night Bubba...

Love to Veneita! :lovestruc
 

Hi everybody. I have been in hiding. We leave for our Disney cruise 7 weeks!! I am so excited!!

How is everybody?

Hi Lisa,
Is Daniel all settled in at college now? I think he was moving into the condo at the beginning of the semester.

Have a great cruise - which itinerary is it?

Take care,
Lisa
 
Good morning all!

Last night I had a WW staff meeting from 7 PM to 10 PM and I'll be leaving the house shortly to go lead 2 meetings where I'm subbing.

My WW boss told me that she would be coming to do observation at my Sunday meetings very soon (we never know when it's going to happen).

One good thing about having meetings on Sunday mornings is that it is the least attractive time for observation, though I really welcome it, because the feedback always helps me to make the meetings and the process better.

With all this running around this weekend for WW, I hope I lose some weight.
 
We're off to see the Disers......da dum da dum da da

Because Because Because.......Because of the wonderful friends they are.

I'm sooooooooooo excited! I'm about to head out the door and go get my hugs from Lisa and Darrell and Monica. Then we'll take on Epcot and all the food and wine.......should be a great day.......pictures to follow.
 
I sure hope you guys can give me some advice. Yesterday, my daughter (10 years old) was playing at the neighbor's house. She and the neighbor girl are close to the same age, and sometimes play together very well, sometimes they fight.

Well, yesterday my daughter comes home crying. She said that the friend was running down the hall of her house and bumped into her little sister and the little sister started crying. The mom jumped up and called the friend a "b" word, (that is what my daughter said), and proceeded to hit her twice strong enough to knock her head on the wall behind her.

The mom told my daughter to go home. She ran home, and cried for quite a while. She was worried that the mom would crack the girls head open or hurt her. And she was a bit traumatized by the whole thing. She wanted me to call Child services and report it. I did not see what happened. Although, this is not the first time that my daughter has seen hitting in their house.

She was upset for over half an hour, crying and yelling, because it made her so mad. I didn't know what to say. I didn't witness anything and I don't think that child services would pay much attention to a 10 year old. But, I did tell her to discuss it with her counselor at school, I thought she needs to discuss this with a professional as it was disturbing to her.

I don't want to start a war with my neighbor. She has been good to me and helped me with my daughter after my husband died and I believe is, basically, a good person. I believe that she just went over the edge and snapped. The other occurrences were not quite like this one. I never seen her hit her kids or use bad words around them.

I would like to think that she really feels bad about it and would never do something like this again, because she has always been so good to the kids. Taking them out to do fun things, throwing big birthday parties, and generally spoiling them. I just don't know how to proceed.

I guess I am just looking to people that I know can be objective and that I trust to have good sense for some advice. Thanks for listening....
 
Hi everybody. I have been in hiding. We leave for our Disney cruise 7 weeks!! I am so excited!!

How is everybody?

Hey, Lisa, I haven't seen you on here in a while.

I know, I have been lurking too much. I am keeping up with everything, just sometimes I don't have much to say. If you can believe that.....;)
Lisa, Tammy, great to see you both! Good to know you're both still around here. :hug:

Lisa, isn't your next cruise the one with a whole bunch of friends from church? How exciting!

Tammy, I often have nothing to say too, but enjoy reading all the chatter. :goodvibes
 
We're off to see the Disers......da dum da dum da da

Because Because Because.......Because of the wonderful friends they are.

I'm sooooooooooo excited! I'm about to head out the door and go get my hugs from Lisa and Darrell and Monica. Then we'll take on Epcot and all the food and wine.......should be a great day.......pictures to follow.
I'm so jealous! Have a great time, can't wait to see pictures! :goodvibes
 
I sure hope you guys can give me some advice. Yesterday, my daughter (10 years old) was playing at the neighbor's house. She and the neighbor girl are close to the same age, and sometimes play together very well, sometimes they fight.

Well, yesterday my daughter comes home crying. She said that the friend was running down the hall of her house and bumped into her little sister and the little sister started crying. The mom jumped up and called the friend a "b" word, (that is what my daughter said), and proceeded to hit her twice strong enough to knock her head on the wall behind her.

The mom told my daughter to go home. She ran home, and cried for quite a while. She was worried that the mom would crack the girls head open or hurt her. And she was a bit traumatized by the whole thing. She wanted me to call Child services and report it. I did not see what happened. Although, this is not the first time that my daughter has seen hitting in their house.

She was upset for over half an hour, crying and yelling, because it made her so mad. I didn't know what to say. I didn't witness anything and I don't think that child services would pay much attention to a 10 year old. But, I did tell her to discuss it with her counselor at school, I thought she needs to discuss this with a professional as it was disturbing to her.

I don't want to start a war with my neighbor. She has been good to me and helped me with my daughter after my husband died and I believe is, basically, a good person. I believe that she just went over the edge and snapped. The other occurrences were not quite like this one. I never seen her hit her kids or use bad words around them.

I would like to think that she really feels bad about it and would never do something like this again, because she has always been so good to the kids. Taking them out to do fun things, throwing big birthday parties, and generally spoiling them. I just don't know how to proceed.

I guess I am just looking to people that I know can be objective and that I trust to have good sense for some advice. Thanks for listening....

Hello Tammy

Oh look like difficult postion.

Sound like your neighbour is under stress or something bother her and she take out on her childrens.

If your neighbour good to you, I won't call child services unless if she hit your daughter.

Maybe ask school for help or you go around and ask her to come to your house for coffee.

If I was you, I probably same, dont know what to do

hope someone can help you

Scottishwee35:hug:
 
Tammy

Over UK here, lots of people worry about mortgages because lots of people had been laid off.

Share market go down down down

lots of house on sale cannot sold it

bank bankrupted

I called it dark day nowaday.

Very stressful here now

Scottishwee35
 
Speaking of neighborhoods :lmao: totally off topic but I was going to ask you if there was a pizza place close to DL that we can take the kids and they can play games and eat pizza. We are taking the kids to the DCA trick or treat thing and we wanted to go to a pizza place first.

I honestly don't know. We rarely eat over there, but check out the Garden Walk website and see if they have anything there.


It's very cool. Some rides are open and there are trick or treat candy stations and craft stations all around the park. They also now give out things like apple slices if you don't want them to have alot of candy. Sammi loved it. We've taken her twice and Michael once. Are you and Jon dressing up too?


Z loves the apples and hardly eats the candy.


Do the adults dress up? I'm lazy :rolleyes1 Why don't you guys come along?

Many families dress in a theme. We were Ratatouille last year (linguine & Collette), our friends were the entire cast of Star Wars and our other friends were all POC3. This year we will be the Robinsons from Meet the Robinsons.



So who else is wishing they were at WDW with the gang tomorow....:)

How many of us would have to go in on renting our own jet so that each 'coast' could play with the other? TIme to pick up another lotto ticket.

.

There are a ton of folks from the TA there this weekend.
 
Hello Tammy

Oh look like difficult postion.

Sound like your neighbour is under stress or something bother her and she take out on her childrens.

If your neighbour good to you, I won't call child services unless if she hit your daughter.

Maybe ask school for help or you go around and ask her to come to your house for coffee.

If I was you, I probably same, dont know what to do

hope someone can help you

Scottishwee35:hug:

Tammy, I agree with Deborah's post above. I would find a way to invite the mom over just for a visit, or maybe pop over there for a visit, and not mention what your daughter saw, but just casually mention that since she was there for you so much recently, you'd like to return the favor and that she can come to you if she ever needs anybody to talk to for any reason. I'm pretty sure she'll read between the lines, because she will have to know your daughter will tell you what she saw, and that might help her open up without making her go on the defensive.

Also a good idea you had to ask your daughter to talk to the school counselor because the school counselor might then pay close attention to the other girl to look for signs of continued abuse, because she's hopefully trained to know what to look for. Your daughter might be hesitant to take the initiative to go talk to the counselor, so maybe you might call the school and let the counselor know your daughter might have something to talk to her about?

The neighbor girl might really need extra friendship now too after that, so maybe your daughter can just somehow ask if she's OK? I doubt the other girl will talk about it, but it might help her to know she has a friend through whatever's going on.

What a rough situation for everybody involved and I'm sorry this situation happened. :grouphug:
 
Hi everybody. I have been in hiding. We leave for our Disney cruise 7 weeks!! I am so excited!!

How is everybody?

Hey, Lisa, I haven't seen you on here in a while.

I know, I have been lurking too much. I am keeping up with everything, just sometimes I don't have much to say. If you can believe that.....;)

Hello Tablemates! I sure wish we could all sit down to a nice dinner together and catch up. :grouphug:



We're off to see the Disers......da dum da dum da da

Because Because Because.......Because of the wonderful friends they are.

I'm sooooooooooo excited! I'm about to head out the door and go get my hugs from Lisa and Darrell and Monica. Then we'll take on Epcot and all the food and wine.......should be a great day.......pictures to follow.

Hope you kids all have a great time today...can't wait for the pictures.

.
 
Holly and Deb,

Thanks for the replies. In a situation like this, I am worried that i am doing too much as well as worried that i am doing too little.
 
I sure hope you guys can give me some advice. Yesterday, my daughter (10 years old) was playing at the neighbor's house. She and the neighbor girl are close to the same age, and sometimes play together very well, sometimes they fight.

Well, yesterday my daughter comes home crying. She said that the friend was running down the hall of her house and bumped into her little sister and the little sister started crying. The mom jumped up and called the friend a "b" word, (that is what my daughter said), and proceeded to hit her twice strong enough to knock her head on the wall behind her.

The mom told my daughter to go home. She ran home, and cried for quite a while. She was worried that the mom would crack the girls head open or hurt her. And she was a bit traumatized by the whole thing. She wanted me to call Child services and report it. I did not see what happened. Although, this is not the first time that my daughter has seen hitting in their house.

She was upset for over half an hour, crying and yelling, because it made her so mad. I didn't know what to say. I didn't witness anything and I don't think that child services would pay much attention to a 10 year old. But, I did tell her to discuss it with her counselor at school, I thought she needs to discuss this with a professional as it was disturbing to her.

I don't want to start a war with my neighbor. She has been good to me and helped me with my daughter after my husband died and I believe is, basically, a good person. I believe that she just went over the edge and snapped. The other occurrences were not quite like this one. I never seen her hit her kids or use bad words around them.

I would like to think that she really feels bad about it and would never do something like this again, because she has always been so good to the kids. Taking them out to do fun things, throwing big birthday parties, and generally spoiling them. I just don't know how to proceed.

I guess I am just looking to people that I know can be objective and that I trust to have good sense for some advice. Thanks for listening....



Tammy this subject is one of my final selections for my dissertation. It is something I've studied extensively and mildly discuss in my parent meetings.

A parent who raises their hand to a child has lost control of their emotions. A parent who strikes a child in the head out of anger is a parent who began at the butt, moved up the body to the arms and back and advanced over the years to the head. It is a parent who doesn't know how else to react as it is a reactive behavior, not a proactive behavior. It is a parent who lacks communication skills.

So, what do you do? Tell her you want to have coffee immediately. Tell her the truth without making excuses. "My daughter came home really scared after she saw you hit your daughter in the head and into the wall." She will insert her excuse here. Continue you with how it makes you feel without accepting her excuse. "I'm really uncomfortable with this..... but, I'm worried about it and wanted to talk to you." "I don't want you to lose your children and in many places people will take your kids away from you when they find any hitting going on in the home." "maybe in the future when you feel anger rising up you can practice taking a deep breath and finding another way to talk to your kids."

She will make excuses and act like it is a one time event and that she was having a bad day and over-reacted. She may tell you it is none of your business how she parents. Say that you understand and that you were worried because your daughter was so very, very scared. Offer her any help when she is having a bad day as she helped you when you had a bad day.

Leave it at that. You have put her on notice. I'm not saying this will be easy, it may be one of the harder things you have gone through with a neighbor (and you've already leaped some serious hurdles!) But, it will make her think and she won't do it in front of your child again or anyone else who can see her. She will continue to beat her children and it will scar her children for the rest of their lives. It will change who they are as people and as parents themselves. They will probably go on to hit others as well. Hitting comes from a legacy of hitting.

My family beat me severely and always told me I was lucky that it wasn't their parents doing it with a belt. It was always violent and out of control. We now know with science that parents who hit cause damage they can't even begin to understand in the name of "discipline." Children go on to experience lives of drug abuse, violence, hurting themselves, abusive relationships, weight issues and overall unhealthy lifestyles and choices.

We have the opportunity to change our legacy of hitters and spankers. There are so many other ways to discipline that actually teach a lesson instead of making the child fear the parent, which results in hate and lack of communication for the rest of their lives. many adults I talk to will say, "but it didn't hurt me permanently." They are almost always alcoholics, impulse spenders, screamers, binge eaters, emotionally disturbed adults but have no idea that their current behavior is a result of that initial parenting they had. This may put a small wedge between you temporarily, but you may save her children a smidgen of pain.

This won't be easy and nobody wants to hurt their neighbors feelings, but your responsibility is your own daughter who has experienced violence in the past year that no child should ever experience. She doesn’t need her mind and emotions cluttered with more violence in her life right now. By telling her that you are worried about her you are being honest and telling her how you feel. By telling her that your daughter was scared it tells her that it is about your child and guilts her into thinking about her behavior and how it affects others. You are speaking from "I" statements about how you feel. It is honest and she will see that you are just trying to protect your own children from anymore fear of life.

Good luck, Kelly
 
Tammy this subject is one of my final selections for my dissertation. It is something I've studied extensively and mildly discuss in my parent meetings.

A parent who raises their hand to a child has lost control of their emotions. A parent who strikes a child in the head out of anger is a parent who began at the butt, moved up the body to the arms and back and advanced over the years to the head. It is a parent who doesn't know how else to react as it is a reactive behavior, not a proactive behavior. It is a parent who lacks communication skills.

So, what do you do? Tell her you want to have coffee immediately. Tell her the truth without making excuses. "My daughter came home really scared after she saw you hit your daughter in the head and into the wall." She will insert her excuse here. Continue you with how it makes you feel without accepting her excuse. "I'm really uncomfortable with this..... but, I'm worried about it and wanted to talk to you." "I don't want you to lose your children and in many places people will take your kids away from you when they find any hitting going on in the home." "maybe in the future when you feel anger rising up you can practice taking a deep breath and finding another way to talk to your kids."

She will make excuses and act like it is a one time event and that she was having a bad day and over-reacted. She may tell you it is none of your business how she parents. Say that you understand and that you were worried because your daughter was so very, very scared. Offer her any help when she is having a bad day as she helped you when you had a bad day.

Leave it at that. You have put her on notice. I'm not saying this will be easy, it may be one of the harder things you have gone through with a neighbor (and you've already leaped some serious hurdles!) But, it will make her think and she won't do it in front of your child again or anyone else who can see her. She will continue to beat her children and it will scar her children for the rest of their lives. It will change who they are as people and as parents themselves. They will probably go on to hit others as well. Hitting comes from a legacy of hitting.

My family beat me severely and always told me I was lucky that it wasn't their parents doing it with a belt. It was always violent and out of control. We now know with science that parents who hit cause damage they can't even begin to understand in the name of "discipline." Children go on to experience lives of drug abuse, violence, hurting themselves, abusive relationships, weight issues and overall unhealthy lifestyles and choices.

We have the opportunity to change our legacy of hitters and spankers. There are so many other ways to discipline that actually teach a lesson instead of making the child fear the parent, which results in hate and lack of communication for the rest of their lives. many adults I talk to will say, "but it didn't hurt me permanently." They are almost always alcoholics, impulse spenders, screamers, binge eaters, emotionally disturbed adults but have no idea that their current behavior is a result of that initial parenting they had. This may put a small wedge between you temporarily, but you may save her children a smidgen of pain.

This won't be easy and nobody wants to hurt their neighbors feelings, but your responsibility is your own daughter who has experienced violence in the past year that no child should ever experience. She doesn’t need her mind and emotions cluttered with more violence in her life right now. By telling her that you are worried about her you are being honest and telling her how you feel. By telling her that your daughter was scared it tells her that it is about your child and guilts her into thinking about her behavior and how it affects others. You are speaking from "I" statements about how you feel. It is honest and she will see that you are just trying to protect your own children from anymore fear of life.

Good luck, Kelly
Kelly, as always, we're all so lucky to have you around! :hug:
 
Tammy

Over UK here, lots of people worry about mortgages because lots of people had been laid off.

Share market go down down down

lots of house on sale cannot sold it

bank bankrupted

I called it dark day nowaday.

Very stressful here now

Scottishwee35
It's the same over here Deborah. Very scary.

Houses take at least 2 years to sell, some 3. It took Tyler's stepmom's previous house 3 years to sell. If I'd seen it before I bought my current house, I would have bought it. It's very cute, in a good area, same size, and sold for only 1/2 the price of mine (which was very low priced too).

There's a very cute house that I've fallen in love with just under a mile away from my house, it's been for sale for 2 years and they have an open house every Sunday. I really want to look at the inside and see if it's been re-done as much as the outside. The house has all new siding and windows and doors, new roof, new privacy fence all around the back yard. Of course I couldn't buy it because my own house won't sell since nobody's able to sell right now, but I just want to take a peek. ;)
 
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